Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)

[DigificWriter]

^ Whatever, dude.

I might not understand the reasoning, but I've at least accepted the reality of things as they are.You can't even seem to do that.

 

[JWPlatt]

I have no reason to deny it as a strong possibility - only as an absolute.

 

[DigificWriter]

I have no reason to deny it as a strong possibility - only as an absolute.

Actually, you don't have either, but you clearly have no qualms about looking absolutely silly for denying what's staring you right in the face.

 

[dahj]

Keep your petty squabbles for small council meetings guys.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

There has to be some big reason that Sam is there, whether it's down to Jon's parentage or a way to defeat, or at least battle, the White Walkers.

Besides possible in-universe confirmation of Jon's heritage (Bran's visions alone would be difficult to convince people in power with), I think Sam's going to find out that the ancient broken horn that he, Edd and Grenn discovered at the Fist of the First Men along with the stash of Dragonglass is actually the Horn of Winter that can bring down the Wall, which is probably why it was broken in the first place. And somehow, through accident or deliberate action (though I don't know why anyone would do it deliberately at this point since all the surviving Wildlings are south of The Wall) someone is going to get a hold of the horn, repair it, and blow it, collapsing the Wall and allowing the White Walkers to pass freely into the rest of Westeros.

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Alternatively, Bran could unwittingly be the method of the White Walkers getting past the Wall, though this would be a lot less spectacular and dramatic a scene than the entire Wall collapsing, which is why I favor the horn being used in the show. Since Bran being "touched" by the Night's King in his vision allowed the White Walkers to penetrate the Children of the Forest's magical barriers, it's conceivable that Bran passing under or around the Wall on his way south back to Castle Black or Winterfell could remove the magical barrier that prevents the White Walkers from crossing it as well.

 

[dahj]

Sneaky hoperaising picture

 

[Mr Light]

<<Alternatively, Bran could unwittingly be the method of the White Walkers getting past the Wall, though this would be a lot less spectacular and dramatic a scene than the entire Wall collapsing, which is why I favor the horn being used in the show. Since Bran being "touched" by the Night's King in his vision allowed the White Walkers to penetrate the Children of the Forest's magical barriers, it's conceivable that Bran passing under or around the Wall on his way south back to Castle Black or Winterfell could remove the magical barrier that prevents the White Walkers from crossing it as well.>>
But Bran knows this. So why the hell would he pass through the Wall? Even if he gets trapped and dies, it's better for him alone to die than to doom the entirety of Westeros.

 

[JWPlatt]

Part of a strategy? The writers will use their imagination to make a dramatic and sweet win happen. Oh, except for the bitter part, of course.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Who's got the horn now?

 

[Mr Light]

Roland, of Gilead.

 

[publiusr]

My first thought when I saw Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne with the short cropped blond hair and the arrogant, cruel smirk on her face was how much she reminded me of Joffrey.

Then too, I'm sure the Mastiff eating at the face of Iwan Ramsay Rheon in that Vicious scene was named Violet...

"Separation of church and state -
Level: expert."

Martin should have written our reality. In the season finale, it was the church that burned--but the Pharos-sporting Alexandia-like library survived.

Wildfire. Part napalm...part tactical nuke.

 

[Cyrus]

A little horn that can bring down the big wall seems kind of silly. It would be even more silly if Sam accidentally destroys the wall by blowing the horn to test it. Hopefully it is not going to happen that way.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Question for experts on the shows and books. Have we ever seen Jon Snow get burned? Just a thought if he is genetically Targaryen.

 

[dahj]

^^
Targaryens aren't fireproof by default. Viserys certainly wasn't.
As for Jon Snow, he did get burned while saving Jeor Mormont from the wight way back in his early Nights's Watch days.

It's worth noting that Daenerys also isn't fireproof in the books, that pyre which birthed the dragons was a one-time thing according to GRRM.

 

[JWPlatt]

Targaryens aren't fireproof by default. Viserys certainly wasn't.

At what point did fire touch him? He was not tested by fire, but by the heat of molten gold.

 

[dahj]

^^
At the point when the molten gold burned his freaking head off.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Then too, I'm sure the Mastiff eating at the face of Iwan Ramsay Rheon in that Vicious scene was named Violet....

When I first saw Vicious, I was in awe how different Iwan's character was on that show was from Ramsay. The two characters couldn't be more different if they tried.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

When Denerys said 'He wasn't a dragon' I interpreted it to mean that she had the fireproof gene and he didn't. If Jon has been burned it means he doesn't.

 

[JWPlatt]

At the point when the molten gold burned his freaking head off.

In magical fantasy land, it has to be fire or it doesn't count. Otherwise red M&Ms would make you horny too. Prove me wrong. The tragedy for Viserys is that it wasn't fire.

 

[Xerxes82]

In magical fantasy land, it has to be fire or it doesn't count. Otherwise red M&Ms would make you horny too. Prove me wrong. The tragedy for Viserys is that it wasn't fire.

Ok, I'll prove you wrong. Earlier just this season, right before Dany burns the Khals. She puts her hands onto the brazier. Not over the fire in the brazier, but actually on the, presumably extremely hot, metal brazier. She's not fireproof, she's heat resistant. To be fair, molten gold would still kill her, as it would suffocate her after it covered her mouth and nose. So I suppose it's a bit from column A and a bit from column B.