Ramsay was legitimized by Tommen, so I think only kings can legitimize bastards.
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Ramsay was legitimized by Tommen, so I think only kings can legitimize bastards.
When did that happen? I thought I remembered Ramsay's father being the one to officially name him as his legal heir...
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That's how it is in the books.
I'm fairly certain it was mentioned at some point on the show that it was done by royal decree, though I couldn't tell you when exactly.
Also, Stannis(as the One True King) offered to legitimize Jon Snow by royal decree, and in the books even before that Robb(as King in the North) planned to legitimize Jon Snow(and name him his heir).
Pretty much every time a legitimization came up a king was involved...
That's how it is in the books.
I'm fairly certain it was mentioned at some point on the show that it was done by royal decree, though I couldn't tell you when exactly.
Also, Stannis(as the One True King) offered to legitimize Jon Snow by royal decree, and in the books even before that Robb(as King in the North) planned to legitimize Jon Snow(and name him his heir).
Pretty much every time a legitimization came up a king was involved...
^ Bran's vision, references to the Mad King, the talk about 'the rumours' between Cersei and Qyburn - it's certainly shaping up that way.
Maybe the Sand Snakes have sabotaged the wildfire caches so more blows up than intended. They've got to have been up to something for the past eight episodes. They just seemed to disappear. I doubt that magic-based munitions is their thing though.
If Sansa has become a major political player she must know that Littlefinger is not to be trusted, no matter how much he apologizes for leaving her with the Boltons. He has ears everywhere (and Sansa should know by now) so he must have known what kind of people they are. If anything she knew that the Boltons betrayed the Starks and are responsible for the Red Wedding and if that is not evident then there's their banner which displays a barbaric and inhumane practice giving a pretty good clue about them.
Sansa should do well to get rid of Littlefinger first chance she gets.. she has hardened tremendously but is she ruthless enough to dispose herself of a villain masquerading as an ally? Could she beat Littlefinger at his own game by using that inbred imbecile boy king in the Vale much like Margaery used Tommen before the Sparrow cut her off at the knees?
I think the season finale will give as a good hint how that relationship will continue, if Sansa acts very quick it could well be the end of Littlefinger (one can hope.. that Puppetmaster is responsible for so much pain that no one will shed a tear if he dies).
If Robyn were to learn how Littlefinger was responsible for his mother's death, perhaps. I'm not sure how Sansa would also avoid Robyn's ire nor if his troops are more loyal to him than to Littlefinger. I think we're meant to think that Sansa has now learnt enough deviousness to engineer Littlefinger's downfall.
Littlefinger is smart enough to keep himself in a position of necessity to Sansa.
I can't imagine Sansa agreeing to marry him or anyone else given her marriage experience (Engaged to a sadist, married to another, and married to a nice but undesirable man). But she might agree to keep him in her inner circle, in her belief she can control him.
Littlefinger is also probably smart enough not to demand marriage of a person who witnessed him murdering his wife.
No way Sansa can out-devious Littlefinger but maybe she can muster up the sense to just order his death as Cersei demonstrated to him she could do.
I can't imagine Sansa agreeing to marry him or anyone else given her marriage experience (Engaged to a sadist, married to another, and married to a nice but undesirable man). But she might agree to keep him in her inner circle, in her belief she can control him.
Littlefinger is also probably smart enough not to demand marriage of a person who witnessed him murdering his wife.
No way Sansa can out-devious Littlefinger but maybe she can muster up the sense to just order his death as Cersei demonstrated to him she could do.
That conversation already happened pretty much like that when she initially turned down his offer of help from soldiers from the Vale.
Some of the actors have signed contracts for seasons 7 & 8:
http://deadline.com/2016/06/game-of-thrones-cast-season-8-big-raises-salary-hbo-1201776806/
So their characters are safe, at least for a while.
http://deadline.com/2016/06/game-of-thrones-cast-season-8-big-raises-salary-hbo-1201776806/
So their characters are safe, at least for a while.
What is this season 8? I thought they were going with a 13 episode season 7, now are they going the Sopranos/Breaking Bad way?
Regarding Cersei and the wildfire, my guess is she tries to blow up the High Sparrow and his Faith Miliant in the Great Sept, but then something goes wrong and Tommen dies, too. Cersei goes crazy and decides to just burn the whole city down around her...just in time for Jaime to get back and find out.
The rumor has always been two shortened seasons. I really hope it's not true.
There has been no talk of a 13 episode 7th season. The producers have said they want to do 13 more episodes combined for 7th and 8th seasons. I think they are hoping HBO gives them the same season budget, so they have more time and money per episode. HBO can save some money too by having fewer episodes per season as the actors are paid per episode, and some of them will be making $500,000 per episode.
Of course HBO has to agree to this too. So far they have only announced the renewal of the show for the 7th season, with the 8th season renewal considered a formality. No official announcement as to number of episodes yet.
The throne legitimizes their name, the lord of their house recognizes them as an heir. It is a two-stage process. If the Starks are recognized by the North as their rightful leaders, Bran is the rightful King and Lord Stark at the moment, unless Robb legitimized and recognized Jon before he died.
Their social structure seems to broadly follow a mediaeval European one, in which Kings always outrank Queens. Daeny may choose to marry and perhaps even take a Consort but proclaiming a King would bar her from the sovereignty.
That for example, is why Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh and husband to Elizabeth II, is only a Prince, rather than being King Phillip.
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That for example, is why Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh and husband to Elizabeth II, is only a Prince, rather than being King Phillip.
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