If only you would just present NASA with such an eloquently stated proposal, I'm confident that Europa will have yielded up all of its secrets by, or before, 2020!
Why Haven't We Found Life Yet In the Universe?
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I am Loathe to question your judgement, My Friend, but WE should present NASA with OUR prose on Europa! We would be bound to get our own Science Show that would Eclipse Neil Tyson!!!
Plus, our own console in Mission Control.
We are "GO" for Europa I
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... Sounds good, Sir! But Europa isn't the only longshot, in The Search for Life in our microcosm of the universe. Would you believe ... Venus (!!!) has been considered a likely candidate, for some time. Maybe you've heard of this? Apparently, the atmosphere has an imbalance of inorganic chemistry that is very difficult to explain, with regards to a certain sulfurous compound. Airborne microbes seem to be the simplest explanation for the discrepancy, as natural phenomena on the planet would have a Dickens of a time causing it, without them. My scientific background, such as it is, pertains to how it relates to Art. For example, anatomy, geography, geometry ... and ... and so forth. But chemistry has never been my strongsuit. So, I take it, upon the word of these fringe scientists, that Venus is a good candidate for finding Extraterrestrial Life.
Literary background, in addition, it would seem!; "Dickens of a time..." 
I was unaware of the NanoVenusians, but you can bet your COv2 that I will be looking at some of the available data, later today! Thank you for the news!
Sam Seaborn (West Wing) just told the Senator from Illinois why he should vote to fund the Superconducting Supercollider in the episode storyline:
Discovery
Your Post, above, and many like it, remind me of that nugget: it is why we must do these things:
Discovery
I was unaware of the NanoVenusians, but you can bet your COv2 that I will be looking at some of the available data, later today! Thank you for the news!
Sam Seaborn (West Wing) just told the Senator from Illinois why he should vote to fund the Superconducting Supercollider in the episode storyline:
Discovery
Your Post, above, and many like it, remind me of that nugget: it is why we must do these things:
Discovery
Indeed, sir! In the very deed ...
And if you're still interested in discovering the possibility of Life on Venus, the following link contains all of the information you need:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.P23E..06G
And if you're still interested in discovering the possibility of Life on Venus, the following link contains all of the information you need:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AGUFM.P23E..06G
One reason we might have not discovered aliens yet is because we are looking for them in the wrong place. We assume that aliens would live on planets orbiting a sun like we do. An advanced space faring alien species however would have progressed past the point of needing to live on a planet orbiting a sun. An advance civilization knowing the chaos of living in solar systems unpredictable nature would therefore find the safest place in the Universe to exist.
In between galaxies. Although less gravity would be present there are rogue stars in the space between that would be able to power all of the systems needed to sustain the species that would live on large dockable stations that slingshot around a sun and because
of the lesser amount of gravity be able to travel faster than normal traveling around the space between looking for rogue comets and planets to harvest.
In between galaxies. Although less gravity would be present there are rogue stars in the space between that would be able to power all of the systems needed to sustain the species that would live on large dockable stations that slingshot around a sun and because
of the lesser amount of gravity be able to travel faster than normal traveling around the space between looking for rogue comets and planets to harvest.
That is repeated a lot for some reason. The fact is, we really haven't even been able to look in what you call the "wrong place" yet. Maybe soon we can start looking at the atmospheres of earth like planets outside of this solar system, but until we actually start looking, you cannot accuse scientists of a.) finding no life on other earth like planets, and b.) looking in the wrong place.
We know for certain life can exist on a planet like earth. We cannot say that about any other conditions, so obviously we need to focus on that first. In the mean time, people do come up with ideas about how other life may exist, and to the extent that they can be followed up on, I am sure they will...as funding allows.
Wolf 1061 a Red Dwarf just 14 light years away could harbor life as one of the planets Wolf 1061c exists within the "Goldilocks Zone."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/world...t-alien-life0650PMVODtopVideo&linkId=19674945
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/world...t-alien-life0650PMVODtopVideo&linkId=19674945
I love how they say "just 14 light years".
So basically completely out of reach. It's not like it makes a difference if it's 14 or 30.
So basically completely out of reach. It's not like it makes a difference if it's 14 or 30.
14 years at light speed or close to light speed is better than nothing.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110015936.pdf
How long would it take the engine in the article below to travel to Wolf 1061c?
http://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-has-trialled-an-engine-that-would-take-us-to-Mars-in-10-weeks
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110015936.pdf
How long would it take the engine in the article below to travel to Wolf 1061c?
http://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-has-trialled-an-engine-that-would-take-us-to-Mars-in-10-weeks
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We need to learn a lot more about the characteristics of various stars before getting too optimistic. From a recent article:
Link
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If it takes 92 years to get to alpha Centauri (as quoted in the article) at 4.37ly and Wolf 1061c is 13.8ly distant, 92*13.8/4.37 =290.5 years.
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I'm confused. What are you even replying to?
An alien ship will also continue to not exist regardless of whether you believe it to exist or not.
A three hundred year sleep in a cryogenic chamber really is that bad.
Unfortunately, time dilation at 0.05c would only shave off four and a bit months.
Sweet dreams...
Sweet dreams...
No, if it doesn't exist it isn't an alien ship.
I know I wouldn't want to do it.
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Why would an advanced space faring species move to the region of space with the least available resources?
I agree that space stations/habitats are more likely than planets but stars provide energy and planets/asteroids raw materials.
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