Marvel/Netflix Daredevil season 2.
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Reviews of the first seven episode are out: Overall they are very positive, especially towards the new additions (Punisher/Elektra), but seemingly the issues I had with the first season (pacing, speechifying) are still there, yet the positives (Supporting characters/fights/mystery/Engaging crime drama) seem to outweigh them again.
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/daredevil/39084/daredevil-season-2-spoiler-free-review
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/...2-review-punisher-elektra-netflix-1201703745/
http://nerdrepository.com/tv-review-marvels-daredevil-season-2/
I've only skimmed them, so be wary of spoilers!!
Sounds like the loss of Goddard/DeKnight was not to be feared (at least for the first 7 episodes)
Hugo - will not be "half-measuring" this show
http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/daredevil/39084/daredevil-season-2-spoiler-free-review
http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/...2-review-punisher-elektra-netflix-1201703745/
http://nerdrepository.com/tv-review-marvels-daredevil-season-2/
I've only skimmed them, so be wary of spoilers!!
Sounds like the loss of Goddard/DeKnight was not to be feared (at least for the first 7 episodes)
Hugo - will not be "half-measuring" this show
I honestly didn't find any pacing problems in Daredevil. Yeah the first two episodes were a little on the slow side but once the attack on Hell's kitchen happened (Was that episode 4?), things picked up in a major way.
I liked the more deliberate pacing of season 1 compared to modern network shows that have to rush everything so they can cram it into the increasingly short intervals between commercials. It was more like the TV of the '60s and '70s, when there was room to have lengthy, in-depth dialogue scenes.
Yeah. When you're watching something on netflix, it's more of a movie than it is a TV show and you can afford to do more world building than a show on a network trying to gain an audience. One of the things that struck me about Daredevil was we really got to know the characters in the first few episodes, then it set up for the big attack, and I was completely sucked in. I enjoyed that development because in the long run, that development means a lot more when the action comes rather than action first development later.
Jessica Jones was the same way. The first few episodes were kind of a slow build, leaving Kilgrave a mystery for a few episodes until we can really dive in to the more meaty parts.
My overall issue with the pacing was it felt like 10 episodes of plot stretched out to 13.
I'm a big fan of slow and measured TV shows (The Wire / Breaking Bad / Mad Men / The Americans), but there were far too many stilted dialogue driven moments in the first season for my liking. I can listen/watch two-three people simply engage with each other across a table IF the dialogue/emotion is there to rivet me (See Thee Men & Adena from Homicide: Life on the Streets). Daredevil, though better than most shows in building its characters from the ground up, still didn't deliver on this aspect for me on multiple occasions.
It was a strong show, distinctive in its look and style, with a nice undercurrent of sardonic humour and a genuinely unique TV villain. It wasn't perfect though, and from the reviews, the one thing that has me concerned is that some of the character back and forth might not be as dynamic as the remainder of what is on offer.
I hope they are wrong as everything they have lined up in the show (Punisher / The Hand / Elektra / Triad / Ongoing Lawyer Stuff / Love Story-triangle?) appears to show a wealth of worthy material. Just depends which bits are engaging and which bits are not.
Hugo - Think of the man you wanna be. You sit here and you stare at that wall and you think about that. You're my son. You should be a king, not some fat little pussy.
I'm a big fan of slow and measured TV shows (The Wire / Breaking Bad / Mad Men / The Americans), but there were far too many stilted dialogue driven moments in the first season for my liking. I can listen/watch two-three people simply engage with each other across a table IF the dialogue/emotion is there to rivet me (See Thee Men & Adena from Homicide: Life on the Streets). Daredevil, though better than most shows in building its characters from the ground up, still didn't deliver on this aspect for me on multiple occasions.
It was a strong show, distinctive in its look and style, with a nice undercurrent of sardonic humour and a genuinely unique TV villain. It wasn't perfect though, and from the reviews, the one thing that has me concerned is that some of the character back and forth might not be as dynamic as the remainder of what is on offer.
I hope they are wrong as everything they have lined up in the show (Punisher / The Hand / Elektra / Triad / Ongoing Lawyer Stuff / Love Story-triangle?) appears to show a wealth of worthy material. Just depends which bits are engaging and which bits are not.
Hugo - Think of the man you wanna be. You sit here and you stare at that wall and you think about that. You're my son. You should be a king, not some fat little pussy.
What stands out for me in DD season 1 is that great scene between Matt and Father Lantom discussing the nature of evil and the theology of the Devil. That's the kind of novelistic, thought-provoking, philosophical discussion you could never get on commercial TV today, because there just wouldn't be room for it. It's kind of the intellectual equivalent of the corridor fight.
This was one of those moments where the show got it right and I was happy to see shots of Matt and Fr Lantom in the S2 trailers. Scenes like this, young Foggy and Matt sat on the college steps, Karen and Wesley one-on-one, all not only informed on the characters but helped build the shows varying tones and shades. I hope for me like these.
Yes. I learned something. A good exchange between two people who dared evil.
That's pretty cool.
I've been wanting to rewatch Season 1 to prepare for Season 2, but its hard to get into. Season 1 is very good, but it is like a 13 hour long movie and knowing how slow it starts its hard to start it again since I know what's going to happen. I've stopped twice on the opening confessional scene. I'll probably end up powering through it before Season 2 though, because while I remember it I do want a refresher.
I've been wanting to rewatch Season 1 to prepare for Season 2, but its hard to get into. Season 1 is very good, but it is like a 13 hour long movie and knowing how slow it starts its hard to start it again since I know what's going to happen. I've stopped twice on the opening confessional scene. I'll probably end up powering through it before Season 2 though, because while I remember it I do want a refresher.
And, as far as I know, it's the first time that we've seen for sure that Frank Castle will wear the skull emblem on his chest.
A more complete look at Joe Bernthal as The Punisher.
Clever design. It's some sort of flak jacket, and he's painted it to create a skull motif that follows its lines. I doubt they found an off-the-rack item that had that pattern to it already, though.
Looks like it could possibly have been splashed with something and coincidentally dried that way.
I still haven't finished out Season 1 yet, I'll have to get working on that.
I still haven't finished out Season 1 yet, I'll have to get working on that.
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