Spoilers Star Trek Beyond: Errors, Goofs, Inconsistencies

[Crazy Eddie]

It doesn't make much sense for the Stargazer to already exist.

Did we actually SEE the stargazer at Yorktown well enough to tell it was the same ship Picard was commanding? If not, then I don't see the problem; it's probably a totally different starship that just happened to have the same name.

Actually I'm kind of amazed they never tried to insert a constitution class "USS Voyager" into one of these movies.

 

[Kelso]

Did we actually SEE the stargazer at Yorktown well enough to tell it was the same ship Picard was commanding? If not, then I don't see the problem; it's probably a totally different starship that just happened to have the same name.

Actually I'm kind of amazed they never tried to insert a constitution class "USS Voyager" into one of these movies.

It also had the same registry (NCC-2893)

And, yeah, the prime Stargazer might have been 100 years old when was destroyed. I don't know that it wasn't. Or the K-verse version might have been built earlier. It just seems like an incongruous reference, when they could just have easily picked one from the era.

It's like Delta Vega. Sure, there may also be an ice world near Vulcan with that name... but why not just pick a name that fits better?

 

[ScottJ85]

1) The technobabble on jamming the swarm. UHF is "high frequency"? All radio is by definition pretty low frequency, and unlikely to be chosen by future folks. Especially as radio was out of fashion back in Archer's days already, so Edison would be as unlikely to utilize it as the Ancients.

Minor nitpick on this one, they were using a VHF frequency of about 50MHz, not UHF.

Radio has been around for over 100 years and is a very well understood and widely used technology, I assume some form of it would still be in use by 2260.

 

[CommanderTrip]

Well, wouldn't the incoming swarm ships be trivial to deflect away, compared to an asteroid approaching a ship at warp? That's more of an inconsistency than not.

I mean, if things can puncture the hull that easily with shields up, those ships won't last too long anyway.

There are clearly ways of dealing with that without a dish. Miranda and Oberth class ships manage just fine. Not to mention all the non-Starfleet ships that don't use one either.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Navigational_deflector

The first paragraph sums up what I've always understood about how the deflectors work in Trek. I also would assume the Miranda and Oberth class ships as well as the Franklin (isn't that what the funky dish-looking pattern is along the topside of the saucer section?) have some way to project a deflector field to avoid space debris or whatever would tear through the hull at warp velocities, but I have no way of knowing if it's mentioned in some tech manual. Although I did have the TNG tech manual gifted to me a long time ago. Wish I knew where it was. It's a great book.

I think my point on the deflector is stated too in "Year of Hell" Voyager is getting vandalized by microasteroids and Janeway get's chargrilled in deflector control. Then I think in the episode "Course:Oblivion" the deflector field is losing power or is goo-ifying and Janeway dies after technobabbling the shit out of the problem.

Regardless of whether or not it's an inconsistency, it doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the movie at all. After 50 years of various spin offs and incarnations, the franchise is going to have its continuity blips here and there.

 

[Cyke101]

For the big climactic battle, Scotty says that Kirk runs the risk of getting sucked out into space. Scotty, he runs the risk of getting blown out into space. Thank you, Data! A common mistake, sir.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Scotty, he runs the risk of getting blown

That's what SHE said!

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Spoiler: Captain Edison's record

When Scotty accesses Captain Edison's record, in the lower right of his screen there's a registry number in the NCC-7400 or -7600 range. Presumably that range of registries is not even being used in Kirk's time, 99 years after the Franklin disappeared.

I don't think you can call it a mistake when you're just assuming that it probably shouldn't be in use in that time frame. Registry numbers have never really been consistent, anyway.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Watching he movie for a third time yesterday, I noticed that some of the graphics in the corridors and on the bridge still had the original straight nacelle pylons and larger nacelles of the ST'09/Into Darkness Enterprise. A few, like Scotty's in engineering when the nacelles are amputated, have been corrected.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

That they had a cargo-only transporter at all is also odd. Surely they would have retrofitted an older ship with some bio-enabled upgrades in the first place, post 2161, as some sort of fleet-wide standard? Or maybe this was *the* cargo transporter for the ship, with the live-goods one nonfunctional and elsewhere on the ship?

Mark

 

[Franklin]

I suppose there's an answer for it, but why did Spock Prime have all those personal effects with him just to go the mission to inject the red matter into the supernova? And, did he have those with him on Delta Vega, too?

Edited to add: OK, those could've been personal items he accumulated in the new universe. He could have been traveling with only the picture. But still, he'd carry that everywhere? It didn't look like it could be conveniently placed in a pocket.

Not so much a mistake, but the apparently rather soft uncontrolled landing of the Enterprise saucer bothered me a bit. I'd have thought it would've created a debris cloud that would've taken a long time to dissipate. I'd think it would've also created quite a crater.

That so many systems still worked on the crashed saucer bothered me a lot, too. Or at least really stretched by suspension of disbelief.

 

[David cgc]

Remember, that was a digital picture frame. The image itself could've been on, say, a pocket-sized device Spock carried with him as a matter of course holding all sorts of personal and practical data, and he downloaded it into a contemporary frame after he got settled along with pictures of his family, vacation shots from P'Jemm, all sorts of stuff.

 

[ScottJ85]

Remember, that was a digital picture frame. The image itself could've been on, say, a pocket-sized device Spock carried with him as a matter of course holding all sorts of personal and practical data, and he downloaded it into a contemporary frame after he got settled along with pictures of his family, vacation shots from P'Jemm, all sorts of stuff.

I did like how the photo of Sulu's daughter was an old fashioned paper photo stuck to the helm panel.

 

[Franklin]

Remember, that was a digital picture frame. The image itself could've been on, say, a pocket-sized device Spock carried with him as a matter of course holding all sorts of personal and practical data, and he downloaded it into a contemporary frame after he got settled along with pictures of his family, vacation shots from P'Jemm, all sorts of stuff.

Works for me.

 

[Dylan Hoffman]

I know this is a little nit picky, but what is a street-bike doing on the Franklin? Plot convenience? There is absolutely no reason for it, other than that Kirk was going to use it to distract Krall's drones. Even if it was used as some sort of transportation to make up for the fact that they only had cargo transporters, why would it be in the conference room? And even if it was used for transportation, why would they have only one?

I don't know, it just seemed weird.

 

[Ovation]

I know this is a little nit picky, but what is a street-bike doing on the Franklin? Plot convenience? There is absolutely no reason for it, other than that Kirk was going to use it to distract Krall's drones. Even if it was used as some sort of transportation to make up for the fact that they only had cargo transporters, why would it be in the conference room? And even if it was used for transportation, why would they have only one?

I don't know, it just seemed weird.

Captain Edison liked to tool around with motor bikes and brought one along? Has to be some sort of perk to being captain.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Captain Edison liked to tool around with motor bikes and brought one along? Has to be some sort of perk to being captain.

At least he didn't bring a pet.

 

[Timo]

Surely they would have retrofitted an older ship with some bio-enabled upgrades in the first place, post 2161, as some sort of fleet-wide standard?

Making a transporter biocompatible in "Broken Bow" didn't appear to involve a retrofit. Rather, it just required a signature on a form. The system had always been good for live people, but Vulcans did not dare use it that way; humans did.

The same here. The system would have been built for cargo, before "Broken Bow" and thus back when Vulcan conventional wisdom said that's the only thing it was good for. It would not be "man-rated" by design, which is somewhat worrisome in theory. Yet it would have been used for personnel transport during the Romulan War and during Edison's mission of getting lost beyond a wormhole.

I suppose there's an answer for it, but why did Spock Prime have all those personal effects with him just to go the mission to inject the red matter into the supernova? And, did he have those with him on Delta Vega, too?

I don't see the problem here. Spock never lost the ship he traveled in. The glove compartment could have been full of knickknacks. And that wallet thing absolutely would have fit in his pocket - flowing Vulcan robes and cold weather fur jackets are convenient that way!

Why would Spock leave personal items at home? Especially when said home considered him a dangerous dissident?

Not so much a mistake, but the apparently rather soft uncontrolled landing of the Enterprise saucer bothered me a bit. I'd have thought it would've created a debris cloud that would've taken a long time to dissipate. I'd think it would've also created quite a crater.

Uncontrolled? Might be there would be plenty of emergency systems doing their best to make lemonade out of the lemon they were dealing with. The gentle touchdown through a few mountaintops would be their idea of a maximally safe landing, in the circumstances. Clearly both Kirk and Krall assumed there could be survivors inside, too...

I know this is a little nit picky, but what is a street-bike doing on the Franklin? Plot convenience? There is absolutely no reason for it, other than that Kirk was going to use it to distract Krall's drones. Even if it was used as some sort of transportation to make up for the fact that they only had cargo transporters, why would it be in the conference room? And even if it was used for transportation, why would they have only one?

I'd suspect Jaylah had found one in the cargo hold (the one out of the eight that was still working) and utilized it every now and then, stowing it in her living room because it was among her more prized possessions.

Alas, I don't remember Jaylah's reactions to Kirk's glee at finding the bike.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[F. King Daniel]

Just because the flagship gets top-of-the-line upgrades, like a biotransporter and photonic torpedoes, doesn't mean they immediately become fleetwide. NX-02 got pulsed phase cannons, which for all we know are a much easier upgrade than putting in new launch tubes etc.

Remember, it's only last month that the last VHS players were manufactured.

 

[wamdue]

I just watched Undiscovered Country, and something occurred to me. Spock sees a photo of the original crew, and it looks like a cast photo.

Pretty sure its this one
http://www.trekcore.com/specials/rare/cast.jpg

Sulu is in this photo, yet for the entire movie he was on the Excelsior, so if someone had taken that photo at some point in the movie (for some reason) why was Sulu in the photo?

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Pretty sure its this one
http://www.trekcore.com/specials/rare/cast.jpg

It isn't. The photo Spock looks at in Beyond is a promo shot from The Final Frontier. Sulu is still a member of the Enterprise crew at that point.