It was Trapper's protege, Gonzo Gates that lived in the RV. And the hospital's head nurse was played by Madge Sinclair!
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It was Trapper's protege, Gonzo Gates that lived in the RV. And the hospital's head nurse was played by Madge Sinclair!
^^ And the show's connection to "MASH" was only mentioned in the first episode or two. As a way for the two leads to bond. Trapper John (Pernell Roberts) had a cast picture from "MASH" on his shelf. Which he took down to show Gates. Basically "See, I was an Army surgeon during a war also." I only watched the show because I liked Roberts.
As for "After MASH". At least it had three of the actors from "MASH" in it. But still bad.
Back OT. My current peeve is from "Space Seed" I just watched tonight.
They really need to tightly restrict the starship operation manual titled "How to blow up a starship be pressing five or six buttons."
And did anyone ever notice that Kirk accidentally presses the big red button in Engineering twice?
As for "After MASH". At least it had three of the actors from "MASH" in it. But still bad.
Back OT. My current peeve is from "Space Seed" I just watched tonight.
They really need to tightly restrict the starship operation manual titled "How to blow up a starship be pressing five or six buttons."
And did anyone ever notice that Kirk accidentally presses the big red button in Engineering twice?
I watched that scene recently. I think I've always interpreted it as Kirk being so hyped up at just avoiding the ship's destruction. that he pressed it twice just as a reflexive instinct signifying that he had so narrowly avoided the end. He knew that it wouldn't reengage the destruct sequence, in fact, by itself wouldn't have initiated or caused any action to take place. I've often done something similar in repeating a movement out of relief of having gotten out of a bit of a ticklish situation. Just sort of a release of a built up anxiety being avoided, that's all.
Also, perhaps it's been addressed at some point, but the so called Halkan prediction of galactic revolt has remained a burr in my side. It's never mentioned by the Halkans, as we see their interaction with the landing party, and yet without it, how does Kirk start his memorable dialogue with Mirror Spock at the end? I guess one can only surmise that the Halkans mentioned it prior to the scene as we saw it, otherwise how can you reconcile this gap in continuity for something being propounded, that even at the time of the episode itself, must have left viewers with the distinct impression that changes would be forthcoming for Mirror Kirk, let alone that they much later became the reality in the franchise and novels? It just seems that a rhetorical point of such import, even in the realm of the episode itself, just was poof! created out of nowhere at an especially propitious moment.
Another possibility just occurred to me that might very well make the above statement moot. It actually wasn't necessary for Kirk and his party to have heard this themselves from the Halkans. Aside from anything else,, that would imply that the Federation was going to be overthrown, the rationale for which would seem a little harder to swallow. What makes imminent sense, and again may long have been the accepted truth around here about the incident, is that Kirk gleaned the mention of the threat from Mirror Kirk's personal logs, as they might very well have made an initial visit to the Halkans before the one in which the transferral took place. That would certainly makes sense, although again for the audience, without having actually heard the warning themselves, they would have a bit of work to do figure out the scenario.
Has this latter interpretation been widely agreed upon to explain the origin of the statement?
Also, perhaps it's been addressed at some point, but the so called Halkan prediction of galactic revolt has remained a burr in my side. It's never mentioned by the Halkans, as we see their interaction with the landing party, and yet without it, how does Kirk start his memorable dialogue with Mirror Spock at the end? I guess one can only surmise that the Halkans mentioned it prior to the scene as we saw it, otherwise how can you reconcile this gap in continuity for something being propounded, that even at the time of the episode itself, must have left viewers with the distinct impression that changes would be forthcoming for Mirror Kirk, let alone that they much later became the reality in the franchise and novels? It just seems that a rhetorical point of such import, even in the realm of the episode itself, just was poof! created out of nowhere at an especially propitious moment.
Another possibility just occurred to me that might very well make the above statement moot. It actually wasn't necessary for Kirk and his party to have heard this themselves from the Halkans. Aside from anything else,, that would imply that the Federation was going to be overthrown, the rationale for which would seem a little harder to swallow. What makes imminent sense, and again may long have been the accepted truth around here about the incident, is that Kirk gleaned the mention of the threat from Mirror Kirk's personal logs, as they might very well have made an initial visit to the Halkans before the one in which the transferral took place. That would certainly makes sense, although again for the audience, without having actually heard the warning themselves, they would have a bit of work to do figure out the scenario.
Has this latter interpretation been widely agreed upon to explain the origin of the statement?
They misinformed you.
That's extreme, but field promotions in time of war are a matter of record.
More pet peeves....
- Kes/Neelix love affair (cringes)
- No seat belts in Shuttles?
- 2 dimensional thinking in battles etc.
My pet peeve is people who complain about this. I already mentioned this recently in another thread, but as it is mentioned twice already in this thread, I have to comment.
A Klingon raised in Russia with American Accent?
There have been countless non-American characters with perfect American accents in the show and no one complains, yet when it is British accent then it suddenly is a problem.
I can complain more if you want but that doesn't change the fact that Picard being from France is a problem.
How? It is not that difficult to learn a native speaker level accent. Many people do that in real life and obviously most people do so in the Federation.
I think by that time in the future accents are not acquired from where you live but from whom you associate with.
There was a local radio personality here in town who spoke with a thick English accent- the town she grew up in was Jasper, Alabama where the southern 'twang' is so pronounced it will give you whiplash. Her parents were from England and that is what she heard growing up- it didn't matter what part of the country she lived in.
There was a local radio personality here in town who spoke with a thick English accent- the town she grew up in was Jasper, Alabama where the southern 'twang' is so pronounced it will give you whiplash. Her parents were from England and that is what she heard growing up- it didn't matter what part of the country she lived in.
Because no one spends their whole life in France, then attends SFA and decides he going to have a British accent the rest of his life. No one raised in France grows up with a British accent. Any blab reasoning anyone can conger up is just a laughable effort.
But it did matter where she grew up. Picard grew up in France and we have no indication that his parents were English. To the contrary Picard is the only one in the family with the British accent.
Why? I'm sure he adopted the acent he was taught when he was learning the language. As did Worf, as did Pulaski, as did Spock, as did Uhura... It is strange Americentrism to make it an issue when it is British accent, but not when it is American. American accent is not somehow magically neutral and natural accent. Maybe Picard's teacher was British (or someone with a British accent)? My Finnish SO (who has never lived in the UK) has a perfect British accent*. People can and do learn to speak like native speakers, this is not weird. This is doubly not weird in an universe where preteens learn calculus.
* In Finnish schools British English is the regional variation primarily taught.
Actually, almost every Picard we've ever seen has spoken with that accent. Jean-Luc, Robert, Marie, Rene, and Maurice (Jean-Luc's father) all did.
Jean-Luc's mother ("Where No One Has Gone Before") was the only one who did not.
Yes. They teach British English rather than American English in the French schools. The end.
Yes, English education is excellent in Finland and some other EU countries...
But France has been a different story: http://www.thelocal.fr/20141113/so-why-are-the-french-so-bad-at-english
That's why, from a real-world point of view, it seems odd that a proud Frenchman from France like Picard doesn't have even a tiny little bit of a French accent when he speaks English.
Maybe things will change in the next few centuries.
Kor
A huge pet peeve of mine is how everyone always dresses up for the holodeck. Why the hell do these people, especially on VOY where resources are supposed to be limited, replicate actual period clothing just to wear them in the holodeck? Shouldn't they just use holographic clothes?
I'll take their word over yours in this matter. I've looked them in the eye, and trust them to not lie to me.
And wow, responding to a post I made nearly three months (and fifteen pages!) ago to ride me with the "You posted, therefore you are wrong" bit. You must be bored.
Because the Voyager writers didn't care their characters were supposed to be 70,000 light years away. They wanted to write stories as if the crew was in the Alpha Quadrant.
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