Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Saga]

That makes more sense. I could see psychological damage from kids.

In other news, Invincible Iron Man (which I think is the best Iron Man series since before the original Civil War) is getting relaunched, with a new Iron Man.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...ncible-iron-man-relaunch-from-bendis-caselli/

Its going to star the one boring part of the current comic, a 15 year old female college student who built an Iron Man suit and just kind of takes up space without adding anything in the current book. I won't be trying the relaunch. I was happy to have a great Iron Man book again after years without one that was more than tolerable (and the one before Superior IM was just terrible). I'm not going to bother with yet another spin off hero, especially since they're getting rid of a good book to do it and I found her boring in all her scenes so far. It was still nice to get a good Iron Man book, even if it was just for awhile. I'll miss it.

Still, for every Marvel misstep there is a new DC book that is actually good, so maybe Marvel is just trying to help keep my comic reading list from getting too big.

i pretty much agree with you on this. i'm not crazy about Bendis but i have been enjoying his Iron Man books thus far. it would have made more sense to take Tony out of the picture and have Rhodey become Iron Man again. but no, Marvel went with a completely unnecessary and 'shocking' death.

i really don't see this new book lasting that long. plus, we still have International Iron Man. i'm curious how Bendis is gonna treat the whole adopted thing.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'd love someone to complain about there being a black Iron Man and actively demonstrate their ignorance of Marvel history.

ETA: I'd love them to bring back the secret identity aspect just for a little while with the new Iron Man.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Rhodey's Funeral was nice.

"This is Iron Man!"

I think the author called out Marvel for not making a press release in the 80s for telling all little African American kids out there, that they could grow up to be Iron Man.

Truth, I hit that very narrow window, James Rhodes was Iron Man in very first Iron Man comic.

Jim was killed because he's the chick.

Awful shit happen for forty years to him to accentuate the story of Tony Stark's life.

Carol took him to bed for 5 minutes and broke him dead.

She needed a reason to go Type A on the Civil War, and dead boyfriend seemed like a firm justifier.

But seriously, they were together for 3 or four months our time, which with Marvel sliding time is what? A week and a half? Or did time slide the other way, and there's some claim that their courtship was kept under the radar for a very long time? A year or more?

 

[Saga]

yeah, i thought the Carol/Rhodey relationship was going somewhere. i dunno how much time they spent together in-universe, but they were a good couple.

 

[Guy Gardener]

This week in Captain Marvel

Spoiler: terrible book

she tried to talk about War Machine as an employee who needed a debriefing for the benefit of those in earshot, where upon someone says "Relax, everyone knows that he's your boyfriend."

Then there was half a page of sex using a PG13 filter.

The cover said Road to Civil War II.

They were getting on their big boy pants to fight Thanos where Jim get's dead at the end of that issue.

"Sigh"

So artificial.

 

[Mike Farley]

If Marvel is putting a push in for these new, young, non-white heroes, maybe they should hire some young, non-white talent to write the books, instead of the same middle-aged white guys that've been writing mainstream super-heroes for 20+ years?

 

[Turtletrekker]

This time, Marvel has taken its bloodlust too far!



ETA-- "Bed, Bath and Beyonder".

 

[kirk55555]

Ok, Marvel is just screwing with me now:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-original-god-of-thunder-is-back-and-ready-to-prove-1783289116

The "Unworthy" Thor? Its been a year or two, and we've never heard why he's "unworthy". I'd say he's a lot more worthy then Jane Foster, who didn't just take his hammer but also stole his birth name. Its by the same terrible writer as The Mighty Jane thorster, so I won't be reading it. Jason Aaron has caused more damage to Thor and the Marvel asgard books then any writer in the history of the Marvel character. At this point, he's like Dan Slott on Spider-Man, a writer who is on a character for way too long. It feels like I'll have to outlive Aaron in order to read a main series Thor story that he doesn't write. He was terrible writing the real Thor, and Jane Thorster is the worst of the rip off heroes that Marvel has been shoving down peoples throats for the last few years.

I'm just glad that Walt Simonson is writing Ragnarok, the only good Thor book since Aaron first took over original Thor at Marvel.

 

[Saga]

i really like Aaron's Thor stuff so i'm excited for this.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Aaron's Thor has been moving at a glacial pace, imo. Jane has been Thor since 2014, and she's had a total 12 issues on "Thor" and "Mighty Thor" and has accomplished nothing. Jane has also been on ANAD Avengers, and that book is getting the axe. The only thing Jane Thor's book has going for it is nice art.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She pulled Captain America.

Jane ain't no slouch.

 

[Mr Light]

Two questions about this.

Did Thor become "unworthy" because of what Nick Fury whispered in his ear in Original Sin? Did we ever learn what that was?

And didn't Thor become "worthy" again at the ending of Avengers Running Out of Time? He and Hyperion stood alone against the Ivory Kings, and the unworthy Thor hammer stopped working for him just before they got killed.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Worthiness is relative.

You can be too worthy to use one hammer, and still not worthy enough to use another.

The final battle with the ivory kings, was the end, male Thor after that was created by Lord Doom from the memories of Lord Doom (who is omniscient)?

 

[M.A.C.O.]

She pulled Captain America.

Jane ain't no slouch.

I think you mean Captain Falcon.

Two questions about this.

Did Thor become "unworthy" because of what Nick Fury whispered in his ear in Original Sin? Did we ever learn what that was?

And didn't Thor become "worthy" again at the ending of Avengers Running Out of Time? He and Hyperion stood alone against the Ivory Kings, and the unworthy Thor hammer stopped working for him just before they got killed.

No. We never learned why Thor became unworthy. It'll probably be something stupid and contrived.

Me, I think Mjlonir is just a sucker for the babes, and deems any woman who touches it "worthy".

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1a392f22a6be7d90267b3193c3a0179e/tumblr_o1tp0fLH9Q1r0x04do3_500.jpg

http://doctor-know.tumblr.com/post/92905110680/superdames-yeah-women-are-worthy-jane-foster

 

[Turtletrekker]

Victor Von Doom is the Infamous Iron Man.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...-marvels-infamous-iron-man-from-bendis-maleev

 

[kirk55555]

Victor Von Doom is the Infamous Iron Man.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...-marvels-infamous-iron-man-from-bendis-maleev

So, we're going from one very good Iron Man book (and one terrible one with International Iron Man), to two books that don't actually have Iron Man in it, but still use the name. I might try this one, but I can't see myself reading it for long.

Remember when a character could go years without a renumbering/reboot/replacement? Or when Marvel wasn't trying to get rid of every established character so they could shove their superhero alias's on a bunch of generally boring replacements? At this point, it feels like vague memories of a bygone world

 

[Saga]

So, we're going from one very good Iron Man book (and one terrible one with International Iron Man), to two books that don't actually have Iron Man in it, but still use the name. I might try this one, but I can't see myself reading it for long.

Remember when a character could go years without a renumbering/reboot/replacement? Or when Marvel wasn't trying to get rid of every established character so they could shove their superhero alias's on a bunch of generally boring replacements? At this point, it feels like vague memories of a bygone world

i think the days of no renumbering/reboot/replacement are over. if any Marvel comic makes it to issue #25 i'll be surprised.

Doom as Iron Man though... weird. i'll give it a try at least.

 

[kirk55555]

i think the days of no renumbering/reboot/replacement are over. if any Marvel comic makes it to issue #25 i'll be surprised.

Doom as Iron Man though... weird. i'll give it a try at least.

One thing I'll give to DC, a bunch of comics just ended/are ending at #52. That's far from how long books used to last, but its something. heck, they just renumbered Action and Detective Comics into the 900s. Maybe DC will be the company that doesn't renumber every ten minutes, to help set them apart from Marvel.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You know what we don't have a lot of any more?

Sports comics.

Imagine a 12 issue maxi series about Victor Von Doom competing in an Iron Man competition.

 

[kirk55555]

You know what we don't have a lot of any more?

Sports comics.

Imagine a 12 issue maxi series about Victor Von Doom competing in an Iron Man competition.

If they do sports comics, I want NFL Superpro to come back, but with a different name. Its like how they brought back US-1 (the heroic trucker), but changed the name. So, maybe Football Man or something like that. He can fight thinly veiled parodies of real life sports people/organizations (Roxxon Football League?), and maybe have themed arch enemies like Dr. Steroid.