*Spoilers* U.S.S. Franklin Design?

[Kemaiku]

I wonder how many gazelles Archer could see through his window?

I'd rather know why the entire starboard half of the ship isn't visible. Especially since the starboard catamaran would act like a metal hill he couldn't see over. I mean his Ready Room window, I know his quarters are on the rim of the saucer.

But his ready room one, when some fans started rendering their own NX-01 model, they showed what the view would be from that window, and...there wasn't one.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I'd rather know why the entire starboard half of the ship isn't visible. Especially since the starboard catamaran would act like a metal hill he couldn't see over. I mean his Ready Room window, I know his quarters are on the rim of the saucer.

But his ready room one, when some fans started rendering their own NX-01 model, they showed what the view would be from that window, and...there wasn't one.

Oops. Those fans - they ruin everything.

 

[Richard Baker]

Windows in lit rooms today appear as mirrors but that is mostly due to the reflective surface. I doubt the 'windows' on a Trek ship are made of anything like glass and have interesting properties such as blocking harmful radiation and enhancing the brightness of what is seen outside the hull.
The Enterprise D had some weirdness with the window. In 'Generations' during the saucer landing the leading of the rim, covered in windows, directly struck the planet's surface, shearing off a hilltop, without even cracking. The 'windows' above the bridge and above Dr. Crusher shattered into shards without being struck by anything.

On a side note the Disney Cruise line is adding virtual windows to cabins further inside the hull. A passenger will see what is passing by the ship using a HDTV monitor set into their wall and a HD camera placed in the appropriate location on the outer hull.

 

[thumbtack]

It's a window and a viewer, isn't it? I don't think it's in straight window mode very often.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Well, most likely, yeah. All the big bridge windows in NuTrek seem to have a HUD capability, which makes sense.

 

[Tai]

I'm just happy it has some design features in common with the NX-01.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

According to the episode "In Theory", the windows of the Enterprise-D are made of transparent aluminum.

Continuity in Star Trek is very loosey-goosey. So, it's no surprise that the windows on the bridge would shatter. I would say the destruction was for dramatic purposes.

 

[Pindar]

Has anyone mentioned the massive row of windows at the back of the Ent-D that look into Picards Ready room?
They are just as stupid as having the a big window at the front but no-one ever complains about them.

 

[Timo]

It's an interesting question as such: does somebody in Starfleet think that windows are stupid as a concept? All the ships have plenty of those, everywhere, and for a variety of reasons (for peering out out one's cabin, for whatever the bright idea of providing an arboretum with optical access to space, for looking ahead while piloting, for monitoring shuttle operations, etc.). Some ships just happen to have skylights on top of saucers, some have portholes on saucer rims, and others have windshields on the bridge, while other ships skip said features, in various combinations. It really doesn't seem as if there would be anything structurally/tactically/aesthetically wrong with the concept of windows in the Star Trek universe.

Oh, and just to nitpick, on the Ent-D, it's the set they (somewhat accidentally) call Observation Lounge, not Picard's Ready Room...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[starburst]

It's an interesting question as such: does somebody in Starfleet think that windows are stupid as a concept? All the ships have plenty of those, everywhere, and for a variety of reasons (for peering out out one's cabin, for whatever the bright idea of providing an arboretum with optical access to space, for looking ahead while piloting, for monitoring shuttle operations, etc.). Some ships just happen to have skylights on top of saucers, some have portholes on saucer rims, and others have windshields on the bridge, while other ships skip said features, in various combinations. It really doesn't seem as if there would be anything structurally/tactically/aesthetically wrong with the concept of windows in the Star Trek universe.

Oh, and just to nitpick, on the Ent-D, it's the set they (somewhat accidentally) call Observation Lounge, not Picard's Ready Room...

Timo Saloniemi

This is exactly my point of view.

Even though its an odd change seeming that view screens were used both before and after the time of the Kelvin in the "prime" timeline its not like the view screen was used as much more than a window anyway; yes we can magnify images, have facetime chats, throw up tactical displays and infographics etc etc but you can with the HUD style we see on the Enterprise and Kelvin. In fact the window with a HUD is alot more practical that the viewscreen has been shown to be in the past for the most part as it acts as more than a window but this time its actually a window.

I have always thought that was a let down of the traditional viewscreen; unless they are showing us a tactical display like in the STII simulator or showing the position of the Enterprise and Reliant around Regula One they just showed what was right in front of the ship just like a window would. Really things like the ships current stats (speed, shield strength etc) could be shown there for quick reference though that would be available at other stations and even to the Captain depending on the ship.

 

[BillJ]

I loved how they handle the viewscreen in the Abrams movies.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Interesting thing about the Franklin we've been seeing - the Eaglemoss guy ("Ben") who selects and processes ship designs for the Official Starships Collection had a few interesting hints in a recent interview about both the Franklin and Nu-Enterprise:

Perhaps among the most anticipated ships that will definitely be on the way this year are those from Star Trek Beyond. Ben has previously mentioned he has already seen three designs from the film, and following the reveal of the USS Franklin (which he noted that "the finished ship looks a little different") he mentioned the Enterprise is one of them - Given Eaglemoss have already done the nuTrek Enterprise, hopefully this wont be a reissue with minor changes... maybe a post-crash refit, or surely not an Enterprise-A already?

 

[F. King Daniel]

If they don't end the movie with the crew getting a new Enterprise to complete their 5-year mission, I'll be surprised.

 

[Pindar]

Oh, and just to nitpick, on the Ent-D, it's the set they (somewhat accidentally) call Observation Lounge, not Picard's Ready Room...

Timo Saloniemi

So it is. I should have remembered that.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

I'd rather know why the entire starboard half of the ship isn't visible. Especially since the starboard catamaran would act like a metal hill he couldn't see over. I mean his Ready Room window, I know his quarters are on the rim of the saucer.

But his ready room one, when some fans started rendering their own NX-01 model, they showed what the view would be from that window, and...there wasn't one.

This has been a problem for literally EVERY STARSHIP SINCE THE ENTERPRISE-D.

The observation lounge windows overlook the main shuttlebay; there SHOULD be a largish landscape-type thing out of those windows showing the rear arc of the saucer and the warp nacelles. Picard's ready room, also, sits on top of a relatively flat surface that should be totally obvious from right outside the window, but even in "Best of Both Worlds" the scene looks like the window is on a vertical wall with absolutely nothing beneath it.

The windows on Voyager's mess hall are recessed into the hull, but the recess isn't visible and neither is the hull directly beneath it. Same for the conference room and Janeway's ready room (and both cases, the curve of the bridge dome should be visible from most angles).

My headcanon has always preferred to treat the windows as ports for sensors, telescopes and scientific instruments to look out into space (although a handful of them are left empty and the crew just uses them as, you know, windows). That would mean the windows we see in TNG+ are not actually windows but viewscreens, and that would make a certain amount of sense to me.

 

[Kemaiku]

This has been a problem for literally EVERY STARSHIP SINCE THE ENTERPRISE-D.

Yes, I know. Tone it down.

 

[Saul]

If they don't end the movie with the crew getting a new Enterprise to complete their 5-year mission, I'll be surprised.

But why would they design a new ship for the end of the movie?
The next film might have a new director and creative team that wouldn't want their hands tied by that. Also, if you're gonna introduce a new ship you'd want to see what she could do instead of being cock teased.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But why would they design a new ship for the end of the movie?

I doubt there will be time during the actual main storyline to introduce a new Enterprise. Not so soon after the previous one's destruction, anyway.

Most likely the new ship will either appear in the final scene of STB (like how the Ent-A was introduced in ST IV) or the opening scene of the next one (like the Ent-B in Generations).

 

[shapeshifter]

I think leaving the new ship introduction until the start of ST4 is the way to go. Leave them wanting more... and all that.

 

[Mr. Nova]

This has been a problem for literally EVERY STARSHIP SINCE THE ENTERPRISE-D.

The observation lounge windows overlook the main shuttlebay; there SHOULD be a largish landscape-type thing out of those windows showing the rear arc of the saucer and the warp nacelles. Picard's ready room, also, sits on top of a relatively flat surface that should be totally obvious from right outside the window, but even in "Best of Both Worlds" the scene looks like the window is on a vertical wall with absolutely nothing beneath it.

The windows on Voyager's mess hall are recessed into the hull, but the recess isn't visible and neither is the hull directly beneath it. Same for the conference room and Janeway's ready room (and both cases, the curve of the bridge dome should be visible from most angles).

My headcanon has always preferred to treat the windows as ports for sensors, telescopes and scientific instruments to look out into space (although a handful of them are left empty and the crew just uses them as, you know, windows). That would mean the windows we see in TNG+ are not actually windows but viewscreens, and that would make a certain amount of sense to me.

Except there are more than one scene in Voyager where the windows are obviously just windows. One is the final scene of the episode where Kes leaves and Tuvok is shown placing his lamp in the window shown from outside the ship. Another is a zoom-in from outside to Janeway's ready room, though I'm not sure which episode that was.