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Wonder Woman (2017)

Superman is the Hope guy.

Wonder Woman is meant to be the "Spirit of Truth".

Oh and Batman in the Justice lord.

Haha
 
So the words of the actual director of the actual movie are less meaningful than some random anonymous person ranting on the internet... :wtf:

I now some people are quick to believe any old shit on the internet, but c'mon... seriously!? :rolleyes:
I didn't say her words are less meaningful than someone elses, they are just meaningless. The open letter has nothing to do with it.
If she thinks the movie will be good she'll say it's gonna be great.
If she thinks the movie will be mediocre she'll say it's gonna be great.
If she thinks the movie will be bad she'll say it's gonna be great.

She will not voice her true opinions publically a year before release, she will praise and promote the movie no matter what, that's part of her job and that's what makes her words meangless.
 
I didn't say her words are less meaningful than someone elses, they are just meaningless.

So basically anyone can make up absolutely anything, post it on the internet and then:

a) if nobody involved with the production denies it, it's true.
b) if somebody involved with the production denies it they could be lying, so it's true.

So what is the proper response to people slinging shit at your movie?
Whose words are meaningful in your opinion?
Do you not think this is a completely insane situation where random people can spread malicious lies about your work and you can do fuck all about it?
She stood behind her movie with her name and reputation, and you're saying her words are meaningless compared to some random anonymous internet troll?
 
She stood behind her movie with her name and reputation, and you're saying her words are meaningless compared to some random anonymous internet troll?

No, no, no. Takeru's saying her words are as meaningless as those of some random anonymous internet troll.

I don't think that's any more accurate than your interpretation, but, oh well ...
 
So if anyone's interested, Here's an article which basically explains why that "Open Letter" should be taken with a grain of salt. If you're not interested in reading the whole thing (it's actually quite interesting) here's what this guy has to say about the Wonder Woman comments:

And that's the next thing: her claim that Wonder Woman is a mess.

Is it? Who knows. The movie is ten months out; Jenkins et al probably still don't have anything beyond an assembly cut. An assembly cut is that version of a movie you hear about when someone says the first cut was four hours long; when someone tells you that understand they know little about how movie-making works. An assembly cut is basically everything they have shot put together in one big, ungainly mess that has to be chopped down and whittled away at. It's what you start with in the editing room, and it often has little relation to what comes out the other side.

But Devin, you say, you've reported that you've heard movies are a mess very early in the process. That's totally correct! Sometimes movies are a mess very early in the process, and sometimes they never get fixed. Sometimes it's clear that nobody working on a movie shares a vision for it, or that the studio execs see the movie very differently than the filmmaker does or the filmmaker was unable to capture his/her vision on set. Sometimes these situations result in disaster, sometimes they result in classics (remember, Mad Max: Fury Road, the great unmentioned movie in this open letter, was a total fucking wreck the entire production)

I cut the rest of what he said about Wonder Woman because I felt like I was essentially posting the whole article here, and I know that's frowned upon.

Anyways, I put the link above, but in case you missed it, here's a link to the full article again.
 
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That's a good point. I would image a lot of movies probably seem like a mess this early in production.
 
I am pretty sure it will be much more successful than Ghostbusters, and general positive buzz

I would bet you are right. Few films could be as much of a wrongheaded disaster as Ghostbusters. Moreover, Gal Gadot has an advantage by being exposed to the public in Dawn of Justice--she was widely praised for her debut as Wonder Woman, so there should be great interest in the solo film.
 
Judging by every WB DC movie so far, it will be a massive success and the audiences will mostly like it but people on the internet will be convinced it's the worst possible thing that could exist and it will get a 20% RT score.
 
I don't know, I've got a feeling this might be the first film of the DC line up to be a critical darling as well as a box office smash.

I'll stand by that statement until I am (maybe, maybe not) proven wrong come June 2017.
 
I don'the know, a lot of people loved the Suicide Squad trailers, and we've all seen how that turned out...
 
Sure, but the overall reaction to the movie has been a lot worse than the reaction to the trailer.
 
Then vs Now
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Both are gorgeous either way.
 
That's a cool comparison. It's interesting how similar those scenes are.
 
And in just three words, Gal Gadot out-acts Lynda Carter.

That's a cool comparison. It's interesting how similar those scenes are.

Well, it's the iconic first meeting from the comics' origin story -- literally on page one of the very first Wonder Woman story -- so it's the sort of scene you'd expect to be done largely the same way in multiple versions, like Jor-El launching the rocket or Bruce Wayne's parents getting shot. The '70s pilot was actually a surprisingly faithful adaptation of the first two Wonder Woman issues.
 
I didn't realize that came so directly from the comics. I knew Diana found him stranded on the island in pretty much every version, but I didn't know exactly how it played out in the comics.
EDIT: There have been a few other takes on their first encounter.
I think this is the first encounter in the animated movie, but I it's been years since I saw it so I don't remember for sure.
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With the way the movies have been so far, I'm a bit surprised the live action movie didn't go for something more like this.
The post-crisis version has her saving him after she sees him being attack by some sort of creature in his jet. I don't know exactly what was going on there since I just skimmed through the collection on my tablet.
 
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And in just three words, Gal Gadot out-acts Lynda Carter.


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Holy Overly-harsh critique, Batman!Its like saying Star Trek Beyond (or DS9) in one scene out Star Treks TOS.



I mean, wasn't this one of Lynda Carter's first acting gigs? And let' not forget the importance of the directors and producers and writers in the scene in how they make the actor look/feel.

Yeah, Gal Godot will probably have better acting than Lynda Carter, but he respect for Carter in keeping WOnder WOman VERY strong in the AMerica psyche, and fitting in just right where a lot of genre productions were at the time
 
To be fair to @Christopher , he did soldier through a weekly review of Wonder Woman episodes in the MeTV thread...he's earned his opinion of Lynda Carter's acting ability the hard way.
 
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