Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

[dahj]

So if 52 is that important, does that mean Sam Lane has so make 50 additional horrible blunders before he gets fired?

 

[Corran Horn]

And please, please, stop stating your grasp of the obvious as if it represented an accomplishment.

It's no accomplishment at all - which is why your confusion is so confusing.

If you can trace the New 52 back to the 52 weekly and not think it leads to 52 weeks in a year I don't know what to tell you.

You're still getting it backwards. That's not the point I'm trying to get to, it's the point I'm trying to get from. It's the obvious starting point, as I have acknowledged half a dozen times by now with you apparently not noticing. But I'm heading in the opposite direction from the one you think I am. I want to know how it got from that obvious starting point to where it is now.

And please, please, stop stating your grasp of the obvious as if it represented an accomplishment.

In the original 52 series, it was revealed that there were 52 alternate universes containing 52 alternate earth's so that the title of the series would have a double meaning. So for several years following there were 52 earth's in the DC universe, solidifying the number 52 as significant the the DC world. Because that number now had significance, when they relaunched the DC universe they decided to release 52 new series thus reinforcing the importance of 52 and giving it another facet. It has now become a kind of totem for DC.

Exactly.

 

[Forbin]

What Marvel did with Amazing Spider-Man a few years back was pretty cool.

Marvel cancelled 5 or 6 ongoing Spider-Man books, with different adjectives, Sensational, friendly, Web of, Spectacular, etc, and numbering, and then hired back all the same writers and artists (and editors) to all work on Amazing Spider-Man together in shifts of 6 episodes, which came out weekly, each and then switch out.

Writing for the trade.

I loved that. Wish they were still doing that. It was a lot of fun picking up 3 or 4 Spideys with each comic shop visit, AND knowing it was the only Spider-Title.

 

[Arrrrgggh]

If you can trace the New 52 back to the 52 weekly and not think it leads to 52 weeks in a year I don't know what to tell you.

You're still getting it backwards. That's not the point I'm trying to get to, it's the point I'm trying to get from. It's the obvious starting point, as I have acknowledged half a dozen times by now with you apparently not noticing. But I'm heading in the opposite direction from the one you think I am. I want to know how it got from that obvious starting point to where it is now.

And please, please, stop stating your grasp of the obvious as if it represented an accomplishment.

Let's see, we know the origin; the number of weeks in a year, and that comics come out weekly. We know it's an in-house joke/preference. And we know they use it quite a lot now in the same way -- as other's have pointed out -- that other companies and franchises keep using the same number in their products.

I think it's your inability to grasp the obvious that's the problem, not everyone else stating it repeatedly out of disbelief of said inability.

 

[Christopher]

In the original 52 series, it was revealed that there were 52 alternate universes containing 52 alternate earth's so that the title of the series would have a double meaning. So for several years following there were 52 earth's in the DC universe, solidifying the number 52 as significant the the DC world. Because that number now had significance, when they relaunched the DC universe they decided to release 52 new series thus reinforcing the importance of 52 and giving it another facet. It has now become a kind of totem for DC.

Now, this is what I was looking for all along. That's pretty much the conclusion I was approaching in my earlier posts, but this clarifies it further. I guess the part I was missing was those years of solidification. So the fact that there were 52 universes was something that played an ongoing role in the storylines for those years? If so, that would explain it. Thanks for contributing constructively to the discussion.

 

[EnderAKH]

In the original 52 series, it was revealed that there were 52 alternate universes containing 52 alternate earth's so that the title of the series would have a double meaning. So for several years following there were 52 earth's in the DC universe, solidifying the number 52 as significant the the DC world. Because that number now had significance, when they relaunched the DC universe they decided to release 52 new series thus reinforcing the importance of 52 and giving it another facet. It has now become a kind of totem for DC.

Now, this is what I was looking for all along. That's pretty much the conclusion I was approaching in my earlier posts, but this clarifies it further. I guess the part I was missing was those years of solidification. So the fact that there were 52 universes was something that played an ongoing role in the storylines for those years? If so, that would explain it. Thanks for contributing constructively to the discussion.

Yes, here is a list of some of the 52 earths:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Multiverse_worlds#The_52
I understand it has gotten a bit more complicated since the New 52, that there are now an infinite number of universes but 52 "local Earths," but I am by no means a DC scholar so I'm sure there are others who can expand further.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

In the original 52 series, it was revealed that there were 52 alternate universes containing 52 alternate earth's so that the title of the series would have a double meaning. So for several years following there were 52 earth's in the DC universe, solidifying the number 52 as significant the the DC world. Because that number now had significance, when they relaunched the DC universe they decided to release 52 new series thus reinforcing the importance of 52 and giving it another facet. It has now become a kind of totem for DC.

Now, this is what I was looking for all along. That's pretty much the conclusion I was approaching in my earlier posts, but this clarifies it further. I guess the part I was missing was those years of solidification. So the fact that there were 52 universes was something that played an ongoing role in the storylines for those years? If so, that would explain it. Thanks for contributing constructively to the discussion.

Yes, here is a list of some of the 52 earths:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Multiverse_worlds#The_52
I understand it has gotten a bit more complicated since the New 52, that there are now an infinite number of universes but 52 "local Earths," but I am by no means a DC scholar so I'm sure there are others who can expand further.

Yes, I think it's mutliverse and omniverse, now. The omniverse includes basically everything. The Convergence crossover worked with the omniverse, but left the current multiverse (the 52 parallel earths currently canon) mostly untouched.

 

[Ethros]

Just finished watching up to episode 8 over the last week or so, it's pretty cheesy and hardly blowing me away but I do kinda like this a lot, almost in a kitsch kind of way. Although to be fair some of the effect work does blow me away, some very impressive stuff for a TV budget.

But it's Melissa Benoist who 100% sells the show to me, she's just so good. Also not gonna lie I partly watch it just to admire her
Speaking of, remember those first publicity pictures published of her in the costume, were they done before they'd started filming? Like test pics? Because wow they didn't do her justice at all.

 

[davejames]

Yeah it's kinda baffling why they shot her and the costume in such a dark and murky way for those first pics. She looks about a thousand times cuter in the actual show, and the costume a whole lot cooler.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Yes, here is a list of some of the 52 earths:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DC_Multiverse_worlds#The_52
I understand it has gotten a bit more complicated since the New 52, that there are now an infinite number of universes but 52 "local Earths," but I am by no means a DC scholar so I'm sure there are others who can expand further.

Yes, I think it's mutliverse and omniverse, now. The omniverse includes basically everything. The Convergence crossover worked with the omniverse, but left the current multiverse (the 52 parallel earths currently canon) mostly untouched.

Meet the new multiverse...same as the old multiverse....

 

[tomalak301]

Yeah it's kinda baffling why they shot her and the costume in such a dark and murky way for those first pics. She looks about a thousand times cuter in the actual show, and the costume a whole lot cooler.

I love how "adorkable" she looks. I don't mean that in a bad way, but just it's one of the things that I really love about the show and Benoist in the role.

 

[Arrrrgggh]

Yeah it's kinda baffling why they shot her and the costume in such a dark and murky way for those first pics. She looks about a thousand times cuter in the actual show, and the costume a whole lot cooler.

Pretty sure they were just trying to evoke Superman's aesthetic, and almost certainly by studio decree.

Would be really nice to one day get a real Superman movie, though. Not a goofy half-comedy like the Donner stuff, or the emo, somber, and downright murderous versions we got in the later films.

 

[Taylirious]

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Clark Surrenders Scene

Emo Superman is wearing more eyeliner than Lois!

 

[Christopher]

Would be really nice to one day get a real Superman movie, though. Not a goofy half-comedy like the Donner stuff, or the emo, somber, and downright murderous versions we got in the later films.

Well, to be fair to Donner, "goofy half-comedy" was pretty much how Superman and most other superhero comics were done throughout the 1950s-60s. They'd started to get more serious again when the Reeve movies were made, but the legacy of the goofy Silver Age was still strong, so the movies weren't really that far off of "real" for that period, just a bit behind the times. (The first two movies are kind of inconsistent about it, trying to be modern and naturalistic while still drawing on a lot of absurd ideas and elements, but Superman III and the '83 Supergirl in particular are unapologetic Silver-Age zaniness throughout.)

But yeah, I'd welcome a movie that captures the more serious but optimistic tone of something like Maggin's work in the '70s or Byrne's in the '80s or All-Star Superman. Something like Superman: The Animated Series, although I thought that played up Superman's "toughness" a bit too much at the expense of his kinder side. And I wouldn't mind something that embodied the social activism of the early years of the character, like in the post-WWII years of the radio series when it spoke out regularly against racial and religious intolerance, anti-immigrant sentiment, and the rhetoric of demagogues who encouraged Americans to fear and hate each other rather than working together. That's a message we have a need for in the current climate. We don't need Superman stories that are cynical about the very idea of heroism. We need Superman stories -- or Supergirl stories -- that inspire the best in us.

 

[DWF]

We need stories that entertain us, that's pretty much the point of entertainment. The kind of stories berinig told is merely a sign of the times they're written in.

 

[Samurai8472]

‘Smallville’ Alum Laura Vandervoort Joining CBS’s ‘Supergirl’ as DC Heroine Indigo

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/supergirl-laura-vandervoort-indigo-casting-cbs-1201677260/

 

[davejames]

Never heard of the character before, but pretty cool to see Vandervoort appearing on the show.

 

[Christopher]

I've never really cared for Vandervoort. I wish they'd bring in the animated Supergirls -- Nicholle Tom, Summer Glau, Molly C. Quinn, Nicole Sullivan. (She's played by someone named Anais Fairweather in the new DC Super Hero Girls web series, but I have no idea who that is.)

 

[JD]

I'm thrilled they're getting Vandervoort, we got the movie Supergirl, so it's only fair we get the Smallville one too. Have there been any other live action Supergirls?

 

[dahj]

^
Nope.