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Yes, read up thread - I know. :) Was just trying to show why some people don't like it (ie "it's not what I learned at school".)
 
Actually I am extremely Conservative, but considered Liberal by Americans.

I want to comment about a few things.

I had been to a very rural school with few Black People. At the time I thought nothing of it because Blacks are a percentage of the U.S.A. population and thus would be fewer blacks in a town where there are fewer people altogether. I also considered that because cities have larger populations, there obviously would be a larger amount of Blacks as well. The Black students (could count them on both hands) NEVER got in trouble either at school or with law enforcement, while many, many White students did both. I also found the Black students to be very well behaved and were much better friends than any White friend I had. (Indeed. The Black ones are still my friends while my White former friends turned into enemies years ago.)

I was taught in school that Abe Lincoln was "Honest Abe", and that Slavery no longer exists, and that Blacks are 110% equal and racism magically went away the moment Star Trek, Julia, Room 221, Mary Tyler Moore, Fat Albert, The Cosby Show / Roseanne, Captain Planet's Kwame, Cosby (not the same one), Oprah, Numerous Norman Lear programmes, and Fox's Juan Williams and Harris Faulkner appeared on television.

Also, I believe that U.S.A. does not know anything about Sports. Many do not like fitness, and think Outies are "not normal" when they actually are common, if you exercise. Also you cannot have sports without politics. You are told to wear a tucked-in uniform for ANY sport, training for sport, and at times people don't like people not wearing shirts while swimming. These issues do not appear to be issues in other nations, unless U.S.A. has sponsored (and thus control) those sports.

But they also put even more politics into sports. These sports require in rural areas public prayer in public, and in every location the salute to the flag and the reciting Star Spangled Death Threat. If I was there when Colin kneels, or when other athletes kneel, I will kneel with them. I am very disappointed that The Dallas Cowboys and NBC 5 published a ridiculous picture basically saying "Look at the Loyal Patriots!"

Racism never went away. If it did, DRMLKJR would have lived much longer. Racism has disguised itself into many code words, used both by Hillary (in the past) and by Donald (today). Code words are very difficult to prove, and so is the excessive force. I have watched the news (since stopped, including Harris though I will miss her) because of half the time "Black Man did this." "Black Man didn't do that." "Black Man should have done this." "We are equal. Equal I say." "It is not enough to obey the Law Enforcement. You must be loyal to Law Enforcement."

At one time I was looking to buy a house. (I have since found it.) But there is a website City Data which I learned that The Real Estate And Mortgage is VERY racist, and they also frown on people in Working Class as well. The people on City Data maintain that minimum wage jobs are "not jobs" and "we don't want you around us if you work minimum wage or even blue collar", people looking down on "apartment kids" and plenty of people race baiting with articles that at one time caused me to believe that Blacks have a passion for robbing convenience stores. But now I think about it, it makes absolutely no sense.

After watching Room 221, The Boondocks, Boyz In Tha Hood (or whatever they spell it), and Straight Outta Compton, various Viral Videos (including a video where an Officer is dropping a weapon from his pocket to the ground.) and realizing that The 1990s on TV and Music is Whitewashed as soon as The Clintons became president(s). And I learned Hillary's inspiration seems to be Margaret Sanger, a White Supremacist that wants to abort (especially Black) children, and before you know it, the Black Leadership (similar to Native American Leadership, except Native American Leadership is much more organized.) is also WhiteWashed. (such as Wisconsin Sheriff David Clarke)

I have also found it very strange that any nation that U.S.A. has invaded, diseases appear afterwards. The claim that Blacks were experimented on and injected with Syphilis is believable. I believe Smallpox, Polio, Sickle Cell, Malaria, HIV, AIDS, Ebola, Zika, are deliberate attempts to destroy or at least damage those from Africa and India and Bikini Atoll. I am biased and I don't care, and the reason why I am biased is because one of my friends has Sickle Cell, a defect that produces red blood cells shaped like knives and swords instead of buttons, and risks organ damage from the sharp and pointy objects floating inside. The patients require constant treatment and hydration, and take longer to recover if they get sock with the flu. There are cures for Sickle Cell, but I am sure they are very expensive. I will not rest until I have enough saved and then I will surprise him when I Pey for the cure for him. If you ever meet him and look at him you can't tell he has sickle cell. He is a body builder. Similar to Simeon Panda only not quite that big. So I just can't understand how somebody who looks extremely healthy have a high risk for disease. And that is because according to White Supremacists, Blacks are Lab Rats.

The reason why my being Conservative has nothing to do with U.S.A. politics, and the reason why some consider me Liberal (even Democrats!) is because of my bias in favor of Blacks when both I have noticed that Democrats are extremely racist. I have noticed that those who vote Democrat use the N Word all the time, some Democrats pretend to speak on behalf of Blacks but only because it benefits their reputation as an activist, and Democrats have kept Blacks oppressed while any other minority is not, The Clintons have Locked Blacks And Threw Away The Key, and you would think racism is isolated in "The South" but it is extremely common in The North! Perhaps it is a coincidence but it seems that many of these occur in Democrat cities. or "Blue States". ... Blue States, Blue Lives Matter? That might not be a coincidence.

I also very much support China & Japan fighting over Africa, because I believe in the saying "The East Builds The World With Their Bare Hands But The West Rips The World Apart With Weapons." despite that I am supposed to believe that China, Japan, Russia, and Germany (although not part of The East) are "evil". I read about China building non-break-of-gauge double track rail and expressways and hospitals instead of Abortion Circumcision Clinics, on the contrary The East is actually studying the actual cause of disease. Two solutions to fight Various Mosquito Virus Of The Week: Stay Inside More Often, Especially At Night, And Avoid The West. They are suspicious with their "humanitarian efforts".
 
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Honestly, reading this thread is something of an eye-opener... I don't know most of these stereotypes people are talking about. That said, I'm aware they exist, and that anyone can be guilty of applying them, even without realising it. I think it's called implicit stereotyping, or unconscious bias. What matters is that, when we're called on them, we acknowledge them and apologise for causing offence, I think. Doesn't matter that it wasn't intentional, it just matters that you're now aware of it and will work to avoid it in future.

And actually, racism can be accidental. The term "boy" or "boyo" in Wales (and other areas) is a term of endearment, but in the States, if you use "boy" to a young black male, you're making a link with that individual and child slaves of years gone by. If a Welsh person happens to say that to a black American male, the American is still within their rights to be offended, but the Welsh person likely didn't know of the meaning of the term, hence accidental racism.

(EDIT: And yes, I'm aware there's an inherent stereotype of Welsh people using the term "boyo" in the above. Apologies if I have caused offence.)

I am glad it is an Eye Opener.

But also I am unfamiliar with people connecting "Boy" with "Slave".
On the contrary, I have seen some prosecutors treat White Adults as children and Black Children as adults.
 
I want to say one more thing please and thank you.

"The News" also likes to say that Law Enforcement is afraid for their lives, and is afraid of the body of Black Men, considering them to be wild and 300 pound gorillas.

However, It is Black Men who live in fear. I run into Black Men that I don't know all the time. For example while shopping, or out in the parking lot. They look at me as if I Caught Them Slipping. and then I worry if somebody is staring at me like that, will they break in to my car? But I really doubt that. Nothing happened when I left my car to go inside. When I returned, everything was fine. I think he was afraid that I would break into his car.

In this video I think the Black Civilian is the one who is afraid. The Officer feels threatened, but not afraid. After all, The officers are much more likely to have weapons. And all the civilian is doing wrong is walking in the middle of the street?!

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I do not always agree with the commentator, but he does speak clearly and effectively.

Another example is "Black Truth", an anonymous man who has several commentary channels. In case anybody is interested about various Black History and also Current Events.
 
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I stand Corrected. "Boy" apparently is a racist Blackphobic Anti-Black term as well. White Racists use it because they don't know or care about the name of Black Children or that they don't even deserve a name.
 
Never heard that line before so for me it wasn't obvious.

Yes, it was obvious, because my complete post reads like this:

As Nick Kroll (in-character as Fabrice Fabrice) once put it:

"Yeah, black people love fried chicken. Know who else loves fried chicken? Everybody!"

And the meaning of the joke should have been obvious. I could only guess why it wasn't to you.

So....where's the beef? I didn't say that my experience was the same as everyone elses which is what he was trying to prescribe to me.


1.) He was trying to twist my words into something they were not.
2.) When I calmly explain myself, he keeps repeating the lie.

Again, that's not how controversy works. It's not up to any one person what is controversial and what isn't. I concede, though, it may have just been a poor choice of word, maybe you meant you don't understand why it is controversial. But then, it has been explained to you, and you called it a lie.

I'm not going to put a disclaimer on everything I say just because a few posters always think the worse about contradictory viewpoints.

You do realize, we can only tell what you think by what you share.

Thanks for proving one of my points that it really is a choice to be offended. But otherwise...

I "choose" not to be offended, because I weighed it against the priviliges I as a heterosexual white male German against those offenses, and I also weighed in what the German People have actually done in the past (and the present, looking at Merkel's policies towards Greece, Merkel's recent deals with African dictators to stop refugees from coming to Europe, etc.) to deserve that reputation.

You weren't there so you are not responsible for every attrocity committed by germans. There is nothing for you to "get off of." Show me a german soldier from Hitlers military and I'll join you in condemning him.Otherwise, it's just another form of white guilt.

Well, I'm not personally responsible. But then, nobody has called me personally Kraut (or worse), either. So my "white guilt" is actually the acknowledgement that I've been privileged to be born a white male heterosexual in one of the richest nations on the planet, and I do benefit from that constantly.

Edit: Just reread that and no, not everybody is racist and sexist. Prejudice maybe, but not racist. I merely suggested that racism is seen in all groups which is true. But everybody is born racist? Not a chance. That's a learned behavior based on experience.

No, not everybody is born racist, that's not what I said. I specifically said that growing up in a racist society, there's no way you can't be racist. And the choice one makes it either to ignore it, embrace it, or try to acknowledge and work against it. Self-awareness is the first step to improvement.

Sorry dude, but farting is not even in the same league as racism. One is accidental behavior while the other is not. You really damaged ypur credibility with that statement.

:wtf: Let's run through that again, shall we?!

Right, imagine you are with a group of people at the dinner table. And then you let out a fart, a loud one, everybody notices, and everybody knows it was you. You do apologize, right?!

So, because farting is not even in the same league as racism, if you say something, and either you yourself notice, or somebody else points out to you that what you said was racist, even if you didn't mean it to be, do you then not also apologize for it. It is really the least you can do.

Haven't had the chance to watch that one yet but Ive already stated that not all blacks are alike.

So, you didn't understand my example?! Would it help you if I told it like this: On this TV show based on a property already made into a TV show decades ago, they have two black characters, father and daughter, and in that old version there was only one black actor. The newer show had actors from the old show in new roles, so I thought it would fit really good for the one black actor from the old show to play a relative of the two already related black characters, because they're all black. Of course, that was racist, but it wasn't intentional. Do you get it now?!

What's interesting is in the last few of your posts you are saying many of the same things I have already posted yet you are getting likes from the same people who were griping when they were written by me. Which only proves that whole charade was nothing more than a personal vendetta. Hence the reason for ignore.

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I think you are misreading my posts.
 
Actually I am extremely Conservative, but considered Liberal by Americans.

I want to comment about a few things.

I had been to a very rural school with few Black People. At the time I thought nothing of it because Blacks are a percentage of the U.S.A. population and thus would be fewer blacks in a town where there are fewer people altogether. I also considered that because cities have larger populations, there obviously would be a larger amount of Blacks as well. The Black students (could count them on both hands) NEVER got in trouble either at school or with law enforcement, while many, many White students did both. I also found the Black students to be very well behaved and were much better friends than any White friend I had. (Indeed. The Black ones are still my friends while my White former friends turned into enemies years ago.)

I was taught in school that Abe Lincoln was "Honest Abe", and that Slavery no longer exists, and that Blacks are 110% equal and racism magically went away the moment Star Trek, Julia, Room 221, Mary Tyler Moore, Fat Albert, The Cosby Show / Roseanne, Captain Planet's Kwame, Cosby (not the same one), Oprah, Numerous Norman Lear programmes, and Fox's Juan Williams and Harris Faulkner appeared on television.

Also, I believe that U.S.A. does not know anything about Sports. Many do not like fitness, and think Outies are "not normal" when they actually are common, if you exercise. Also you cannot have sports without politics. You are told to wear a tucked-in uniform for ANY sport, training for sport, and at times people don't like people not wearing shirts while swimming. These issues do not appear to be issues in other nations, unless U.S.A. has sponsored (and thus control) those sports.

But they also put even more politics into sports. These sports require in rural areas public prayer in public, and in every location the salute to the flag and the reciting Star Spangled Death Threat. If I was there when Colin kneels, or when other athletes kneel, I will kneel with them. I am very disappointed that The Dallas Cowboys and NBC 5 published a ridiculous picture basically saying "Look at the Loyal Patriots!"

Racism never went away. If it did, DRMLKJR would have lived much longer. Racism has disguised itself into many code words, used both by Hillary (in the past) and by Donald (today). Code words are very difficult to prove, and so is the excessive force. I have watched the news (since stopped, including Harris though I will miss her) because of half the time "Black Man did this." "Black Man didn't do that." "Black Man should have done this." "We are equal. Equal I say." "It is not enough to obey the Law Enforcement. You must be loyal to Law Enforcement."

At one time I was looking to buy a house. (I have since found it.) But there is a website City Data which I learned that The Real Estate And Mortgage is VERY racist, and they also frown on people in Working Class as well. The people on City Data maintain that minimum wage jobs are "not jobs" and "we don't want you around us if you work minimum wage or even blue collar", people looking down on "apartment kids" and plenty of people race baiting with articles that at one time caused me to believe that Blacks have a passion for robbing convenience stores. But now I think about it, it makes absolutely no sense.

After watching Room 221, The Boondocks, Boyz In Tha Hood (or whatever they spell it), and Straight Outta Compton, various Viral Videos (including a video where an Officer is dropping a weapon from his pocket to the ground.) and realizing that The 1990s on TV and Music is Whitewashed as soon as The Clintons became president(s). And I learned Hillary's inspiration seems to be Margaret Sanger, a White Supremacist that wants to abort (especially Black) children, and before you know it, the Black Leadership (similar to Native American Leadership, except Native American Leadership is much more organized.) is also WhiteWashed. (such as Wisconsin Sheriff David Clarke)

I have also found it very strange that any nation that U.S.A. has invaded, diseases appear afterwards. The claim that Blacks were experimented on and injected with Syphilis is believable. I believe Smallpox, Polio, Sickle Cell, Malaria, HIV, AIDS, Ebola, Zika, are deliberate attempts to destroy or at least damage those from Africa and India and Bikini Atoll. I am biased and I don't care, and the reason why I am biased is because one of my friends has Sickle Cell, a defect that produces red blood cells shaped like knives and swords instead of buttons, and risks organ damage from the sharp and pointy objects floating inside. The patients require constant treatment and hydration, and take longer to recover if they get sock with the flu. There are cures for Sickle Cell, but I am sure they are very expensive. I will not rest until I have enough saved and then I will surprise him when I Pey for the cure for him. If you ever meet him and look at him you can't tell he has sickle cell. He is a body builder. Similar to Simeon Panda only not quite that big. So I just can't understand how somebody who looks extremely healthy have a high risk for disease. And that is because according to White Supremacists, Blacks are Lab Rats.

The reason why my being Conservative has nothing to do with U.S.A. politics, and the reason why some consider me Liberal (even Democrats!) is because of my bias in favor of Blacks when both I have noticed that Democrats are extremely racist. I have noticed that those who vote Democrat use the N Word all the time, some Democrats pretend to speak on behalf of Blacks but only because it benefits their reputation as an activist, and Democrats have kept Blacks oppressed while any other minority is not, The Clintons have Locked Blacks And Threw Away The Key, and you would think racism is isolated in "The South" but it is extremely common in The North! Perhaps it is a coincidence but it seems that many of these occur in Democrat cities. or "Blue States". ... Blue States, Blue Lives Matter? That might not be a coincidence.

I also very much support China & Japan fighting over Africa, because I believe in the saying "The East Builds The World With Their Bare Hands But The West Rips The World Apart With Weapons." despite that I am supposed to believe that China, Japan, Russia, and Germany (although not part of The East) are "evil". I read about China building non-break-of-gauge double track rail and expressways and hospitals instead of Abortion Circumcision Clinics, on the contrary The East is actually studying the actual cause of disease. Two solutions to fight Various Mosquito Virus Of The Week: Stay Inside More Often, Especially At Night, And Avoid The West. They are suspicious with their "humanitarian efforts".
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You're conflating two different terrible and murderous experiments conducted by the United States government.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment between 1932-72 never injected anyone with syphilis, but it did leave hundreds of black men who were already infected with it untreated even as penicillin became a widely accepted treatment for the disease by 1947. It continued to lie to these men and not tell them they had syphilis until it was finally exposed to the public at large by the Washington Star and New York Times in 1972, but by then 128 of the men had died, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis.

The second one, where they did deliberately infect men and women with syphilis and other STDs, was the Guatemalan Syphilis Experiments during the Truman Administration with the cooperation of the Guatemalan government under President Juan José Arévalo, which resulted in the deaths of 83 Guatemalan citizens.

As far as your question goes, it was considered "okay" insofar as black people were still (and indeed are still to this day in many respects) considered second class citizens and thus the "First Do No Harm" ethical guideline all doctors are supposed to live by was superseded by racism. They would have never considered medical experimentation of this sort conducted on white people ethical. Even the doctor who was the chief whistleblower in 1972 didn't do so because he considered lying to 600 black men about their medical condition and denying them treatment (resulting in deaths and the spread of the infection to loved ones) ethically wrong, he was just bothered that the experiment was being conducted poorly. Likewise, they made similar excuses about "the greater good" in Guatemala, which of course never ensnares white (non-Jewish) people (at least, not in the US. Japan and the Nazis and numerous other nations and regimes to this day did their own horrific human experiments, of course).


Thank you.. I thought I might have mixed stuff up but I was speaking of what I remember reading a few years back so yeah I mixed the details up. But it's so horrific to think that in a so called civilized nation things like this had happened and were viewed as mostly OK. That doctor sounds like a real nice chappy indeed. "not"
 
I was trying to compare Conservative with Liberal in U.S.A. politics, from

At this point what we're seeing is a pretty typical conservative argument that people who get offended are the real problem... even though ichab's football thread was a pretty clear case of somebody getting offended by something that didn't hurt or affect him at all.

Conservative logic: people getting offended by those who want to oppress or kill them--bad; people getting offended by political expressions that are, at most, mild annoyances--good.

and had to reread it.

because I discover that many politicians in USA, regardless of "Conservative" or "Liberal" end up being one and the same.
 
Yeah, saw that. Didn't even know where to begin, but I guess the casual suggestion that Clinton was a racist eugenics proponent would be a good start to ask for some evidence for an accusation of such ... let's call it wildness.

You don't have to, but I hope she isn't. Hillary probably meant that she supports women. or something.
 
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it was considered "okay" insofar as black people were still (and indeed are still to this day in many respects) considered second class citizens and thus the "First Do No Harm" ethical guideline all doctors are supposed to live by was superseded by racism

It isn't just second class citizens. They have been considered a fraction of human, with "inferior" DNA.
 
I was trying to compare Conservative with Liberal in U.S.A. politics, from



and had to reread it.

because I discover that many politicians in USA, regardless of "Conservative" or "Liberal" end up being one and the same.

That may have been true in the past, but the ideological range encompassed by each of our major political parties doesn't have much overlap at this point.
 
I have also found it very strange that any nation that U.S.A. has invaded, diseases appear afterwards. The claim that Blacks were experimented on and injected with Syphilis is believable. I believe Smallpox, Polio, Sickle Cell, Malaria, HIV, AIDS, Ebola, Zika, are deliberate attempts to destroy or at least damage those from Africa and India and Bikini Atoll.

So you believe paranoid conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence to support them. Good to know.
The reptilian alien overlords will be 'round to your house in a few hours to collect your brain for experimentation. Please remain calm and stationary.
 
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