Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Ovation]

Well, that's mostly true (in Canada we combine the two and have oilsands). But we shouldn't forget the National Igloo. Global warming has put it at great risk of disappearing. Thankfully, the generosity Americans showed our special envoy, Rick Mercer, years ago helped us rescue it. We can only hope America will be as supportive in the future.

 

[kirk55555]

Trying to catch up with Supergirl before Season 2 comes to CW has really lead to some changes in my opinion about it. Cat Grant is more tolerable then I remember, and actually has a few good moments. She's not an element I really like, but she's generally tolerable. This is compensated for by Maxwell Lord being the worst villain in a Berlanti show. He makes Vandal Savage look like evil Harrison Wells in comparison.

When it comes to other characters, Martian Manhunter is really good. I hope he sticks around for Season 2 and doesn't get dropped or appear less because of the show's move. One thing when it comes to villains, has Kara ever fought a villain that Superman fought first? It seems like all the villains the shows take from Superman Comics are all "Supergirl" villains in show, I haven't seen one that was mentioned as having fought Superman first, and is now in National City fighting Supergirl. Doing something like that might be a good way of not just giving Supergirl every Superman villain and leaving him with nothing but presumably Lex Luthor and other villains they probably can't show. Maybe they'll do that now that they'll be showing Superman on the show.

Its been a bit of a weird ride. Some of the episodes of this show are absolutely terrible (like Bizarro, which I just struggled through), but some have been pretty good. Hopefully Season 2 is more balanced when it comes to good/bad episodes. Maybe they could get some more Flash writers to do an episode or two.

 

[John Clark]

I think they mentioned Superman fighting Reactron before Supergirl did?(been a while since I've seen that episode though)

 

[JD]

Reactron already had a history with Superman when he showed up in National City in episode 2.
EDIT: Ninjaed by John Clark

 

[kirk55555]

Reactron already had a history with Superman when he showed up in National City in episode 2.
EDIT: Ninjaed by John Clark

I must have forgotten that. When I decided a few weeks ago to catch up with Supergirl before Season 2, I skipped some of the early episodes that I definitely watched on TV (I started catching up from Livewire) so its been a long time since I've seen episode 2.

 

[DigificWriter]

She also briefly fought the alien temptress Maxima, who had previously tried to seduce Superman and fought him when he rejected her advances (see Myriad).

 

[John Clark]

She also briefly fought the alien tempress Maxima, who had previously tried to seduce Superman and fought him when he rejected her advances (see Myriad).

Doh. - Should have remembered that as it only aired where I am last friday

 

[kirk55555]

She also briefly fought the alien temptress Maxima, who had previously tried to seduce Superman and fought him when he rejected her advances (see Myriad).

I'm not there yet, but I remember hearing that she shows up. I'm surprised they didn't change her origin and made her come to Earth and choose Jimmy Olsen as her mate. By doing that, they could have made her a "supergirl" villain, and add to the tedious romantic triangle/square/cube they have going

 

[Nerys Myk]

SG's rogues gallery isn't very deep. Not unlike Green Arrow's.

 

[Christopher]

SG's rogues gallery isn't very deep. Not unlike Green Arrow's.

Honestly, neither is Superman's, traditionally. Luthor and Brainiac are the big ones, plus folks like Metallo, Bizarro, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Toyman, and the Prankster. Superman: The Animated Series and Smallville made Darkseid one of the big bads, but he wasn't specifically a Superman villain before so much as a villain in the New Gods comics and maybe Justice League (even though he was introduced in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen). Superman has never really been known for having a rogues' gallery as strong as Batman's or the Flash's. Few DC heroes have.

 

[Commander Richard]

I'd like to see more of Maxima and hopefully Mr. Mxyzptlk.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Honestly, neither is Superman's, traditionally. Luthor and Brainiac are the big ones, plus folks like Metallo, Bizarro, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Toyman, and the Prankster. Superman: The Animated Series and Smallville made Darkseid one of the big bads, but he wasn't specifically a Superman villain before so much as a villain in the New Gods comics and maybe Justice League (even though he was introduced in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen). Superman has never really been known for having a rogues' gallery as strong as Batman's or the Flash's. Few DC heroes have.

At least with Superman you get a couple of marque villains. Supergirl and GA don't even have that. I'm rather surprised Merlyn hasn't shown up in the comics recently, given his prominence on the TV show.

Yes, Darkseid didn't get much play outside of Kirby's Fourth World until after COIE. I believe LSH's great Darkness Saga was his biggest non JKFW appearance before COIE.

 

[theenglish]

He was in a JSA/JLA crossover a few years prior to the LOSH appearance if I recall.

 

[N-121973]

Honestly, neither is Superman's, traditionally. Luthor and Brainiac are the big ones, plus folks like Metallo, Bizarro, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Toyman, and the Prankster. Superman: The Animated Series and Smallville made Darkseid one of the big bads, but he wasn't specifically a Superman villain before so much as a villain in the New Gods comics and maybe Justice League (even though he was introduced in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen). Superman has never really been known for having a rogues' gallery as strong as Batman's or the Flash's. Few DC heroes have.

Let's not forget Parasite, or Zod and the other Kryptonian incorrigibles.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The comics were terrible, but the toys at the time were amazing.

You squeezed their legs together, and they punched each other.

 

[Commander Richard]

^ Darkseid was the size of a He-Man figure.

 

[theenglish]

Power Action Raging Motion.

I think Super-Powers came out after the LoSH's Great Darkness Saga. I remember when those comics were released Darkseid was still unknown/unexpected enough that the letter column played a game of guess the villain and it was a big reveal when Darkseid was first seen. I also remember not knowing very much about him at the time and having to ask around (we had no internet back then) who he was. I knew who Mister Miracle was but didn't know his connection to Darkseid.

I am willing to bet it was the popularity of the GDS, which was the biggest story in comics at the time, that let to Darkseid's inclusion in Super-Powers and his greater presence in the mainstream DCU overall.

 

[Christopher]

I am willing to bet it was the popularity of the GDS, which was the biggest story in comics at the time, that let to Darkseid's inclusion in Super-Powers and his greater presence in the mainstream DCU overall.

Yeah, I remember that Darkseid was the big bad in the later, better-written Super Friends seasons that were rebranded as The Super Powers Team. Frank Welker played Darkseid using the same gravelly voice he used for Dr. Klaw on Inspector Gadget. Desaad was played by Rene Auberjonois, who would later reprise the role in the DCAU Justice League (after Robert Forster had played the role in Superman: TAS).

But I do think S:TAS was the first thing that treated Darkseid and the New Gods specifically as Superman foes, and Smallville then followed suit.

 

[theenglish]

That's interesting that that started in TAS. By the time that series came out I had stopped reading comics and always just assumed that Darkseid's new role had always been a part of the Byrne reboot.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Cosmic Odyssey was amazing, and early days for the "Prestige Format". (2 years after Dark Knight Returns.)

The beginning of when Comics became made for "adults" who like super heroes and can pay a little more for quality.