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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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I can't imagine that Abrams would be the one authorized to drop a bomb like that. The case has nothing to do with him or his movie. If I was in his shoes I'd do anything I could to avoid discussing Axanar in any forum or venue.

On the other hand, going off the reservation could possibly jeopardize his relationship with both CBS and Paramount. I don't think he's that stupid, but he could be that arrogant.

Who knows?
 
BigJake said:
CBS have confirmed they're settling the suit. (See the sixth paragraph of that report.) It seems probable to me that Abrams' remarks about what this means will prove accurate, unless of course Axanar refuses to settle and demands to go to court for some reason. (I guess it's still just in the realm of the possible they could do that, though given the circumstances it would be baffling.)
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Well, that's surprising.
 
BigJake said:
CBS have confirmed they're settling the suit. (See the sixth paragraph of that report.) It seems probable to me that Abrams' remarks about what this means will prove accurate, unless of course Axanar refuses to settle and demands to go to court for some reason. (I guess it's still just in the realm of the possible they could do that, though given the circumstances it would be baffling.)
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Nope.
CBS and Paramount have since confirmed that they are officially dropping their lawsuit.

"We are pleased to confirm we are in settlement discussions and are also working on a set of fan film guidelines," a Paramount spokesperson emailed to Buzzfeed'sAdam Vary.
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As has been discussed for many pages now, settlement talks is not the same as dropping the lawsuit.
 
urbandefault said:
I can't imagine that Abrams would be the one authorized to drop a bomb like that. The case has nothing to do with him or his movie. If I was in his shoes I'd do anything I could to avoid discussing Axanar in any forum or venue.

On the other hand, going off the reservation could possibly jeopardize his relationship with both CBS and Paramount. I don't think he's that stupid, but he could be that arrogant.

Who knows?
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I imagine he dropped the bomb like that because it makes everyone happy. Obviously, not everyone in this forum.
 
BigJake said:
CBS have confirmed they're settling the suit. (See the sixth paragraph of that report.) It seems probable to me that Abrams' remarks about what this means will prove accurate, unless of course Axanar refuses to settle and demands to go to court for some reason. (I guess it's still just in the realm of the possible they could do that, though given the circumstances it would be baffling.)
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I had not seen that article, but that is just a statement without any source given.

I haven't seen any other sources verifying that this has happened. Who at CBS/Paramount confirmed it? Usually if the source doesn't want to be revealed, there is a disclaimer. No disclaimer is given, neither is a source. Still has me skeptical. I admit I may not be right, but it still feels wrong.
 
Smoked Salmon said:
Anti-Axanar people are also not now holding back with throwing any label Peters way, such as shyster and con artist.
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To be fair, if you look at the definition of the word shyster:

A person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.

How does that not describe former lawyer Alec Peters? That's why I used that word to describe him.

Apart from that, I do agree with your take on the matter. Now that the lawsuit is soon to be settled, my interest is turning away from that, and toward the new movie, series and 50th anniversary celebrations. As I said upthread, my energies and efforts are better spent elsewhere.
 
BigJake said:
I didn't say it was. Please re-read the quote you're replying to.
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To be fair, the article you've linked to does sloppily equate dropping the lawsuit with settlement talks:

CBS and Paramount have since confirmed that they are officially dropping their lawsuit.

"We are pleased to confirm we are in settlement discussions and are also working on a set of fan film guidelines," a Paramount spokesperson emailed to Buzzfeed'sAdam Vary.
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Edit: Yeah, urbandefault's post has been updated to reflect this. :)
 
I have an international music competition, a move and a wedding to worry about. Not to mention actual Star Trek coming down the pipeline. Regardless of last night's announcement, my interest in this lawsuit would have started to wane as summer officially came around.

I don't like Alec. Never will. I think beyond his shenanigans with Axanar and Propworx, his questionable behavior over the years show he's not a reasonable person at all. Ask a simple question -- you're a hater. Disagree with him, you're a terrible person. But like with the Talifans, I'm beginning to realize, spending energy on these people? Probably not worth it. So let the settlement happen. We all truly figured it was going to go down that way. Alec still, ya know, has to make the movie. And if Axanar is completed with whatever limitations the settlement present, so be it. Maybe I'll watch it someday.
 
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Red Shirt said:
No. People here have been diligent pointing out some lines shouldn't be crossed during the thread topic discussion. Also, your post pointing out the awful negatives as you see them are full of specious generalities about the people posting on this thread. What's your point? Try to shame people into silence? Make them feel bad for having a discussion?

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This has gone much further than "a discussion". The daily, hell hourly, obsession that some have turned this into over nearly five months is not "a discussion". It has become a daily dissecting of literally anything remotely connected with Axanar.

I am not trying to shame anybody into silence. Frankly, the time some people have invested in this (and I didn't specifically refer to this thread as being the man source of debate btw) is way beyond anything I could ever commit to it. If you want to discuss it, be my guest. I'm not stopping you. I'm just posting my opinion about something I have observed for a while. We are all free to do that.

I really don't like Peters, as my posts make clear. I am a neutral and whatever you might want to say about me, one thing you can't is that right now I have any interest in siding with either Axanar or those gunning for him. I am quite removed from fandom as a whole (this forum being my closest contact by far) and I am simply saying it how I have seen it. Peters acting like a desteable douchbag doesn't mean that the behaviour of some on the other side has been perfect. Sorry that it's inconvenient for someone to have such an opinion. If you have a loyalty then I can see why you might not like what I have said. I'm clearly not the only one to think it though, and maybe it's time to ask why some neutrals might think that way, instead of circling on them like pack hounds?

Don't worry though, you'll not have to read many posts from me on this going forward as I think I've said most, if not all, I want to say about Axanar. I'll leave you to your "discussion" and bow about before the inevitably hounding and bullying begins. :)
 
Firebird said:
To be fair, if you look at the definition of the word shyster:

A person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.

How does that not describe former lawyer Alec Peters? That's why I used that word to describe him.

Apart from that, I do agree with your take on the matter. Now that the lawsuit is soon to be settled, my interest is turning away from that, and toward the new movie, series and 50th anniversary celebrations. As I said upthread, my energies and efforts are better spent elsewhere.
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So you're saying any lawyer is automatically an shyster? That's just plain offensive (and it's also a misunderstanding of the sentence you have quoted).
 
Smoked Salmon said:
So you're saying any lawyer is automatically an shyster? That's just plain offensive (and it's also a misunderstanding of the sentence you have quoted).
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That is absolutely not what I'm saying. I'm pointing out the definition of the word I used describes the practices of Peters. If you would not attempt to misrepresent what I'm trying to say, that would enable a clearer discussion. I was on your side, but for that single point of language.
 
Smoked Salmon said:
This has gone much further than "a discussion". The daily, hell hourly, obsession that some have turned this into over nearly five months is not "a discussion". It has become a daily dissecting of literally anything remotely connected with Axanar.

I am not trying to shame anybody into silence. Frankly, the time some people have invested in this (and I didn't specifically refer to this thread as being the man source of debate btw) is way beyond anything I could ever commit to it. If you want to discuss it, be my guest. I'm not stopping you. I'm just posting my opinion about something I have observed for a while. We are all free to do that.

I really don't like Peters, as my posts make clear. I am a neutral and whatever you might want to say about me, one thing you can't is that right now I have any interest in siding with either Axanar or those gunning for him. I am quite removed from fandom as a whole (this forum being my closest contact by far) and I am simply saying it how I have seen it. Peters acting like a desteable douchbag doesn't mean that the behaviour of some on the other side has been perfect. Sorry that it's inconvenient for someone to have such an opinion. If you have a loyalty then I can see why you might not like what I have said. I'm clearly not the only one to think it though, and maybe it's time to ask why some neutrals might think that way, instead of circling on them like pack hounds?

Don't worry though, you'll not have to read many posts from me on this going forward as I think I've said most, if not all, I want to say about Axanar. I'll leave you to your "discussion" and bow about before the inevitably hounding and bullying begins. :)
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That's fine. because your putting the word discussion in quotes sounds very condescending. You are entitled to your opinion as we are entitled to ours. 'bye.
 
I've watched the JJ announcement a couple times now, and it reminds me of all the officer rumormongers I've ever worked with, just before they drop a bombshell they always had that look of "I know something you don't! I know something you don't!" on their face. If for no other reason than that, I must believe Abrams had no authorization to say anything about it. Indeed, a major media corporation like CBS would not let such news out like that, but rather with an official announcement from public relations and/or their law firm.

And as many above have already pointed out: Settlement discussions do not always result in settlement agreements.
 
To reiterate a previous post, I'm pretty sure the court's timeline included settlement talks after the scheduling meeting and before discovery. I could be misrememberating, but I think I read that in one of the court documents. Since the judge denied the defendant's MTD, this is right on schedule.
 
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