WTF, TAS getting Blu-Ray and DS9 not?
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I don't think CBS/Paramount have their finger on the pulse of fan desires at all. How can they be so out of touch?
DS9 will probably be the last series to get Blu Ray. Voyager is a better candidate sales wise. DS9s ratings during its original run is a stigma it will never shake with execs.
DS9 will probably be the last series to get Blu Ray. Voyager is a better candidate sales wise. DS9s ratings during its original run is a stigma it will never shake with execs.
There are already HD masters of TAS.
It's nothing to do with fingers on pulses.
All the film elements for the live action in DS9 would have to be located, scanned, digitally cleaned and corrected.
All of the files for the effects shots (it was mainly computer generated, not filmed like TNG) would need to be found or recreated and all of them redone in HD.
All of the live action shots including Odo morphing would need to be redone.
It would all have to be re-edited.
This would almost certainly cost more than the TNG project, which itself didn't sell well. DS9, despite (imho) being the best Trek show, was less popular than TNG.
There's currently no financial justification for doing it.
As far as I know that's not really true. Or it's an overstatement, at most. Deep Space Nine's effects for most of its series run were produced just as they were on The Next Generation: with optical effects done in camera. The vast majority of ship effects were done with physical models, CG models were the exception, not the rule. Also, Odo's morphing effects are such a minor part of the show, that I'm wondering why they are always brought up in these discussions. All in all I'm not convinced, Deep Space Nine would be a bigger remastering endeavour than TNG. I get it, DS9-R would generate fewer sales than TNG, but let's be honest here: It wouldn't be harder to do a remastering.
Did someone do market research? Personally, I'm far more interested in TAS on Blu-ray than DS9 or Voyager.
This comment and the "like" for it depresses me. There really should be a TAS sub forum so this conversation can continue without my knowledge.
Whatever we as a niche market may prefer or want, the fact remains that TPTB have to do almost nothing to release TAS on blu ray. They don't have to invest a significant amount of time or resources for this at all, since it was basically already ready to go. DS9 and VOY are a different story.
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I think it's just the fact that there are people out there that prefer TAS to DS9...
I'm sure there are people out there that prefer lots of other things to DS9. Or TOS or TNG, for that matter.
I'm sure you're right !
This. But I was mostly joking. Mostly.
...but I still think there should be a TAS subforum. That would be fun.
Not exactly. Season 4 is only when they began to do select episodes with a lot of CGI in place of miniatures, ala "Starship Down." M is right on the money when he says the vast majority of ship effects were done with physical models. They didn't switch to entirely replacing models with CGI until Season 6's "Sacrifice of Angels." And even after that, Gary Hutzel's VFX team continued to shoot motion control miniatures on 35mm film until his last supervised show late in Season 7. All told, roughly 20% of DS9's episodes, around 35 or so, use CGI for ships exclusively in place of physical models. Unfortunately I don't remember the exact count, but Digital Muse's David Lombardi and Bruce Branit are credited with a combined 28 DS9 episodes on IMDB from 1997-1999.
As for the re-editing or HD conform of the show from original film elements, that should be much less of a headache than TNG was, as DS9 was made completely in the era of Kodak KeyKode which imprinted a frame specific, digitally-read barcode onto the edge of the o-neg film. This system was specifically implemented to facilitate automated conforms using original film elements. It likely wouldn't be any more difficult than the HD conform of THE X-FILES, which began shooting around the same time, at least for the live-action assembly.
Voyager was a network show and had weaker ratings than DS9.
I know it's dead, but this is the most recent thread, and seems this was missed:
http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/05/deep-space-nine-in-high-definition-one-step-closer/
Paraphrase: the guys that worked on DS9 have all the CGI ships and said it would be pretty easy to upgrade them to HD
http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/05/deep-space-nine-in-high-definition-one-step-closer/
Paraphrase: the guys that worked on DS9 have all the CGI ships and said it would be pretty easy to upgrade them to HD
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