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Presenting these relevant thoughts from this tweet stream, cleaned up for easier reading on a forum. (Note: I didn't write this but consider it spot-on.)

The other day, I heard an NPR podcast about politics where a white woman broke down in tears of joy and relief listening to Trump. She said she was crying because Trump was speaking out against political correctness - something she's been angry about for decades. I was stupefied to hear an adult woman crying tears of joy for an avowed misogynist... but she's a white woman, in post civil rights America.

What I understood, more deeply, is the reality of what it means to be a racist in the US after the civil war... and the civil rights movement. The reality is that white-male supremacy was the literal law of the land for centuries. It's the foundational core of the U.S. project.

The result is that we have generations of white people who were socialized to believe that what we now call "racism" is just "the way it is." These people, and their parents, grandparents before them, were taught by all of the nation's major institutions that whites are superior. Further: they inherited a culture that openly and proudly tortured & denigrated blacks for centuries. The word "openly" is important here. For centuries, the political and economic leadership of the U.S. was openly, explicitly and officially white-male supremacist, and while they were disadvantaged by certain aspects of white-male supremacy, white women also participated in the oppression of non-whites.

Except they weren't taught that slavery, lynching, Jim Crow or discrimination were "oppression". The nation framed these things as moral. The end of the Civil War highlighted the contrast between the nation's superficial racial liberalism and its ongoing white supremacy. The southern states that supported slavery were told - by the same nation that legalized slavery - their "way of life" was now "immoral". Meanwhile, the same nation that now claimed to be racially liberal by "ending" slavery actually perpetuated it through prisons. So you have this deeply hypocritical situation, in which the racist values of the nation were superficially disavowed but maintained in fact.

As all of this unfolds, white racial attitudes liberalize somewhat, but not drastically. And the power structure remains white supremacist. Social norms have shifted such that being "openly" racist is increasingly stigmatized -- but the nation remains systematically racist.

So, let's return to the white female Trump supporter who broke out in tears listening to him rage against "political correctness". She's emotionally reacting to a sense of betrayal by her country... a country that officially and proudly oppressed non-whites for centuries. She's reacting to the hypocrisy of white supremacist Democrats and liberal elites who blame poor and working class whites for racism. While she probably couldn't articulate it in these terms, she's crying because deep down she knows Trump really does represent this country. She's tired of hearing politicians pretend to not be the racists that they actually are. She's relieved to hear someone "tell it like it is."

Political correctness is the trope that allows white elites (liberal and conservative) to pretend to not oppress the people they oppress. While the woman surely had no critique of oppression, she knows intuitively that the language of political correctness doesn't match reality. The political reality Trump has so brazenly and successfully tapped into is that this country 1) is racist and 2) belongs to white people. Not to mention the associated truths -- that the nation is also fundamentally sexist and that it especially belongs to white men.

In any case, millions of white people are crying and raging because their country lied about itself when it pretended to liberalize. They feel betrayed by a nation that built its economy and culture on anti-black white supremacy but then progressively said "Nevermind." The reality is, you can't build a nation on white-supremacist ideology & violence for centuries, then turn around and say "Well, actually..."

This contrast between political correctness and political reality will continue to enrage - not only racists, but also victims of racism.


Times change, just because something was "acceptable" X years ago doesn't mean it's acceptable today. And yes you can turn around and say "Well Actually.. sure the change won't occur overnight and can take decades to fully come through but aren't we already talking generations since some of these changes came through. In part doesn't it come down to those who hold such beliefs teaching their kids those beliefs who in turn each their kids and the cycle continues becuase they refuse to accept change.

But wasn't the USA in part found on

that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.
 
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/emory-poc-only-social-events/
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Sorry I didn't know,.. you really research all aspects of this stuff,..
 
Sorry I didn't know,.. you really research all aspects of this stuff,..
Generally, feminists, and people who are somewhat familiar with Gamergate, know about Milo. If you know nothing else about him, know that he also works for Breitbart. When you think Alt-Right, Leslie Jones being threatened with death until she left Twitter, and Trump supporter, think Milo.
 
Vice News recently did a segment on him.
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He has some odd beliefs.
 
We moved 22 times in the first 15 years of my life - Connecticut and Kansas each once, and then rotating around Illinois, South Carolina, and Missouri for the rest - and I guess we never stayed in the same place long enough for me to notice that the line I was being sold by television shows about racism being a thing of the past was not reality. But I did have classmates of other races, and I just don't really ever remember it being an issue. Looking back, it might be because most of the schools that I went to were so overwhelmingly white that if there were problems, the minorities didn't feel like they could dare complain. Not entirely, though - the high school I finished my last three years at was actually majority black, and we all seemed to get along fine. Most of the Facebook friends that I have today from that school are black.

I guess I was out of touch. I grew up believing that humanity was one big family - or if not, well on it's way to becoming one. I mean, the wall came down, the Evil Empire fell, and TNG even showed we had made peace with *the Klingons*, after all - so what could the measure of the difference between me and a human with different skin coloring possibly mean? And if we needed to worry about anyone truly different from us, it was going to be something like the aliens from Alien.

My adult understanding of these things has been one big disappointment after another, that's for sure.
I know that the expression "drink the Kool-Aid" came from the Jonestown incident. But Kool-Aid as a drink somehow became associated with black culture. Again, I don't know why. I thought all kids drank it (at least they did back in the 90's when I was a kid).
From observing the drink choices of my black friends, it really does seem like there's either a cultural difference or maybe an actual genetic difference in perception of flavors that means that they seem to like to choose "grape" or orange beverages. Maybe it's something as simple as it being a cheap choice for a flavored beverage going back to when their families were poor, that has just continued on from there out of habit.

Regarding Kool-Aid specifically, though, I know one connection that hasn't been mentioned: young black girls sometimes use Kool-Aid to color their hair. My daughter has done it, too - learned how from some black friends. They mix Kool-Aid of the color they want in a pot of water and vinegar, bring it to boil, and then use it for hair coloring. (At least I think that's all there is to it - I haven't actually been party to their hair coloring aside from buying stuff for them. ;) ) It's why black people sometimes call someone with an exotic hair color "Kool-Aid" - and I could potentially see it being used as a slur by someone who regards them as lower class (or of an "inferior" race?) for doing that, too, although I've never personally witnessed that. My daughter had a gay, black stylist call her "Kool-Aid" and act snooty about it while he was styling her hair, once - but I think that may have just been his general personality. :D
 
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From observing the drink choices of my black friends, it really does seem like there's either a cultural difference or maybe an actual genetic difference in perception of flavors that means that they seem to like to choose "grape" or orange beverages. Maybe it's something as simple as it being a cheap choice for a flavored beverage going back to when their families were poor, that has just continued on from there out of habit.
I can't believe this is a real thing you actually wrote. There is so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin.
 
I can't believe this is a real thing you actually wrote. There is so much wrong here I don't even know where to begin.
Okay...how? If it's the implication that a preference for fruity drinks might be genetic, please don't be silly - there are plenty of strange pairings of attributes tied to the same chromosome pairs. A particular attribute for taste buds might be on the same set for skin pigment. There's a difference between something being racist and something being *racial*. Or do you believe that Tay-Sachs is racist, too? :P
 
It occurred to me after I wrote that last post that what you may have taken issue with, in part, is the phrase "observing the drink choices of my black friends", which I wrote to express an idea efficiently, but that I can now also see might come off as creepy. I don't mean anything weird like that I've been wearing a white lab coat and recording their drink choices on a clipboard. It's just that when you go out to eat with coworkers and friends, and there's a couple of people in each group who are ordering the Orange Crush or Grape Nehi or similar while everyone else is generally getting sweet tea, after a little while it starts to click that it's always your black friends doing that and that that might mean something. Nothing bad. Just something.
 
Television has always said that "Everybody Is Equal. Nobody Is Racist." since the 1990s. I just realized "That 70s Show" (a 1990s programme) is the perfect example of whitewashed television. Shows from Bill Cosby, Julia, Mary Tyler Moore, The Rookies, Room 221, And any show that is from Norman Lear, have black casts or black co-stars. And some of them openly discussed the REAL Black History. With the exception of COSBY (with Madeline Kahn), the 1990s programmes were the exact opposite of the 1970s. If "That 70s Show" was supposed to be accurate, then it would have funk jazz disco music (I like to call it "Black Music") and there would be some black characters. But it was Electric Guitar Rock Music (which I like to call "White Music") All you hear today is some guitar, acoustic ... electric ... or ukulele. There was some "foreigner" character (Sorry, I don't remember every detail of "That 70s Show From The 90s" and I do not care to.) who was comic relief. Also, It seems that the setting of "That 70s Show From The 90s" was Wisconsin. I believe this was deliberate propaganda because they just so happened to pick the most racist state in the U.S.A.

Actually, that is another talking point I want to make. Racist is usually referred to against Blacks. But with Homophobic, And Anti-Semitimns. There really should be a term Blackphobic and Anti-Black. Because the term Racist has no meaning.

Milo... Snuffalupagus, as nicknamed by Professor Black Truth, is a person I watched a video about TrigglyPuff. TrigglyPuff is somebody who is a guest lecturer even though she hadn't finished University. But I am actually taking the side of TrigglyPuff. I agree with TrigglyPuff. Because she said "Stop Treating Us Like A Child!" Which is VERY accurate because every website I encounter literally looks like a preschool and they are bossing around with the "Trending" and "Who To Follow" and "WAIT! BEFORE YOU GO, SUBSCRIBE TO OUR SPAM!" that stalks the mouse arrow (I use CTRL + W as a result) and many times this pop up appears before you even read (or try to read) their ugly website. Which is no longer web pages but a clump of articles with endless scrolling. Or customer service not servicing customers. Etc.

Milo was speaking at this very loud audience. Milo is much more famous than TrigglyPuff, Milo is much more tolerated, and Milo swarms college campus after college campus masqurading as a guest lecturer nationwide, and Milo says that Milo is a conservative. In this Celebrity Gossip nation, everybody of course idolizes Milo, because they are always idolizing something.

There are some that are wanting a boycott of Twitter for Milo's "unfair" (actually well deserved) ban from Twitter.

I do not like Milo. I am not going to wosrhip Milo and I do not care how much hate I get for speaking up about Milo.

Also, I hope Milo never becomes president.

Earlier in this very long essay I wrote that television says "Everybody Is Equal. Nobody Is Racist." also applies to school, as you have mentioned. I could count every Black student from Pre-K to 12 with both hands. Every one of them is well behaved. The population of suspended students were White. I always assumed that since Blacks in U.S.A. are a percentage of the population, that is why there are so many Blacks in urban areas because Urban Areas have larger populations thus more likely to have Blacks, with the possibility of some being in trouble. The curriculum itself said made all the problems Blacks face sound like a thing of the past and that the muder of DRMLKJR had nothing to do with skin colour.

There was only one discussion in class about this. We talked about how Blacks face poverty (but never discussed why) and those in such neighborhoods might attack white men with blonde hair. And then we turned towards the white man with dyed blonde hair in the classroom.

I don't think any of us were Anti-Black, but I believe that myself and my classmates were very extremely ignorant.

I had believed the illusion of Barrack Obama until Travon Martin. And when I looked at the comments of "Social Media", everybody wrote Travyon off as a thug, A DEAD GUY THAT NOBODY EVER MET!

After reading and watching all of these excessive force videos, and even killings of "Thugs", plus combined watching 70s Shows Actually From The 70s, and The Boondocks, Boyz In Tha Hood / Straight Outta Compton, And Roland Martin, Professor Black Truth, and sometimes The Advise Show, (modern versions of Fat Albert Jackson Robertson) I am extremely Pro-Black.

Something else I would like to comment about:

Colin Kap Per Nick is a brave man to take a stand by sitting (just like Rosa Parks) of something that shouldn't even belong in Sport. (U.S.A. doesn't know anything about Sport anyways.) And now many others are Sitting as well. I Sit with them.

Now if Blacks unite and not only Bank Black, Charter School, Charter University, but also form their own sports teams where they can wear, practice, play, compete, and without politics and entertainment, then that would also be significant progress.

Also I applaud "Birth Of A Nation", originally pre-civil-rights propaganda, which the historical record has now been accurately corrected, but has many people trying to censor it. I would go on and on about the origins of Hollywood, war propaganda, government owned, from United Productions Of America, ... but I believe I have repeated myself accidentally.
 
There was some "foreigner" character (Sorry, I don't remember every detail of "That 70s Show From The 90s" and I do not care to.) who was comic relief.
The show was a comedy. Everyone on it was comic relief. Also, the show aired from 1998 to 2006. You can't really lump it as a "90's show".
 
My, this thread has traveled so far from Coco Puff's "Here's this controversial thing I saw on my Facebook feed that I'm pretending to know nothing about", to think's reposting of a racist blogger's image suggesting white people are the true victims of discrimination, to USS Triumphant's "Black people are genetically predisposed to like grape-flavored Kool-Aid", and now to whatever the hell the Battlestar Galactica Hybrid and aptly named In_Correct is bizarrely ranting about.

In_Correct
, please try to focus and post less nonsense from now on. I have literally never heard a politician use the term BlackHispanic as a single compound word, much less "almost always" to describe black people. Wisconsin, while having its share of racism issues, is not the "most racist state in the US". The USA doesn't even know anything about sport? Huh? The dominance of disco music in the late-70s does not mean guitar rock ceased being hugely popular at the same time. There were more than a handful of black students in K-12, and I have no idea what you're even talking about there, but I think you're trying to tie it into your weird Government Hollywood Industrial Complex conspiracy and Obama's losing his powers of illusion after Trayvon Martin??? I can't even any more. It's just a gigantic flustercuck of half-formed and inaccurate ideas and conspiracies.

Anyway, we're done here. This thread is a mess and I'm genetically predisposed to go eat some pizza.
 
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