Star Trek Discovery
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of the U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031. 
I totally get that the CGI is not fully done, that was clear, still makes you wonder why the unfinished CGI was made public.
Also what is this legal issue about? not being able to comment on the design for legal reasons, is not a good start.
Fuller didn't say there was a legal issue about using this design, what he said is that there was (potentially) a legal issue with commenting on its being directly inspired by McQuarrie's concepts. I'm just guessing but that might mean that if they say publicly that it's based on his design, then he'll have to be credited as a designer and receive royalties or something like that. It probably depends on what the terms of his agreement with the studio were when working on Planet Of The Titans, which may be what their legal team is currently trying to determine.
I'm actually really pleased with the detailing, texturing, and lighting. It's the basic design—the shapes and their proportions—that I dislike.
Small nit-pick: it's based on a concept for the Enterprise from Star Trek: Planet of the Titans, not Phase II. Totally different projects.
But I absolutely agree that it's all point-of-view! Myself and many others really don't like the design and never have. Still others absolutely love the design and always will. Those opinions, while conflicting, are completely valid. We're all allowed to have our own opinions and expectations and our own sense of taste. And, importantly, we're all allowed to express those opinions. That's why we're all here, right?
Spot on! I still don't think the Enterprise-D or Voyager designs were good. But you know what? I still have models and toys and posters of them, and I still enjoyed (and continue to enjoy) the heck out of their respective shows. And I definitely dislike them less than I did when they first came out. If we are indeed stuck with the disc-on-a-triangle-with-a-couple-sticks-hanging-off design, I'm sure that, over time, I'll get used to it. I'll probably buy models and toys of it, endlessly speculating about it and trying to learn about every little detail—just like I still do with the Galaxy and Intrepid classes.
In the meantime, I just really hope that they don't end up using the design.
Some mentioned feeling a Kingon influence. However the McQuarrie design (and thus variant too) has always reminded me of the Vulcan IDIC symbol
Ignore the gray and red circles, look at the blue cut out circle. The proportions of the triangle and circle compared with the McQuarrie design is pretty much identical.
That's a good point. Given the shape, the early registry number, and all the need for peace, unity, and understanding that Fuller was talking about at the panel, I think this might just be a founding of the Federation series. The only thing that suggests otherwise from the test flight clip is the blue light up deflector dish.
Yeah, maybe it is wishful thinking. I really hate to be negative, usually I'm very enthusiastic about new things in Trek. I loved the NX-01, I loved the Enterprise from Star Trek (2009), I loved the Kelvin and the Franklin. But this? This is the first Star Trek ship design that not only does nothing for me, but one that I actively dislike. I find it's way too boxy, out of proportion and lacking any kind of grace. I really really hope the end result will look much different than this. I don't and won't judge a whole series by its ship design, but I hope they will rethink this model.
By the way, people keep mentioning the first public images we saw of the NX-01 and that they were bad, too. Does anyone have a link? Do they mean this?
Maybe, maybe not. I definitely remember seeing the foamcore Voyager Prototype before the show came out. The design changed pretty drastically after that was revealed. (I just wish I wasn't several thousand km away from home so I could dig up where the prototype was revealed.)
Yeah, but was that design released in an official teaser promo for the show?
(Don't think I've seen that before...like it better than the final design, FWIW.)
Yes, Doug Drexler did a write-up about it on his blog that can now unfortunately only be accessed through the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130126...s.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/nx-approval-model/
Fingers crossed either Ken Adams' estate object, or McQuarrie does - asks for too much money, file a lawsuit or whatever.
Aside from the saucer, it's an ugly design. Yes, the Motion Picture went for a radical departure from TOS with its nacelles. But why are these so unlike Starfleet? The front of the things look like a video projector and there's something much too 70s Buck Rogers about the thing. Back to the drawing board for some new configuration please... It just doesn't compare to the NX to me or coming back from having seen Beyond, its Franklin redesign.
Aside from the saucer, it's an ugly design. Yes, the Motion Picture went for a radical departure from TOS with its nacelles. But why are these so unlike Starfleet? The front of the things look like a video projector and there's something much too 70s Buck Rogers about the thing. Back to the drawing board for some new configuration please... It just doesn't compare to the NX to me or coming back from having seen Beyond, its Franklin redesign.
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It wasn't in a motion teaser, but it was revealed in some kind of print promo. I wish I could remember what exactly. I know I still have it at home, but my Google Fu is apparently weak today.
Me too! (And so did Sternbach, turns out.)
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I stand corrected! I received the following tweet from @RMcQArchives this morning:
Source: https://twitter.com/RMcQArchives/status/757240512319410176
Source: https://twitter.com/RMcQArchives/status/757240512319410176
Aha, maybe that's part of what they needed to clarify before commenting on its role in inspiring the Discovery: who actually came up with it in the first place.
if they are worried enough about it, for them to stop people involved in the production from making comment on it, then its already something they should settle on.
It's not splitting hairs. It's new for the show. And most people aren't aware of concept art from the 70s.
We're not seeing much of that here.
Which would raise the question of why tease that design at all?
Personlly I quite like it.
That hasn't been confirmed by anyone.
