Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)
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Didn't they have to march around the wall a million times blowing the horn first, though?
Just one accidental noise being responsible for the biggest disaster in the world would be pretty lame.
Almost as lame as Bran accidentally bringing the wall down (or at least nullifying its magic) because some Darth Maul wannabe touched him in a dream once.
Revealed -- what the Horn of Winter sounds like:
That's a great point. Maybe Dany's brother WAS fire-proof like her, and he wasn't killed by the temperature of the gold, but by the fact that it suffocated him. They still need oxygen to breathe!
Also, I recently rewatched the series. In Dany's VERY FIRST SCENE they show her calmly walking naked into a tub of scalding hot water while the handmaidens are freaking out.
Also, I recently rewatched the series. In Dany's VERY FIRST SCENE they show her calmly walking naked into a tub of scalding hot water while the handmaidens are freaking out.
The gold didn't cover his nose, nor his mouth.
He died from deep-fried brain.
Occam's razor, guys. C'mon.
Was it Martin himself or one of the GoT books that stated that magic seemed to return with the birth of the Dragons, that magical procedures and spells now worked easier or were more powerful now?
It would tie in that the Fireproof ability of the Targaryens only kicked in then which wouldn't have saved Viserys as he obviously died before. Would be interesting though to see if Jon is fireproof
It would tie in that the Fireproof ability of the Targaryens only kicked in then which wouldn't have saved Viserys as he obviously died before. Would be interesting though to see if Jon is fireproof
Indeed. Since the birth of the dragons, the alchemists in King's Landing also mentioned how their wildfire was suddenly more potent without changing the formula and the Pyromancers of Qarth also noticed their fire spells getting stronger and the glass (obsidian) candles at the Old Town Citadel were spontaneously igniting (something I hope Sam gets to witness next season during his time there).Was it Martin himself or one of the GoT books that stated that magic seemed to return with the birth of the Dragons, that magical procedures and spells now worked easier or were more powerful now?
It would tie in that the Fireproof ability of the Targaryens only kicked in then which wouldn't have saved Viserys as he obviously died before. Would be interesting though to see if Jon is fireproof
In short, it ain't just Dany. Magic has returned to the entire world because of the dragons, and it definitely seems to be pyrocentric in nature. No doubt to counter-balance the cold magic of the Night King and who/whatever force is driving him.
Had Viserys and Jon been burned AFTER the dragons emerged, their injuries may have taken on a different, or even less severe, form.
Where and when was it stated, and not assumed, that Targaryens are specifically fireproof? Why isn't it simply burn proof? That would cover any issues with the molten gold.
When Dany stepped into Kahl Drogo's funeral pyre? And re-confirmed when she emerged from the burning main hall at Vaes Dothrak? That much prolonged exposure to fire would necessarily implicate fire proof. Burn proof or fire resistance more implies survival after a short-term exposure. Dany was in those fires for a LONG time, especially the first one (went in at dusk, emerged at dawn). If that ain't fireproof, then I don't know what is.
Remember, there aren't many Targaryens running around (at least, in the TV version). The ones we do know about are either dead or haven't been exposed to fire since the birth of the dragons. We don't know how they would react to it now.
Remember, there aren't many Targaryens running around (at least, in the TV version). The ones we do know about are either dead or haven't been exposed to fire since the birth of the dragons. We don't know how they would react to it now.
Dany is "fireproof" in the show because it looks good on camera. This is a change done for the translation to a visual medium that I sincerely doubt has been thoroughly thought out. Since they like to take shortcuts in the show, I would not be surprised at all if Jon's heritage is revealed to Dany through just such a walk out of fire, possibly even dragon fire at her own command. (I was hoping for a scene of him coming back to life on his own funeral pyre myself).
No, my point is was it ever verbally stated to be limited to fireproof and not extended to all elements of heat?
Magic!
I'm not trying to separate the two. I'm trying to broaden the scope or rather broaden our view of the scope. Fireproof keeps being cited as the defining attribute and I'm suggesting maybe it's not that finite, i.e. heat overall and not just fire.
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Imagine a campfire. Then imagine black asphalt in Arizona in summer, or the handle of an iron skillet that's been on your stove on high for 10 hours. Done.
If you want to quibble about electric and gas stoves, imagine the iron skillet on an induction stove.
If you want to quibble about electric and gas stoves, imagine the iron skillet on an induction stove.
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