Ah. Thanks for clearing that up!
Yeah, I thought he meant the same study model, but he meant the same condition of being a study model.
Whew.
Star Trek Discovery
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Yeah, I thought he meant the same study model, but he meant the same condition of being a study model.
Whew.
UDPATES: During the subsequent press interviews producer Heather Kadin exclusively told Trekmovie.com that the design for the U.S.S. Discovery is not final.
When asked about the increased representation of the new series Kadin said that women and LGBTQ characters (on and off screen) will be important to Star Trek Discovery.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/07/23/breaking-fuller-announces-new-series-titled-star-trek-discovery/
When asked about the increased representation of the new series Kadin said that women and LGBTQ characters (on and off screen) will be important to Star Trek Discovery.
http://trekmovie.com/2016/07/23/breaking-fuller-announces-new-series-titled-star-trek-discovery/
It is explicitly not confirmed as to when this will be set, but in any case I just do not get this line of thinking. What we saw in all of the previous shows and movies combined represents but a tiny slice of what could be going on during the same periods they cover, let alone the gaps in between. There's absolutely no reason Discovery can't be going places no one has gone before at any point after ENT. Again, space is vast; there is plenty of room to bump into all kinds of situations never encountered before and go on without ever coming across them again.
The old fashioned swirling Bussard collectors, impulse engines and TMP era deflector dish and low registry number all suggest an old design, couple that with a very old fashioned design layout and it's hard to imagine this ship in a future after the soverign, akira and defiant. And if cost efficiency was the goal in a post-apocalypse universe then why an all new design seemingly inspired from centuries before? It would be like a modern country trying to rebuild it's navy by looking at a n old steam paddler for inspiration.
In theory you are absolutely, 100% correct but in practice they have failed SPECTACULARLY to ever pull it off. Enterprise being the prime example.
Not only that though, but there is always the spectre of the 'known' future hanging over the show. It just robs any dramatic pretense when you know that there really ISN'T any threat to the Federation, the Galaxy, the Universe, or what not because we've already seen how it all pans out right up through the first half of the 24th Century- unless they somehow make clear that this is yet another totally new timeline, in which case the whole thing becomes moot and they can do whatever they want.
DSC teaser with a different theme - now I like it even more
You could fly a turd out of that asteroid with that music and it would sound epic.
After force feeding my self the teaser multiple times it is starting to grow on me.
It will never be aesthetically beautiful per se but I am beginning to suspect its real beauty will come from accomplishments during its journey, the role in history it (may) play.
It will never be aesthetically beautiful per se but I am beginning to suspect its real beauty will come from accomplishments during its journey, the role in history it (may) play.
I would just like to point out that for some people canon isn't a burden....
....its a joy.
So yes, a prequel has failed around canon in the past, but that prequel, I remind everyone, had producers who had never even watched TOS, and people onboard who felt that canon was a burden on them, and still had the gall to make it the earliest work of fiction in the Star Trek universe. Of course it was going to then have trouble with canon. Let's wait and see what a hardcore fan like Fuller will do.
....its a joy.
So yes, a prequel has failed around canon in the past, but that prequel, I remind everyone, had producers who had never even watched TOS, and people onboard who felt that canon was a burden on them, and still had the gall to make it the earliest work of fiction in the Star Trek universe. Of course it was going to then have trouble with canon. Let's wait and see what a hardcore fan like Fuller will do.
Well, that's a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't think it was a bad show overall, although it had its lows like every other, some quite pronounced. And most of the complaints I remember it receiving at the time were the exact opposite of "they are having to walk on eggshells around the canon"; more like "they are riding roughshod over it without care," even if that was most often an unwarranted overstatement. But regardless, the hands at the wheel for this show are completely different from those on ENT, so I don't see what reason there is to think it will be similar in execution. You're jumping to conclusions that can't really be supported yet.
Honestly, I can readily do without those kind of inflatedly "high-stakes" existential threats anyway. The danger and jeopardy should be to the ship and crew themselves, personal and immediate, and no time period puts undue limitations on that. But again, it's too early to draw conclusions about what the show will or won't be like at this point.
Indeed! Hell on Wheels just finished its story last night. The fact that I know what happens in the world for the next 150 years after the show takes place doesn't have any impact on my attachment to the characters and their situations.
I guess I must be have bad taste, because I really like the design.
A lot of people seem to be assuming that just because it has a lower registry number that this must take be another prequel, but I really don't see where that has to be the case. Do we even know for sure that all of the registry numbers always have to go up? Even if they do there are plenty of reasons why it could have a lower number.
Personally I think the design looks more like something that could be coming out of the post-Nem era than TOS or Ent.
If the registry number was as clear an indicator as a lot of people seem to be thinking it is, then I have a feeling they wouldn't bother keeping the show's time period a secret.
A lot of people seem to be assuming that just because it has a lower registry number that this must take be another prequel, but I really don't see where that has to be the case. Do we even know for sure that all of the registry numbers always have to go up? Even if they do there are plenty of reasons why it could have a lower number.
Personally I think the design looks more like something that could be coming out of the post-Nem era than TOS or Ent.
If the registry number was as clear an indicator as a lot of people seem to be thinking it is, then I have a feeling they wouldn't bother keeping the show's time period a secret.
then why on earth did they even bring it to Comic Con, not least make it public, so that everyone on the internet can see it?
Seriously you hear studios say that what they release at comic con is not finished, and not ready for public release, which I can buy, the CGI on this ship is certainly that, but why did they make it public, if that design was not final.
I know they want to have something to show at Comic Con, but this has done more harm, than not having any footage to show.
She probably just means it's not fully detailed/textured yet, as many here have suggested.
The only swirling Bussards I can recall were on the Enterprise E. I cant think of any other swirly nacelle bits that were identified as Bussards prior to this. We're the Ent Cs Bussards swirly or just glowy?
Amen to this.
It's scary how many people have drunk the Reboot kool-aid. To those people I say this: Go download the program SpaceEngine. Play around in it for twenty minutes. Zoom out until you can see the whole galaxy. In this view, select different stars that are hundreds of light-years apart. Notice how the cursor barely moves? SPACE IS FRIGGIN' HUGE! There is plenty of room for new adventures in any era of Trek. What we've seen so far in Trek is just a teaspoonfull of sand compared to all the sand in all the beaches on earth.
OR she means it will be something completely different from what we see in the teaser.
And apparently there are some legal issues with using it which is a pretty big question mark, they didn't give any details into what but I would guess that the main problem is that it constitutes a crime against humanity.
The TOS enterprise... And the deflector seems to be straight off the 1701-A
The NX-01 had swirly ones.
She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts. 
I think that's wishful thinking on the part of some who don't like the design. They wouldn't just throw a random design out there for something like this. It may not be the final product, but it's where they're planning to go.
And even though I'm a defender of the design:
