Glad I'm not the only one wondering this.
Why Haven't We Found Life Yet In the Universe?
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Glad I'm not the only one wondering this.
Why would an advanced space faring species move to the region of space with the least available resources?
Xenophobia?
Besides, all that assumes they moved to those spaces, not that they originated there. If they originated in "normal" star systems in this galaxy, that means those systems are still a reasonable place to look for them.
Talking to someone who doesn't exist?
That first assertion which one could easily argue the validity as expressed doesn't in any way support the obvious question begging of the second assertion.
The only type of alien life that we would find in the Universe would never be friendly it would always be an aggressive and domineering alien species.
After surveying Earth for a 1,000 years would you as a peaceful alien species want anything to do with a back stabbing and conniving species such as humans where one moment a person is all friendly and then in the next they are trying to steal and take from you what you have?
No you wouldn't.
Why? Because regardless of how you treated a human they would always look to stab you in the back to try and take what is yours.
After surveying Earth for a 1,000 years would you as a peaceful alien species want anything to do with a back stabbing and conniving species such as humans where one moment a person is all friendly and then in the next they are trying to steal and take from you what you have?
No you wouldn't.
Why? Because regardless of how you treated a human they would always look to stab you in the back to try and take what is yours.
Why would an advanced space faring species move to the region of space with the least available resources?
I agree that space stations/habitats are more likely than planets but stars provide energy and planets/asteroids raw materials.
An advanced space faring species would have the ability to travel through the expanse between galaxies rather easily and would have the ability to gather resources to create what it needed artificially.
In the space between galaxies there is a lot less resources but there is also a lot less cosmic anomalies such as black holes and rogue comets to worry about striking a planet and ending civilization.
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Because they haven't looked around Earth very well?
Because they haven't looked around Earth very well?
Your logic is flawed. If they have all these abilities and capabilities, then they could protect themselves against things like rogue comets — and it certainly wouldn't end their civilization if one hit. That's not incentive enough to move outside the galaxy.
And as I posted before:
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Because they haven't looked around Earth very well?
This thread is making a good case for the lack of intelligent life here on Earth.
An imaginary species might do just that, but we have no reason to believe that real species may do so.
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This is all speculative fantasy and without merit worth discussing outside the SF and Fantasy forum.
This is all poppycock. Speculation based on wishful thinking, nothing more.
Why would an advanced space faring species move to the region of space with the least available resources?
I agree that space stations/habitats are more likely than planets but stars provide energy and planets/asteroids raw materials.
An advanced space faring species would have the ability to travel through the expanse between galaxies rather easily and would have the ability to gather resources to create what it needed artificially.
In the space between galaxies there is a lot less resources but there is also a lot less cosmic anomalies such as black holes and rogue comets to worry about striking a planet and ending civilization.
Actually we're a lot more likely to encounter an alien species that is completely indifferent to us, cannot communicate with us, and has no interest or need to coexist with us since their life support requirements are so incredibly different that we rarely have to compete for resources. It would be a lot like discovering a new species of animal here on Earth, the only difference being intelligence.
If there is any domineering or conflict going on it would probably be through pure callousness (them dumping their garbage on our planets or us dumping our garbage on theirs). Otherwise, an alien species is unlikely to have enough in common with us for domination to even be worthwhile.
There are only a handful of civilizations where this has been a common feature. It would be simpler to eradicate those few nations that have a tendency to engage in such behavior, assuming that civilization has the means to tell one nation from another.
It's not me, it's you. 
They just aren't that into us.
They just aren't that into us.
I dunno, both dishonesty and stealing are present within every culture or civilization. I'm not sure why we'd think our hypothetical alien counterparts would be more honest and nice than we are. One of the great uses of our giant brains is telling effective lies.
But not to every GOVERNMENT, and certainly not to the extent demonstrated by, say, Russia or North Korea or even the United States, for whom dishonesty and theft are damn near pathological. An alien species that went full weed-whacker would probably just glass the capital cities of the countries with a track record of producing the most sociopathic leaders; That would likely include Russia, the United States, parts of South America and most of the Middle East.
Of course, if they were more practical about it they would simply (and repeatedly) bomb our spaceflight facilities and prevent us from ever leaving Earth. Not even bothering to sort out the crazy from the cooperative and make sure humans are never ever a threat to anyone but themselves.
I don't assume they would be. Just a lot less willing to put up with our crap.
One possible reason why we haven't discovered any alien life is because we are looking in the wrong place.
http://www.space.com/31535-advanced-alien-civilizations-globular-clusters.html
Worlds with life on them that have stars close each other within a light year range of the central planet would make traveling to those stars close enough to travel to explore. There is a star that is only 4 light years from Earth. Focusing on this star to find a planet that we colonize would enhance the human races ability to build an infrastructure of supporting life based on ingenuity and knowledge.
http://www.space.com/31535-advanced-alien-civilizations-globular-clusters.html
Worlds with life on them that have stars close each other within a light year range of the central planet would make traveling to those stars close enough to travel to explore. There is a star that is only 4 light years from Earth. Focusing on this star to find a planet that we colonize would enhance the human races ability to build an infrastructure of supporting life based on ingenuity and knowledge.
One light year is equal to about 63,240 Astronomical Units (AUs), where 1 AU is equal to the average distance of the Earth from the Sun. Currently, we can barely get manned spacecraft into orbit around the Earth, and we have sent a probe only about 130 AU from the Sun (Voyager 1, launched in 1977). To say we have a long way to go to get to Proxima Centauri would be an gross understatement.
Also, the difficulties of long term survival in the Antarctic, which is much more hospitable than anywhere off planet, show there is a long way to go before long term living off world is feasible. The international space station already demonstrates the difficulties large scale construction and occupation on a very modest modest scale faces.
That's where humanity is at it's finest, overcoming the difficulties of construction. Otherwise if humans had not overcome the difficulties of construction then we would still be living in caves.
Here is an article discussing NASA's latest boom in funding from Congress to build a deep space habitat that will help build the infrastructure that an advanced space faring race might notice.
http://www.nasa.gov/nextstep
Seriously. Wanting something really, really badly doesn't magically make it happen. Wishful thinking doesn't manifest results. Real achievement is made through a combination of difficult, laborious work, and usually a helping or two of plain dumb luck/happenstance. And you could put a ton of work into something and have it still be a failure.
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