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The Cogenitor

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I watched this last night. I did a search for this title, but just got back results for avatar contests.

What are some thoughts about this episode? I think Trip probably shouldn't have interfered in the first place, but once the damage was done, was Archer right to deny the person asylum?
 
In hindsight he made the wrong choice since the cogenitor killed itself and left the couple without the chance to have a baby. I wonder if the cogenitor carried the baby or something?
 
In hindsight he made the wrong choice since the cogenitor killed itself

I hate to sound harsh, but that was the cogenitor's choice. Archer didn't force anything. All he did was send 'Charles' back home, as was his absolute right to do.

Like I said, Archer made the right choice. Cogenitors are very rare, yet are absolutely essential to Vissian reproduction. If he deprives them of one, the results could mean disaster. And thanks to Trip, probably still will.

And why should Archer have granted Charles asylum in the first place? There were no grounds for him to do so. The cogenitor was perfectly content with its lot until Trip started filling its head with propaganda. Trip might have thought that the cogenitor was being abused, but he has no right to judge. Why do you think there will one day be a Prime Directive? To prevent exactly this sort of catastrophe from happening.

So when Archer royally tears Trip a new one at the end of the episode, I clearly believe that Trip fucking DESERVED it. The cogenitor is DEAD because of him. In essence, Trip killed it. Let him live with that on his conscience for the rest of his life. Archer should have demoted his ass to Ensign, but maybe this is worse punishment.

Actually, there is one conversation between Trip and T'Pol which nicely encapsulates the entire episode:

Trip: This is a question of...human rights.
T'Pol: They're not human.


and left the couple without the chance to have a baby. I wonder if the cogenitor carried the baby or something?

Cogenitors supply an enzyme required for procreation, but they don't contribute genetically to the actual child. So it's probably the females who carry the babies.
 
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So when Archer royally tears Trip a new one at the end of the episode, I clearly believe that Trip fucking DESERVED it. The cogenitor is DEAD because of him. In essence, Trip killed it. Let him live with that on his conscience for the rest of his life. Archer should have demoted his ass to Ensign, but maybe this is worse punishment.

Maybe Archer would have been right if he behaved that way before. Spoiler alert: he didn't. He rescues prisoners in Detained, refugees in Judgment and Raijin. But somehow, he refuses to ever consider the possibility that Charles might need help because of a few hours of joyriding with the Vissian captain. I guess first impressions are extremely important. Doesn't Archer have a part in her death too? Why is Trip the only one who has to be the bad guy from intervening in other species' business? This episode really highlights the inconsistent writing of Archer (and to lesser extent, T'Pol). I don't think it's a bad story, but his world class hypocrisy overshadows everything else. I wanted to smack him upside the head.

The situation isn't black-and-white issue but I'm not sure it came across well. To me, character consistency was sacrificed for the idea of "we need the Prime Directive." I didn't really think of it the first time I watched but I'm not sure if Trip would have been that naive at this point. The timing would have been better if it was season 1. You're the first person, I encountered who thinks Archer was 100% correct. If you have time on your hands, you can glean other thoughts on the episode.

http://trek.fm/from-there-to-here/25
http://triaxiansilk.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2198
http://www.thedelphicexpanse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3444

Like I said, Archer made the right choice. Cogenitors are very rare, yet are absolutely essential to Vissian reproduction. If he deprives them of one, the results could mean disaster. And thanks to Trip, probably still will.

Do we really know that treating them as better than dirt means ZERO cogenitors will help couples have kids?
 
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^ It is not the humans' place to judge whether or not the cogenitor's treatment by the rest of the Vissians, qualifies as "dirt". The Vissians are not human. Their standards are not human standards.
 
There are several issues at play with the Cogenitor situation:

1) Cogenitors' place in the Vissian society
The excuse of the Vissians being alien is only valid if the reason for the subjugation of the Cogenitors is biological. But the example of "Charles" indicates that it is not. It is able to learn and think, so it would seem it is a societal issue - which is a big "no-no" for an advanced society.
Would you be alright with the Vissians if their population were to be 94% male and 6% female and the females were to be handled as chattel? Would you still use the "they are aliens" excuse?
It is lamentable that we do not know more about the Vissian society. After all if a Cogenitor is not allowed do read, learn, just what does it do with its free time - when the couple is not trying to procreate? Why is there no Cogenitor guild or religious order?

2) Trip's intervention
Truthfully, I am with Trip on this one. The Vissian behavior is wrong. But perhaps we are missing a piece of the puzzle.

3) Archer and asylum in Earth space
I understand Archer's decision, it was simple realpolitik. To gain an important trade partner Archer sacrificed an individual.
On the other hand, from the point of law, Archer should have granted the asylum, because "human" rights were being violated. As Earth is granting the asylum, I believe it should be humans standards and human interpretations that are to be considered, even if it the asylum seeker comes from an alien society.
After all would you refuse asylum to a slave if he came from a country depending on slave labor?

4) Archer and Trip
Now here it was wrong for Archer to reprimand Trip, for "Charles"'s death as Trip had the moral high ground. But I think that he was just lashing out, becouse he himself knew that he sacrificed the Cogenitor and it still led to its death and strained relations between Earth and Vissia.
 
It would seem that because cogenitors are so rare, they really don't have any free time. They are always busy providing reproductive services to as many couples as they can. Why is this? It's not because of "subjugation" or "oppression", it's simply due to numbers. Cogenitors are busy because they literally must be. The Vissians would be extinct without them.

And it's also important to point out that, even assuming that humans have the right to determine what qualifies as "subjugation" in a society with values that are alien to them (I mean, what if some smartass alien told you that you were "subjugating" your car, or your computer, or your Siri?), that ALL cogenitors are treated the same as this one was. This is by no means certain. Perhaps this one Vissian couple was just particularly snooty?

Why is there no Cogenitor guild or religious order?

Who knows? Maybe there is. We only saw the perspective of this one starship's crew. Once it returns home, who's to say what the cogenitor would normally have done? It's entirely possible that cogenitors do have some sort of a support system. We never saw the Vissian homeworld, so we have absolutely no idea.

The Vissian behavior is wrong.

What gives you the right to judge that?

After all would you refuse asylum to a slave if he came from a country depending on slave labor?

That's a good point, but in that case, no I would not. Assuming you are only talking about humans here. Human values - in this case, that slavery is inherently evil - are universal within the human species, but aliens can't be held to those same standards.

I mean, what do you think would have happened if (to use DS9 as an example) the Federation had intervened in the Cardassian occupation of Bajor? Do you think they should have done that?
 
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I agree that a deeper insight into the Vissiaan society would be a tremendous help. After all if we knew how the Cogenitor place in society evolved over time, or how recent the 3% ratio is we could draw clear conclusions. The same would be true if we had a larger sample than one.
Also there is the procreation issue. Is a Cogenitor only a Vissian viagra? Just how much exposure to the enzyme is necessary? Is it long term (a gradual build up), or only during intercourse? Can several couples share a Cogenitor? Is group sex more frequent in the Vissian society?

It would seem that because cogenitors are so rare, they really don't have any free time. They are always busy providing reproductive services to as many couples as they can. Why is this? It's not because of "subjugation" or "oppression", it's simply due to numbers. Cogenitors are busy because they literally must be. The Vissians would be extinct without them.

I do not think this is quite true. If it were a question of effectiveness, then no Cogenitors would be allowed to leave the planet, as there are more pairs to be "pollinated" there. But this is not what happened, "Charles" was assigned to one couple. So what exactly was "Charles" doing in its free time?
I concur that Cogenitors with several couples would have their time watched and scheduled so it is possible that they truly do not have any free time.

Also what about young Cogenitors? What do Cogenitors do before their "puberty"/before they start to produce the enzyme?
Actually this could be a likely explanation, if a Cogenitor starts to produce the enzyme at an equivalent of 5 years of age, then they truly would be utilized as soon and as much as possible. And "Charles" would have been the one unique Cogenitor, who had some free time for the first time.


And it's also important to point out that, even assuming that humans have the right to determine what qualifies as "subjugation" in a society with values that are alien to them (I mean, what if some smartass alien told you that you were "subjugating" your car, or your computer, or your Siri?), that ALL cogenitors are treated the same as this one was. This is by no means certain. Perhaps this one Vissian couple was just particularly snooty?

This is why I am still on the fence when it comes to A.I. rights.


Who knows? Maybe there is. We only saw the perspective of this one starship's crew. Once it returns home, who's to say what the cogenitor would normally have done? It's entirely possible that cogenitors do have some sort of a support system. We never saw the Vissian homeworld, so we have absolutely no idea.

I would say that the religious order is out, otherwise "Charles" would have told Trip so. The guild would indicate compensation.
Although, what happens to Cogenitors after "menopause"?


What gives you the right to judge that?

I am free to judge the Vissians, the Vissians are free to judge me. :devil:

It is just, that I would expect more from an advanced society. Is the only reason why the Cogenitors are not allowed to reach their full potential their usage in procreation?
Why then not just "milk" them for the enzyme? Where is the
syntactical enzyme? What about cloning the Cogenitors, after all they do no provide any genetic material to the child.


That's a good point, but in that case, no I would not. Assuming you are only talking about humans here. Human values - in this case, that slavery is inherently evil - are universal
within the human species, but aliens can't be held to those same standards.


Aliens are human too. ;)

Also I would not consider slavery in itself as inherently evil, in humans or in aliens. How new slaves are acquired (rape or born) and how slaves are handled (understand mistreated) should be seen as evil.
But I digress, it is just that that I disagree with the easy excuse of them being aliens.
It is not a question of species or biology. As would be the case with Orions, where the female pheromones would establish a clear social hierarchy.
But with the Vissians as with the humans it is a question of society - so a culture clash, where the moral superiority is subjective.
Think what the Vissian society of the 23rd century, where all 3 genders are equal, would say about the unenlightened times up to the 22nd century. :shrug:


I mean, what do you think would have happened if (to use DS9 as an example) the Federation had intervened in the Cardassian occupation of Bajor? Do you think they should have done that?
They could not have. Do not forget that Bajor is next door to Cardassia. An assault on Bajor by Starfleet would be met by almost the whole Cardassian fleet.
But if the Federation had taken the Cardassian War seriously, it would not have been impossible. Or at least they ought to have given support to the Bajoran resistance. By the way, a victory at Bajor would mean a victory over Cardassia.
 
I find this episode painful to watch, because it's like a slow-motion car crash.
Trip's position is easy to understand. Archer is trying to fill the role of diplomat (he's the closest thing Earth has to an ambassador), and effective diplomacy means non-interference with sovereign powers. Interfering can arouse hostility and make the original problem worse.
The specific question of asylum is tricky: I don't know how these things are generally decided, but I think either you'd need a general policy in place, or else each case would be examined as it arose. It's very unlikely that Archer has been vested with any powers in this regard.
I like that Archer is obviously unhappy about the position he finds himself in. He's not unsympathetic to the cogenitor, but his position requires him to make hard decisions, including reprimanding his best friend for an act of kindness. The script doesn't spell it out, but it's there in the performance.

Maybe Archer would have been right if he behaved that way before. Spoiler alert: he didn't. He rescues prisoners in Detained, refugees in Judgment and Raijin.
Archer was a prisoner himself in Detained. Archer might have tried for a diplomatic solution in Judgment, but the Klingons had no patience. Rajiin was season 3.
 
Trip's intervention
Truthfully, I am with Trip on this one. The Vissian behavior is wrong. But perhaps we are missing a piece of the puzzle.

While I agree with Trip that Charles was mistreated, his intervention was a bad idea. Both he and the audience are missing a piece of the puzzle. Intervening in different human cultures can be a tricky prospect (see Vietnam and Iraq), doing it for alien cultures is a landmine. As a general rule, positive change should come from within the culture.

Archer might have tried for a diplomatic solution in Judgment, but the Klingons had no patience. Rajiin was season 3.

Like Charles, the Suliban in Detained don't think they need help until they're convinced otherwise. Also, what made those refugees more worthy of help than Charles? Granted Archer had previous negative experiences with the Klingons but still. Why do Vissian values get priority over Klingon ones? And for him to rescue Raijin after dressing Trip down for something similar, makes Archer look worse.
 
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the episode was hideously under cut by
how obvious it was that things were going to go so very wrong
as soon as trip starts befriending her/him

we have seen trek before you know, mr writer
 
I just re watched this episode and it is does bother me.
The Vissians clearly hold the Cogenitor as a second class citizen, if not an outright slave. It's a horrible treatment of a sentient being, used only for sex and pro creation. Charles is a sex slave, dehumanized not to even have a name.
Tripp was right to try to help, and Archer was wrong to not help because it was inconvienient to his diplomacy.
This was obviously a social metaphor for oppressed minorites, and that makes the suicide ending all the more depressing.
What exactly was the message of this episode? Don't help people in need, they'll just commit suicide?
 
I just re watched this episode and it is does bother me.
The Vissians clearly hold the Cogenitor as a second class citizen, if not an outright slave. It's a horrible treatment of a sentient being, used only for sex and pro creation. Charles is a sex slave, dehumanized not to even have a name.
Tripp was right to try to help, and Archer was wrong to not help because it was inconvienient to his diplomacy.
This was obviously a social metaphor for oppressed minorites, and that makes the suicide ending all the more depressing.
What exactly was the message of this episode? Don't help people in need, they'll just commit suicide?

I think you're absolutely right. They made the wrong choices and sent the wrong message on this one. Something they did often on ENT. The really suck at tackling social problems. The cogenitor was clearly a victim, just like the women that are beaten and dehumanized in some countries. Trip's indignation was right and moral, Acher's reaction was inappropriate and inhuman.
 
Yeah, I didn't care for Cogenitor either. Here's my review of it:

2-22 Cogenitor

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And so we have arrived at Cogenitor, one of the most overrated episodes on all of Enterprise. Why it usually gets such high praise as it gets is beyond me. While not bad in the sense that A Night in Sickbay was bad, it nevertheless doesn't rank very high on my scale, mainly because of how the subject matter offends me. The underlying "message" of the episode is certainly not one that I would subscribe to, and to think that this is what goes for Trek morality makes me feel rather uneasy. It's the same kind of issue I have with Dear Doctor from the first season. Granted, the episode is well crafted and it presents an intriguing moral dilemma, but I cannot for the life of me look beyond the resolution.

Here we have a new species, the Vissians, that turns out not to be bi-gendered but that has a third gender, the cogenitors, that practically serves as sex-slaves and are treated as nothing more than inanimate objects that are tossed around to whatever couple that needs them to conceive a child. But the cogenitors are no less intelligent than the male and female Vissians. While presenting this fact, the episode concludes that "we" have no real right to judge them and to interfere with their culture. Riiiight. This is the kind of thinking that allows you to look the other way when women are being oppressed in a lot of Middle Eastern cultures, or when genocidal madness grips certain areas of the globe. Thanks, but no thanks! I will never support this kind of reasoning.

I suppose this is another one of Enterprise's attempts at showing how the prime directive of later Treks evolved (as was the aforementioned Dear Doctor). It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone then, that I'm not a big fan of this general order, and I never have been, especially how that rule was implemented in the 24th century. At least Kirk had the decency to ignore it whenever he felt it was prudent. While a certain amount of caution is to be advised when you're dealing with alien cultures, there is such a thing as right and wrong. I'm definitely not a moral relativist. I do believe there are certain universal rights. In the Trek universe one may not say just human rights - in Cogenitor T'Pol does point out that the Vissians aren't humans - but I'd like to think that there are "sentients' rights", for lack of a better term. The kind of rights I'd like to see being the foundation for what will eventually become the United Federation of Planets. I don't care if that is viewed as a human-centric outlook, especially if the alternative leads to morally bankrupt consequences.

So yes, I firmly believe that Trip was right in doing what he did when he befriended the cogenitor and learned him/her/it to read. And Archer was (literally, as it unfortunately turned out) dead wrong in refusing to grant the cogenitor asylum. Sure, Trip was a bit naïve and probably went about it the wrong way, but his heart was in the right place. He saw just the person, Charles (as the cogenitor named himself/herself/itself), not the culture, not the species, not the gender, and not the "supposed" place Charles had in Vissian society. While some may say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, that is also, if not more so, true of the non-interference approach. Yes, interfering in a culture's "natural development" (whatever that means) can be fraught with dangers, but so can definitely standing by the wayside be, allowing oppression, genocides or natural disasters to occur.

To add insult to injury, Cogenitor also offers one of the worst portrayals of Archer we've ever seen on Enterprise, which is no small feat considering how bad the character has been treated overall. Here he comes off as a complete asshole. Hypocritical just begins to descibe it. When he starts to fiercely chew out poor Trip, especially after he tells his chief engineer that Charles has committed suicide rather than to keep living in slavery, I cringe every time. All the blame is put on Trip's shoulders and Archer hasn't a nice thing to say to someone who is supposed to be his friend, and a grieving friend at that.

Perhaps it is Archer's own guilt speaking, since Trip firmly, and rightly, believes that he's done no different than Archer would've done. Archer sure has meddled before whenever it had struck his whim. But now this incident has blown up in his face and while he at one point says "You did exactly what I'd do? If that's true, then I've done a pretty lousy job setting an example around here" (duh!) he refuses to admit his own culpability. But that's right, Archer's actions will never be shown to come back to haunt him or bite him in the ass, since he's supposed to be this "hero captain". But it's perfectly fine to have it happen to another character, because Archer is the bestest! Urgh! I also hated how Trip took all this in such a self-depreciating manner. As someone said, it's like abuse victims who believe every crap their abusers throw at them, while they keep getting beaten up. Dammit Trip, you were right and your bloody captain was wrong!

Cogenitor also marks what I see as an effective end to the close friendship between Archer and Trip, and that isn't surprising. While the events therein aren't mentioned again, as is all too common in episodic television, you can't help notice that they're usually not on such buddy/buddy terms after this episode as they were before. And only a few episodes later we're deep into the Expanse, where Archer effectively shuts himself off from everyone.

The way the episode played out, it felt that Archer was more upset that Trip had ruined an otherwise great first contact situation. While Trip was befriending Charles, Archer was befriending the Vissian captain Drennik, safely away from the rest for a few days in a Vissian stratopod closely observing a hypergiant star (which had some great visuals). Those were some really nice scenes and the late Andreas Katsulas (R.I.P.) was great as Drennik. But there lurked some darker facets underneath the Vissians otherwise friendly exterior. I'm willing to concede that apart from the way they treated their cogenitors, they might have a very decent society, but that doesn't mitigate the appalling way in which they treat them. But Archer seems more upset at having been forced to learn this fact than about the fact itself. And after he's been totally mesmerized by all the nifty Vissian technology he's seen, when he refuses to grant Charles asylum, it comes off as if he's more interested in not jeopardising the future possibility of getting his hands on said technology, than helping a fellow sentient being.

The episode also suffers from a totally unnecessary subplot about how Malcolm Reed flirts with a Vissian woman - or perhaps it is the other way around. Since there are a lot of narrative holes in the main story, one has to wonder why it was felt a need to put this quite silly storyline in the episode? For example, it would've been much better if the viewers got to learn what eventually motivated Archer do deny Charles asylum. And there was the same problem in Dear Doctor, when we never learned why Archer made the decision he made. The common theme in both instances, at least how I see it, is that he made the wrong decisions. I suppose it is hard to come up with good reasons, or convincing ones at any rate, for someone to make wrong decisions. So this perfectly underlines my objections to both episodes.

A minor nit, especially after all the above, is that I have a hard time wrapping myself around the concept of tri-gendered reproduction - that according to Phlox needs the enzymes from the third sex to facilitate conception. It seems unnecessarily complicated, and frankly a way that one would think evolution would try to stay well clear of. The advantages of bi-gendered reproduction is quite obvious (oh not that, you pervs…), even if it is more complex than asexual reproduction, but it is hard to see any additional advantages to having a third sex involved (let alone a fourth, as some fans have speculated the Andorians have).

Wasn't there anything I liked about Cogenitor? Well, I mentioned the Archer/Drennik scenes and I thought Trip's interaction with Charles were sweet. Also, the scene at the very beginning when Trip teases T'Pol about her age was cute. But ultimately I cannot give this episode a higher grade than 3- on my 10-graded scale. Sorry, but the moral of this tale really offends me.
 
Yeah, I didn't care for Cogenitor either. Here's my review of it:

2-22 Cogenitor

CogenitorBanner.jpg


And so we have arrived at Cogenitor, one of the most overrated episodes on all of Enterprise. Why it usually gets such high praise as it gets is beyond me. While not bad in the sense that A Night in Sickbay was bad, it nevertheless doesn't rank very high on my scale, mainly because of how the subject matter offends me. The underlying "message" of the episode is certainly not one that I would subscribe to, and to think that this is what goes for Trek morality makes me feel rather uneasy. It's the same kind of issue I have with Dear Doctor from the first season. Granted, the episode is well crafted and it presents an intriguing moral dilemma, but I cannot for the life of me look beyond the resolution.

Here we have a new species, the Vissians, that turns out not to be bi-gendered but that has a third gender, the cogenitors, that practically serves as sex-slaves and are treated as nothing more than inanimate objects that are tossed around to whatever couple that needs them to conceive a child. But the cogenitors are no less intelligent than the male and female Vissians. While presenting this fact, the episode concludes that "we" have no real right to judge them and to interfere with their culture. Riiiight. This is the kind of thinking that allows you to look the other way when women are being oppressed in a lot of Middle Eastern cultures, or when genocidal madness grips certain areas of the globe. Thanks, but no thanks! I will never support this kind of reasoning.

I suppose this is another one of Enterprise's attempts at showing how the prime directive of later Treks evolved (as was the aforementioned Dear Doctor). It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone then, that I'm not a big fan of this general order, and I never have been, especially how that rule was implemented in the 24th century. At least Kirk had the decency to ignore it whenever he felt it was prudent. While a certain amount of caution is to be advised when you're dealing with alien cultures, there is such a thing as right and wrong. I'm definitely not a moral relativist. I do believe there are certain universal rights. In the Trek universe one may not say just human rights - in Cogenitor T'Pol does point out that the Vissians aren't humans - but I'd like to think that there are "sentients' rights", for lack of a better term. The kind of rights I'd like to see being the foundation for what will eventually become the United Federation of Planets. I don't care if that is viewed as a human-centric outlook, especially if the alternative leads to morally bankrupt consequences.

So yes, I firmly believe that Trip was right in doing what he did when he befriended the cogenitor and learned him/her/it to read. And Archer was (literally, as it unfortunately turned out) dead wrong in refusing to grant the cogenitor asylum. Sure, Trip was a bit naïve and probably went about it the wrong way, but his heart was in the right place. He saw just the person, Charles (as the cogenitor named himself/herself/itself), not the culture, not the species, not the gender, and not the "supposed" place Charles had in Vissian society. While some may say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, that is also, if not more so, true of the non-interference approach. Yes, interfering in a culture's "natural development" (whatever that means) can be fraught with dangers, but so can definitely standing by the wayside be, allowing oppression, genocides or natural disasters to occur.

To add insult to injury, Cogenitor also offers one of the worst portrayals of Archer we've ever seen on Enterprise, which is no small feat considering how bad the character has been treated overall. Here he comes off as a complete asshole. Hypocritical just begins to descibe it. When he starts to fiercely chew out poor Trip, especially after he tells his chief engineer that Charles has committed suicide rather than to keep living in slavery, I cringe every time. All the blame is put on Trip's shoulders and Archer hasn't a nice thing to say to someone who is supposed to be his friend, and a grieving friend at that.

Perhaps it is Archer's own guilt speaking, since Trip firmly, and rightly, believes that he's done no different than Archer would've done. Archer sure has meddled before whenever it had struck his whim. But now this incident has blown up in his face and while he at one point says "You did exactly what I'd do? If that's true, then I've done a pretty lousy job setting an example around here" (duh!) he refuses to admit his own culpability. But that's right, Archer's actions will never be shown to come back to haunt him or bite him in the ass, since he's supposed to be this "hero captain". But it's perfectly fine to have it happen to another character, because Archer is the bestest! Urgh! I also hated how Trip took all this in such a self-depreciating manner. As someone said, it's like abuse victims who believe every crap their abusers throw at them, while they keep getting beaten up. Dammit Trip, you were right and your bloody captain was wrong!

Cogenitor also marks what I see as an effective end to the close friendship between Archer and Trip, and that isn't surprising. While the events therein aren't mentioned again, as is all too common in episodic television, you can't help notice that they're usually not on such buddy/buddy terms after this episode as they were before. And only a few episodes later we're deep into the Expanse, where Archer effectively shuts himself off from everyone.

The way the episode played out, it felt that Archer was more upset that Trip had ruined an otherwise great first contact situation. While Trip was befriending Charles, Archer was befriending the Vissian captain Drennik, safely away from the rest for a few days in a Vissian stratopod closely observing a hypergiant star (which had some great visuals). Those were some really nice scenes and the late Andreas Katsulas (R.I.P.) was great as Drennik. But there lurked some darker facets underneath the Vissians otherwise friendly exterior. I'm willing to concede that apart from the way they treated their cogenitors, they might have a very decent society, but that doesn't mitigate the appalling way in which they treat them. But Archer seems more upset at having been forced to learn this fact than about the fact itself. And after he's been totally mesmerized by all the nifty Vissian technology he's seen, when he refuses to grant Charles asylum, it comes off as if he's more interested in not jeopardising the future possibility of getting his hands on said technology, than helping a fellow sentient being.

The episode also suffers from a totally unnecessary subplot about how Malcolm Reed flirts with a Vissian woman - or perhaps it is the other way around. Since there are a lot of narrative holes in the main story, one has to wonder why it was felt a need to put this quite silly storyline in the episode? For example, it would've been much better if the viewers got to learn what eventually motivated Archer do deny Charles asylum. And there was the same problem in Dear Doctor, when we never learned why Archer made the decision he made. The common theme in both instances, at least how I see it, is that he made the wrong decisions. I suppose it is hard to come up with good reasons, or convincing ones at any rate, for someone to make wrong decisions. So this perfectly underlines my objections to both episodes.

A minor nit, especially after all the above, is that I have a hard time wrapping myself around the concept of tri-gendered reproduction - that according to Phlox needs the enzymes from the third sex to facilitate conception. It seems unnecessarily complicated, and frankly a way that one would think evolution would try to stay well clear of. The advantages of bi-gendered reproduction is quite obvious (oh not that, you pervs…), even if it is more complex than asexual reproduction, but it is hard to see any additional advantages to having a third sex involved (let alone a fourth, as some fans have speculated the Andorians have).

Wasn't there anything I liked about Cogenitor? Well, I mentioned the Archer/Drennik scenes and I thought Trip's interaction with Charles were sweet. Also, the scene at the very beginning when Trip teases T'Pol about her age was cute. But ultimately I cannot give this episode a higher grade than 3- on my 10-graded scale. Sorry, but the moral of this tale really offends me.

I totally agree with this!
 
Archer does come off really bad in this episode. It's hard not to let it bring him down a notch in my esteem.
I think tptb meant for us to see our own oppression of minorities as hurtful, but the negative ending is even worse than TNG's attempts at a gay metaphor with The Outcast.
For what it's worth, the Andorian four genders are a major point in the Deep Space 9 relaunch novels. It's really well done, and the problems are acknowledged as the Andorians are facing extinction due to their reproductive problems.
 
A minor nit, especially after all the above, is that I have a hard time wrapping myself around the concept of tri-gendered reproduction - that according to Phlox needs the enzymes from the third sex to facilitate conception.
Like someone else in the thread stated, "Why couldn't they just milk them for the enzymes"? Was there a good reason given that they had to just be around the couple in question for a long period being treated at best like a house pet?
 
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