Yeah, I read that "open letter" yesterday. Certainly the author has reason to be biased, but the scenario he posits is disturbingly credible. I hope he's wrong about Wonder Woman, of course, but I was already lowering my expectations before this.
Wonder Woman (2017)
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"Great Wonder Woman trailer"? What great trailer? Does he mean this one, whose visual style is absolutely indistinguishable from that of BvS, features Snyder-esqe sped-up fighting, the same smug hero-worship of his Martha Kent ("they don't deserve you"/"you don't owe them anything)", and no hint of a villain or story beyond "Diana leaves her island for a while, and beats up some dudes"?
This Wonder Woman can't even catch direct sunlight on a place called "Paradise Island."
Also, I don't know why that writer took cheap shots at Peter Jackson. Sure, two of the Hobbit movies were crap, but with their worldwide grosses, they absolutely kept the lights on and people employed.
This Wonder Woman can't even catch direct sunlight on a place called "Paradise Island."
Were you one of the people complaining that the Doomsday trailer revealed everything?
^ That sort of totally random and pointless question doesn't merit a reply, so it'll get none from me.
Gadot was inspired casting, and the period setting is an interesting move, but I think anyone who calls that trailer anything other than run-of-the-mill by comic book movie standards is fooling themselves. It's high time we got one of these movies starring a woman, but I doubt anyone would be calling this a great trailer if the same footage were applied to a male pulp hero.
Gadot was inspired casting, and the period setting is an interesting move, but I think anyone who calls that trailer anything other than run-of-the-mill by comic book movie standards is fooling themselves. It's high time we got one of these movies starring a woman, but I doubt anyone would be calling this a great trailer if the same footage were applied to a male pulp hero.
That's okay, it was rhetorical, didn't really need one.
I dunno. If you're approaching the trailers from a critical perspective in terms of how they were made, that's one thing. But the real measure of a trailer, I think, is the reaction it evokes from an audience. If the trailer leaves the audience feeling "meh" about the movie, or even decreases their interest in it (like the second Batman v Superman trailer did for me), then it's failed. If the trailer makes the audience more excited about the movie, then it's succeeded. So how the audience reacts is not some irrelevant thing that you can dismiss as self-delusion. It's the entire goal of the exercise. The Wonder Woman trailerwas widely regarded as one of the most successful trailers to come out of SDCC, if not the most successful. It did the best job of generating interest in the movie. Maybe because people cared more about the appeal of the actors and characters than they did about the color palette or the speed ramping.
I agree, but I'd also say that Hillary Clinton's nomination acceptance speech was one of the most successful speeches to come out of this year's Democratic National Convention, if not the most successful. In other words: context matters. The WW trailer was one of the most high-profile trailer debuts, for one thing, it featured one of the few consensus strengths of BvS, for another, and many DC fans were practically starving for something to look forward to amidst the lousy Suicide Squad buzz - not to mention the decades of anticipation for a WW movie in the first place. Mix all those pre-loaded hopes and feelings with a conventional action trailer, and sure, it's no surprise that Hall H goes wild.
Question is, do the people who genuinely love the trailer embrace it for what's actually on screen, or because it's generic and vague enough to not challenge any of their mental versions of what they hope the movie will be?
Hm? It was certainly the best speech I've heard Secretary Clinton give, at least once she relaxed into it, but I'd say Michelle Obama was the MVP of the prime-time speakers. The president gave a really good speech too, as he usually does. (Although Khizr Khan's unpolished but heartfelt speech probably carried the most impact.)
I'm really not sure I follow the analogy anyway. I'm not talking about Hall H. I wasn't in Hall H. I just know how people on the Internet reacted.
Question is, why is it worth so much effort to deconstruct? Save the reviews for the movie. A trailer is just a commercial. It did its job -- that's enough for me.
Try a handful of salt and a shot of penicillin.
An anonymous letter that was released on the internet... Who would take this serious?
Very true...also, since the guy was let go, hasn't there been a number of changes, which actually bode WELL for WW? Like less Snyder & more Geoff Johns & Patty Jenkins?
Which she keeps in the glove compartment of her Invisible Biplane! (Yeah, I'm not giving up on that concept.)
Maybe they have a transistor radio with batteries that never run out...and a bamboo car...an Invisible Bamboo Car...!
Why assume it's a guy? The employee posted it under the pseudonym "Gracie Law," which was Kim Cattrall's character in Big Trouble in Little China.
Me too. When I saw Suicide Squad the only trailer that got a reaction was the Wonder Woman one. Lots of clapping and cheering. The line about slavery got a huge huge laugh.
Jenkins's words are encouraging (although having to communicate with people 140 characters at a time is ridiculous and I wish Twitter would abandon that limit), but there's always the possibility that WB could insist on reshoots/recuts again.