^ They never went into actual detail about the process. It could be that cogenitors are actually part of the sexual act.
The Cogenitor
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AFAIAC, He had already hit rock bottom, in Dear Doctor. This only confirmed his assholishness to me.
Apparently they only need them to conceive children.
I too used to like this episode, until I rewatched it and...no. I honestly think the hype it got had a lot to do with how entirely lacking the season as a whole was.
But like KTR said in his review, Archer is by far the weakest link in all this. As mentioned, how was Trips decision here any worse than Archer's liberation of the Sullivan? Or telling Phlox to withhold a cure for a species that is going extinct? I was never one that had the passionate hate on for Archer, but that self righteous moralizing without any self reflection kills it for me.
Even one line of "I probably would've done the same thing" or "I've set a poor example" would've helped. But instead it comes off as Trip was wrong because this was the rare First Contact that didn't end in a fire fight or Archer getting his ass beaten.
But like KTR said in his review, Archer is by far the weakest link in all this. As mentioned, how was Trips decision here any worse than Archer's liberation of the Sullivan? Or telling Phlox to withhold a cure for a species that is going extinct? I was never one that had the passionate hate on for Archer, but that self righteous moralizing without any self reflection kills it for me.
Even one line of "I probably would've done the same thing" or "I've set a poor example" would've helped. But instead it comes off as Trip was wrong because this was the rare First Contact that didn't end in a fire fight or Archer getting his ass beaten.
Doesn't Archer explicitly tell Trip that if Trip was doing what he thought Archer would have done then he has set a poor example?
I may be misremembering, I've only seen the episode the one time, but I have to say it concerns me that we're given such a narrow view into a culture yet there are people willing to jump to not only broad assumptions about the culture but how we should be interacting with it.
I may be misremembering, I've only seen the episode the one time, but I have to say it concerns me that we're given such a narrow view into a culture yet there are people willing to jump to not only broad assumptions about the culture but how we should be interacting with it.
That's where we can see the cowardliness of the writing staff. They show us a situation absolutely outrageous, comparable in many ways to how women are mistreated in some countries, but somehow we're told to believe that this is normal , that we should maintain normalized relations with such people without saying anything. Revolting!
Except that the first colonists weren't in any position to be outraged about anything, they had their own backyard to clean up first, which they didn't, for centuries.
As members of 22nd century Earth that has cured iself of all its negative 'isms', (wonder how that was done?) then of course we have the moral high ground....
Bingo!
Could you be more explicit?
Sarcasm does not show up on computer screens.
Anyway you don't think 'Space the final frontier.... where no man has gone before' is not Manifest Destiny in space? I think that motto is dreadful.
I think their heart was at the right place though.
If your race depends on rape and slavery to survive, maybe you deserve to go extinct.
There were other ways the cogenitors could've participated in helping the future of their race without them being nameless slaves.
I do wonder what happened with the cogenitor babies. I assume the parents didn't raise them, not with what we saw of them. I also doubt the cogenitors were allowed to raise them, as they were too busy being shuttled from place to place for breeding. I figure they were raised in concentration camp style barricks by impersonal caretakers who taught them to be submissive from birth.
There were other ways the cogenitors could've participated in helping the future of their race without them being nameless slaves.
I do wonder what happened with the cogenitor babies. I assume the parents didn't raise them, not with what we saw of them. I also doubt the cogenitors were allowed to raise them, as they were too busy being shuttled from place to place for breeding. I figure they were raised in concentration camp style barricks by impersonal caretakers who taught them to be submissive from birth.
We have absolutely no idea how the cogenitors lived back on Vissia. For all we know, they were pampered and fawned over. Assuming they are slaves just because of this one episode is sloppy thinking at best.
