Stannis died alone, in the middle who knows where. Besides, the Boltons found his body and probably took it back to Winterfel or burned it. Davos and Melisandre would have great difficulty recovering his body.
Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)
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Yeah well.. the door was still open and Varys standing besides it. There was nothing stopping these Dragons from charging through it (and maybe turning Tyrion and Varys into snacks on their way out). However they just went back.. maybe they cooled off a bit and are waiting for Dany to come and command them, who knows.
I've got to think that, given the dragons' rapid growth rate, Daenarys anticipated the need for a larger door so they could eventually be let out of their dungeon. So there's probably a large portcullis somewhere on the other side with a couple of Meereeneese wine & mead vendors, tiredly napping on their break on the loading dock after unloading Tyrion's weekly shipment of 15 pallets of wine, who are in for a rude awakening.
Stannis is old and busted, Jon is the new hotness. Despite remaining with Stannis, Melisandre was already starting to gravitate toward Jon as the new savior a bit even before Stannis' defeat and death, but Jon's death coming right after Stannis' completely broke her faith and spirit. Plus, as mentioned, they didn't have access to Stannis' body like they did with Jon's, and he's probably little child-killing ashes by now.
I don't know if Ser Davos is aware of what really happened to Stannis' daughter Shireen or not yet since Melisandre is the only surviving witness, unless Stannis' crazy wife was behind the lines and survived somehow, although I wouldn't expect her character to be revisited since her story is over. I'm sure Davos figures Shireen's dead, just not the hows and whys of it. He probably thinks she was killed by Ramsay's army. Knowing that her father burned her at the stake might make even a die hard Stannis loyalist like him revise his opinion of the man. Though, he doesn't seem upset with Melisandre at all. Davos is a pragmatic man with the best interests of Westeros at heart, so I'd expect he'd still come to Melisandre for assistance with resurrecting Jon regardless of his personal feelings, but given his affection for Shireen I find it hard to believe he wouldn't at least express some (admittedly low key, as is his way) anger about her death if he knew the true circumstances behind it. I was hoping there would be some tension there instead of moving on from it completely without any mention.
Anyway, this was a great episode. Some interesting developments, some fun and useful flashbacks, no Dorne or Dothraki BS sucking the life out of things, the return of more Bran to our diet, Ramsay making Joffrey look like the Diet Coke of evil, Tyrion the dragon whisperer, two hilarious head smashes by giants, and an M. Night Shyamalan level TWIST ending with Jon coming back from the dead. Who could have seen that one coming, besides everyone? I'm just glad they didn't drag it out longer and we can actually get down to business now.
My only real dislike being the news that Astapor and Yunkai fell back into the hands of the Masters again, which I hope is not yet another way (along with her burned fleet) of the showrunners saying that yes, Daenarys is going to continue to remain bogged down in her own personal Valyritnam quagmire once she escapes the clutches of the b-team Mongol horde, instead of finally moving on to Westeros. The fictional war to free the oppressed of Slaver's Bay has lasted as long as the actual Civil War, so it's time to end it.
^ Selyse hanged herself before Stannis and what was left of his army marched on Winterfell, so, no, Davos doesn't know what Melisandre convinced Stannis to do to Shireen.
You mean the tiny door only big enough for a man to get through?! Those dragons would never get through there.
Just rewatched the scene where she leads them into the cellar/dungeon and it's the same door i think. It should also be large enough for the Dragons to squeeze through even if they appear a little bit larger than when Dany imprisoned them back in the season 4 finale. And as suggested i think they could widen the passage themselves if they wanted to
Ah, thanks. I must have missed that bit or forgot about it since last year.
Ah, thanks. I must have missed that bit or forgot about it since last year.
It was in the Season 5 finale right before Stannis headed for Winterfell and got slaughtered.
Conversely, I wonder if after her time with the Dotharki and upon discovering that Slaver's Bay is back to how it was, she'll finally realize it's a fruitless war and refocus her efforts towards Westeros. She doesn't need a fleet: She has three dragons.
Dragons are great for burning things down and terrifying your enemies, not so great for occupying and securing large swaths of territory. She's still going to need to transport boatloads (literally) of Unsullied and other troops unless she plans on starting over from scratch in Westeros. Which is certainly possible, since some Westerosi houses will rally to her cause when she returns astride dragons, but not having an established army in place wherever she chooses to make landfall increases the chance that her non-dragon riding minions and infrastructure will be driven back into the sea by a determined enemy.
Of course, it's possible they're just lollygagging with her story so that when she finally returns it will be strictly to deliver an aerial killing blow to a White Walker invasion, and conquering Westeros will comparatively be a distant concern by that point. She might just get control of the continent by default because all the other major houses' armies are White meat and she avoided the worst of it by being off-continent for most of the Walker invasion.
More Bran to our diet.
I guess they're not going to bother to even try to explain how he got so tall and teenaged in the - wait, how long has it been since episode 1, in-universe?
Err.....*magic.* Yeah, that's it. Holding onto tree roots makes you grow.
Probably longer than you think. Those ship voyages are (should be) measured in months, alone. Nevermind all the land travel they do. Didn't Martin say something like Westeros was roughly the size of South America at one point? And they regularly gloss over how long it takes to traverse it for obvious reasons.
Even if it hasn't been all that long since we last saw Bran in-universe, it's not out of the question at all for him to have had a growth spurt, and isn't really something that warrants explanation.
Rang no bells with me either.
Happy that the Aria the blind beggar story-line seems to be over.
Would have preferred a Stark to kill Roose. Hopefully that happens with Ramsey.
Dragons grow to be hundreds of miles long? Did I hear that correctly?
Who was the dude that was doing the Balon funeral ceremony? Was it the brother that killed him or someone else?
Would have preferred a Stark to kill Roose. Hopefully that happens with Ramsey.
Dragons grow to be hundreds of miles long? Did I hear that correctly?
Who was the dude that was doing the Balon funeral ceremony? Was it the brother that killed him or someone else?
The King of the iron islands is Balon Greyjoy, father of Theon. The guy on the bridge is his brother Euron. He hasn't been seen before, though IIRC he's been mentioned.
The Drowned God is who the islanders worship and that was just a suggestion that Euron is delusional as to his own importance.
In S2, Robb Stark sent Theon, who had been a ward/captive of the Starks since Balon's unsuccessful revolt against King Robert years earlier, to negotiate an alliance with his father for use of the Ironborn's ships in the war with Joffrey. However, Balon spurned the offer and Theon, who had sworn his loyalty to Robb, instead threw his lot in with his family and then invaded and took ver winterfell. He not only killed trusted Stark steward Ser Rodrik and the boys who he pretended were Bran and Rickon, but he essentially doomed Robb, by allowing him to be seen as 'The King Who Lost The North', fighting battles while unable to protect his home.
Edit @cyrus the priest was not named IIRC but seems to fit the bill as Aeron Greyjoy aka Aeron Damphair, youngest brother of Balon and a religious fanatic. There is another brother, Victarian, in the books, who has fallen out with Euron, but I'm not sure if he'll be in the show.
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Balon Greyjoy also rebelled against Robert Baratheon a few years after the war that took down the Targaryen dynasty. That war cost him Theon's older brothers and resulted in Theon (now his Heir) being held as insurance against any other tomfoolery.
The dude doing his funeral (I presume at least, since he wasn't called out as such) was another one of his brothers, Aeron; who used to be a drunk, drowned, was revived and went a little crazy somewhere in the process.
The dude doing his funeral (I presume at least, since he wasn't called out as such) was another one of his brothers, Aeron; who used to be a drunk, drowned, was revived and went a little crazy somewhere in the process.
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