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What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!

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Huh? You're trying to paint us all with a broad brush?

I'm pointing out that when I spoke with guys like Warped9 and others on the TOS forum, a lot of the folks there (Hardcore TOSers) would rag on about what they hated about modern society and how TOS' 60s values were better.

In fact, it's an attitude I run into often with hardcore TOSers. The swipes taken at modern society like Humanity has devolved since the 1960s and such.
 
IIRC, there was never any implication that Vulcans could ONLY have sex and produce children during pon farr. Only that during this time, they MUST do it. No episode or film ever implied that they couldn't do it at any other time.

Interesting, but it seems we're repeating the same refutations, just about word for word, as with the Ocampan children argument!!!! It just appears that some people want to believe something to the degree that they imagine dialogue or other indications that simply aren't there, doesn't it strike you?

Now practically, they probably have some faint traces of emotions, but I really do not buy the idea that they're merely controlling their emotions. A Vulcan mind is in a state of perpetual rational calmness.

How do you reconcile your last statement, with what we view in Meld and Random Thoughts? That Tuvok, emotionless, per your reckoning, was inflicted by these spasms of violence strictly because he was infected somehow by another individual? There was a catalytic reaction , certainly, in the first instance, but that simply loosed what was already there. As for the second, that was all Tuvok. Hardly representative of perpetual rational calmness, in either case.
 
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Osama bin Laden and Kim Jong Il were still alive when this thread was started.

I nominate the continual failure of all series to maintain a consistent scale for starships, space stations and journeys between planets. It's particularly bad for things like the Defiants, the Birds of Prey and the Oberths which seem to drastically grow and shrink with every other shot.
 
Interesting, but it seems we're repeating the same refutations, just about word for word, as with the Ocampan children argument!!!! It just appears that some people want to believe something to the degree that they imagine dialogue or other indications that simply aren't there, doesn't it strike you?

Well, it's like Sir Arthur once wrote. If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - HOWEVER improbable - must be the truth.

Some things are simply obviously false. These - that Vulcans can only have sex every 7 years, and (even more so) that Ocampa can only have one child - are two of those things. It simply can't happen any other way. We don't need to be told.
 
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If they could only have one pregnancy, they'd always have to have twins, or more, per birth. Otherwise the species would be at a propagative standstill, and would eventually die out. The only way to grow one's population is to have more births than deaths, and if only one child is born to each union and/or pregnancy, the opposite is occurring.
 
I don't understand the whole Pon Pharr thing. Is that a religious thing? Surely they can have sex at any time and produce kids? It would go against many evolutionary principles if that was restricted to only one particular time? I mean it's not a biological thing is it? Surely not.
 
Vulcans have done such a good job of controlling feelings and urges that their self-control has somehow become ingrained in their biology. Pon farr came about, by design or naturally, as a way to keep the race going, despite their control and unemotionalism. (Hey, maybe a dormant gene from a previous species reactivated, some animal with a 7 year cycle).

They never say Vulcans can't mate otherwise... though it could be true... maybe it's more that they don't, and therefore that they need forcing.

The line between "can't" and "won't" may be blurry, or nonexistant. If a Vulcan renounces the disciplines and works against them, he probably could go at it at will, like any other species, though it probably take time. Sybok probably has a pretty good time...
 
I don't understand the whole Pon Pharr thing. Is that a religious thing? Surely they can have sex at any time and produce kids? It would go against many evolutionary principles if that was restricted to only one particular time? I mean it's not a biological thing is it? Surely not.
Vulcans can have sex and get pregnant any time they want. They typically don't, having a "Victorian attitude towards sex" as its put on Voyager. They only thing ponn farr requires is that at some point every seventh year they have to have sex.
 
The line between "can't" and "won't" may be blurry, or nonexistant.
It's not a question of if they "can't" or "won't" have sex between Pon Farrs. It's that every seven years they must.

Or they can strangle a Starfleet Captain. That seems to work, too. ;)

Vulcans can have sex and get pregnant any time they want. They typically don't, having a "Victorian attitude towards sex" as its put on Voyager. They only thing ponn farr requires is that at some point every seventh year they have to have sex.
Exactly. It's a biological imperative.
 
I don't understand the whole Pon Pharr thing. Is that a religious thing? Surely they can have sex at any time and produce kids? It would go against many evolutionary principles if that was restricted to only one particular time? I mean it's not a biological thing is it? Surely not.

"Amok Time" showed that Ponn Farr is biological. If they don't do it at that particular time, they will die.

Kor
 
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