Exactly!I think that when some of us say "fun," we mean "highly entertaining" rather than "silly" or "goofy." Something can be compelling, gripping and entertaining without being comedic.
Exactly!I think that when some of us say "fun," we mean "highly entertaining" rather than "silly" or "goofy." Something can be compelling, gripping and entertaining without being comedic.
At least until the NSA tried to break the Romulan's encryption.
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I honestly think the most notorious "continuity error" in the whole franchise is :
"But yoooooouuuu....I never forget a faaaacce....Missster.......CHEKOV?????? Isn't it?"
And since we have given virtually blanket forgiveness for that massive mis-step, I think everything else can probably slide.
I never saw that as a problem. I just figured Khan and Chekov took a piss next to each other in the never seen Enterprise Men's Room during "Space Seed".![]()
Precisely! If we can create reasonable "back story" to explain this continuity error, we can easily do that for other places as well.
I actually think the explanation that Chekov was a member of the crew all the time is a perfectly reasonable explanation. He may have been the 3rd shift Auxiliary Control guy for all we know...and just never saw him because DeSalle and other random guys were rotating 1st shift navigator. When they realized that Chekov was capable of being a navigator AND backup science officer, he probably got the nod.
Interesting how the "guest of the week" for the ship-board shows was typically the navigator until Chekov joined the crew.
Agreed, though I'm not sure I like "Undine" as a name. But, at least they have a name...sort of.They're commonly referred to as the Undine, though that's non-canonical. No species should being exclusively tagged with the Borg's designation for them. That's' truly pitiful.
I think SF Debris is very reflective, but he will take the opportunity to make ridiculous jokes and poke fun at things and episodes, even if he finds them enjoyable. I mean, his tag line IS "Serious Analysis. Silly Behavior."He's obviously very knowledgeable about the show (and anything else he covers), but he succumbs to sophomoric instincts to continually tag characters, with no real reflection, as just being completed twinned to their popular and ignorant conception. Facetiousness is all well and good, but not so much when it becomes so heavily relied on for easy, facile, shtick..
Maybe he was fourth B-type android Soong built? There would have been three unsuccessful ones before him (and maybe some A-type androids as well.) Thus Lore would have been B-5 before he got his name and Data would have been B-6.
Agreed, though I'm not sure I like "Undine" as a name. But, at least they have a name...sort of.
Yeah, that's why I said "sort of." Obvious, their name is not canon. We "non-fluidic space" aliens are not allowed to know their name or even speak it.The name "Undine" is only used in ST Online. The rest of the litverse still calls them Species 8472.
Um, one would think the viewers would be similar across the different shows. And. It's still his opinion. which he can certainly share. Let's not make him a scapegoat for VOY's problems.
Nope, didn't see that.
Yes, because no one had a negative reaction to Kirk's death. That was not controversial at all
No, it's not. If that were the case then ENT and Abrams Trek would be accepted without a peep, since we already have our whipping show.
Does that mean I have to listen to their preaching or agree with it? Or, do I just have the right to call them on their hypocrisy and not pay to listen to it?
Sure. Doesn't make him the spokesperson, or the authority on the subject. Just means that he is prolific in his work, and is easy to refer to. I see CinemaSins often referred to as well, but that doesn't make it the authority on filmmaking.He's the number one guy anyone points to when they say the entire show was a catastrophe.
I still see hostility towards TMP, TWOK and ENT, and especially Abrams Trek.I did, and still do.
Depends on who you ask.They accepted it, though.
LOL-no, not even close. Abrams Trek still gets derided, and Abrams mocked.Nowadays, both are more accepted.
Um, no. The show never called out itself on its own hypocrisy. The TNG crew were happy looking down on the 20th century humanity, though it was toned down far more after the early seasons.Seeing that's what the show itself did...
Thinking on this... Probably one of the most notorious, in that it's never been explained to my knowledge, is McCoy's reference in "The Conscience of the King" to Vulcan being conquered.I honestly think the most notorious "continuity error" in the whole franchise is :
"But yoooooouuuu....I never forget a faaaacce....Missster.......CHEKOV?????? Isn't it?"
And since we have given virtually blanket forgiveness for that massive mis-step, I think everything else can probably slide.
Precisely! If we can create reasonable "back story" to explain this continuity error, we can easily do that for other places as well.
Sure. Doesn't make him the spokesperson, or the authority on the subject. Just means that he is prolific in his work, and is easy to refer to.
I still see hostility towards TMP, TWOK and ENT, and especially Abrams Trek.
LOL-no, not even close. Abrams Trek still gets derided, and Abrams mocked.
Um, no. The show never called out itself on its own hypocrisy. The TNG crew were happy looking down on the 20th century humanity, though it was toned down far more after the early seasons.
Nowadays, both are more accepted.
Then perhaps you should be arguing against the Fandom and telling them not to take his word as Gospel...whomever that is.To the point that the Fandom takes his word as Gospel.
I know a number of "TOSers" who would disagree. Please stop painting with such a broad brush about these groups. It is not a unified whole.It's mainly passed for those other ones, but Abrams gets it mainly because they see too much "modern" stuff in his approach. And TOSers have always disliked modernity.
Um, also incorrect. One of the most ardent detractors of the film I know of is a friend who works in the film industry and works on modern film projects.Mainly by those who just dislike Modern Film in general.
So, I shouldn't be offended because it's been done by others? That makes it ok?Just like people today are happy to look down on their own ancestors, without anyone realizing that maybe in the future people will do the same to them.
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