I went for TNG best series finale, All Good Things.... It was fantastic.
My 2nd choice would be Voyager's Endgame.
My 2nd choice would be Voyager's Endgame.
Series with the best finale
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I think the best final scene out of the five, better than WYLB's final scene IMO (which was also strong)
TATV's final scene however works really well as something that wraps up trek, after nearly 40 years, including 18 years continously on TV. With Jonathan Frakes saying "End Program", and the 3 captain voice over, puts that scene in a league of it's own.
TATV's final scene however works really well as something that wraps up trek, after nearly 40 years, including 18 years continously on TV. With Jonathan Frakes saying "End Program", and the 3 captain voice over, puts that scene in a league of it's own.
I think not many will argue that TATV was in a league of it's on, though many might put it a more neagtive league of it's own. Leaving aside it ignored DSN and VOY as part of this "valentine to the fans". The simply fact was the last episode was about Riker and not Archer and co.
I think it would have been nice to have actually seen the Federation treaty being singed, and maybe the first few lines of Archer's speech.
Without question, "All Good Things". Even the title was perfect.
Actually the title was "All Good Things...", it was best finale for Star Trek, definitely a follow up role for Q as a mentor since "Tapestry". Voyager could've done episodes to progress this side of Q but went in an uninteresting, bizarre direction which his Voyager episodes the worst of the series.
Oh man, tough choice. Toss up between All Good Things... and What You Leave Behind. Both were terrific endings to their respective seven year runs. However, I think the writing in All Good Things... was a little tighter and more fulfilling in certain ways than WYLB. (which is ironic considering that Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga have stated it took them a year to write Star Trek: Generations, and they wrote All Good Things... on a two week break during their writing duties for Generations..... and, well, we all know how that turned out.)
AGT has a great story that serves both as a bookend to the series, and a great stand alone episode too. And then it ends with that terrific poker scene as the Enterprise-D sails off into the.....nebula. (or was it sunset? I thought that was A First Full of Datas)
WYLB provides a great ending to not only the Dominion War, but to a lot of character arcs developed through DS9's 7 year run. such as Garak, the former exile now standing in the ruins of his former home (planet). It also served as a nice bookend to "The Emissary" by including Dukat, Bajor, and of course my favorite, Quark and his bar. However, while it does tug on the old heart strings here and there, the final confrontation between Sisko and Dukat was a little anti-climactic IMHO. Still, terrific endings for the Sisko Family, Kira & Odo, Odo & Quark, Bashir & O'Brien, and the rest. And while I understand the real-world implications of cutting Jadzia Dax out of the finale, that also was a bit of a let down. She was a large presence in the show for 6 years.
Overall, top notch writing and a great satisfying ending to DS9. But for the reasons listed above, I gotta give it to TNG.
The less I talk about Endgame and TATV, the better. And TOS....... no..... Just no......
AGT has a great story that serves both as a bookend to the series, and a great stand alone episode too. And then it ends with that terrific poker scene as the Enterprise-D sails off into the.....nebula. (or was it sunset? I thought that was A First Full of Datas)
WYLB provides a great ending to not only the Dominion War, but to a lot of character arcs developed through DS9's 7 year run. such as Garak, the former exile now standing in the ruins of his former home (planet). It also served as a nice bookend to "The Emissary" by including Dukat, Bajor, and of course my favorite, Quark and his bar. However, while it does tug on the old heart strings here and there, the final confrontation between Sisko and Dukat was a little anti-climactic IMHO. Still, terrific endings for the Sisko Family, Kira & Odo, Odo & Quark, Bashir & O'Brien, and the rest. And while I understand the real-world implications of cutting Jadzia Dax out of the finale, that also was a bit of a let down. She was a large presence in the show for 6 years.
Overall, top notch writing and a great satisfying ending to DS9. But for the reasons listed above, I gotta give it to TNG.
The less I talk about Endgame and TATV, the better. And TOS....... no..... Just no......
Riker saying "End Program" was the final nail in the coffin for me. That's what prevented us from seeing Archer's much-hyped speech.
Certainly better than WYLB's end scene.
To be fair, I don't think many serieses got finales back then, even when they knew it had ended. I think of TUC as the series finale
Having longer to write something isn't always a good thing. As you can keep going back and changing things sometimes for the better othertimes for the worse.
Hmm. I like all the true finales (Tos doesn't get one unless you count star trek VI, enterprise...well, for those who didn't take to it, TATV does let us pretend the whole thing was just Rikers version of Captain Proton) but voyager gets an edge in that it actually finishes the story. They get home. It's a time travel cheat, but they do get home. Twice.
The others were better in some ways, but Tng isn't really a finale, it caps off a bit with the Q stuff, but we know they are going to movies.
Ds9 also finishes it's story..and has some lovely emotional notes. But overall its 'things change, life goes on' montage also hits the wrong note by leaving too much open. And sisko doesn't really have his arc truly finished, bajor hasn't yet joined the federation, and it sort of ends up being the finale to only the dominion war part of the story, with a smidge of Dukhat and the prophets.
I think the abruptness is there in all the finales...Mars them slightly. There's leaving it open, and then there's 'sod it, seven years is up, that's your hopping pot, gercha' which seems to rear it's head.
Enterprise doesn't get that, because it's basically circled the drain before it found its feet (and in my opinion it never did or would have, it was flawed from inception) but there we go.
Voyager. It has a begining a middle and an end. The fan edit of Endgame that smooths some bits out is really rather good as well.
The others were better in some ways, but Tng isn't really a finale, it caps off a bit with the Q stuff, but we know they are going to movies.
Ds9 also finishes it's story..and has some lovely emotional notes. But overall its 'things change, life goes on' montage also hits the wrong note by leaving too much open. And sisko doesn't really have his arc truly finished, bajor hasn't yet joined the federation, and it sort of ends up being the finale to only the dominion war part of the story, with a smidge of Dukhat and the prophets.
I think the abruptness is there in all the finales...Mars them slightly. There's leaving it open, and then there's 'sod it, seven years is up, that's your hopping pot, gercha' which seems to rear it's head.
Enterprise doesn't get that, because it's basically circled the drain before it found its feet (and in my opinion it never did or would have, it was flawed from inception) but there we go.
Voyager. It has a begining a middle and an end. The fan edit of Endgame that smooths some bits out is really rather good as well.
It all depends on what you want from a finalé in many respects DSN and TNG finalé's are And The Adventure continues....
As for VOY sure they got home, but for me it fell emotional flat, where where the reunions etc... The two-parter before TATV would have been a far more fitting ending for the series.
As for VOY sure they got home, but for me it fell emotional flat, where where the reunions etc... The two-parter before TATV would have been a far more fitting ending for the series.
Yup. That's the abruptness I mention. All the finales needed the equivalent of 'family' after 'best of both worlds' integrated into them. DS9 tried to its credit.
Enterprise needed....something. Maybe they should have Bozemanned their ship somewhere in season three, and had a year of getting up to speed at the academy followed by finding out their existence had been wiped from history and that's why they had to campaign to get included on all model ship packs sent to Picard. (I am joking. I do genuinely think enterprise was just doing a decent job with a really bad idea, combined with some really problematic production choices and a totally changed world around them after 9/11)
Its so funny you mention that about TOS. I edited out a comment I made in which case I reversed my decision. If TUC was the end of TOS, it would rank up there with DS9 and TNG
Despite the facts that DS9 is my favourite Trek series and that I love the Dominion War arc, I voted for TNG. Its seventh season was a bit lacklustre IMO, but the finale was superb. Everything was done perfectly.
This is how I would rank the finales:
1. TNG
2. DS9
3. Voyager
4. TOS
5. ENT
TOS and ENT both ended on a very poor note. "These are the Voyagers" is practically unwatchable to me and "Turnabout Intruder" is one of those late TOS episodes that makes me cringe.
This is how I would rank the finales:
1. TNG
2. DS9
3. Voyager
4. TOS
5. ENT
TOS and ENT both ended on a very poor note. "These are the Voyagers" is practically unwatchable to me and "Turnabout Intruder" is one of those late TOS episodes that makes me cringe.
STAR TREK: The Next Generation had a very strong start & finish, on television. Gene Roddenberry's stamp was all over it. TNG's the best damn STAR TREK ever made ... and "All Good Things" is one of a million reasons why. It's heavy duty stuff ...
Having grown up with TOS. I thought TNG was weak the first few seasons. I mean, c'mon, Ferengi as new villains and a bald Frenchman as Commander of the over-modeled Enterprise D? A direct hit to the fat neck section between the saucer section and lower hull would prevent transport to and from the other sections... and besides, it looked ugly compared to the original Enterprise Refit. Even the engine nacelles looked weak and vulnerable.
But as time went on, I grew fond of TNG and it's crew. I'm partial to the episodes with Picard and Data.
But just when the seasons improved dramatically, the end came...
'All Good Things....' is great in the way that nothing changes dramatically, Enterprise continues its mission like before. There's no feeling of something ending, like for example in DS9, Ben is a prophet, Miles moves to Earth and so on.
And AGT is a GREAT episode, last one or not!
And AGT is a GREAT episode, last one or not!
How is that any different from the neck sections of previous Enterprises?
Enterprise-D's is wider and looks bloated like the broadside of a barn! Look at original NCC-1701 and Refit. Less forward saucer sections too. And Geez, how many windows installed on D? E and J are even worse designs...
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