J'onn is standing on a box, and Kara is in a trench.
Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1
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J'onn is standing on a box, and Kara is in a trench.
Good points...maybe this was an experiment to see if Gotham was really "stealing" audience/ to see if there is major overlap of potential viewers of both shows?
I think this was another case of a short term seemingly good idea that completely missed the bigger picture.
Hope that lack of preview was an oversight....they have time to decide ... but not much.
Yeah but she also advised that Supergirl takes things a bit slower at first to get some practice, gave advice about dealing with her foster mom and how to control her temper and juggle multiple jobs at once, and has just generally been a sounding board for every issue Kara has had this season, as well as a strong female figure for her in general.
Granted, it's more of a tough love approach than Kara would probably prefer, but it still seems to get the job done and play a valuable role in her life-- as she herself said in this episode.
That's the cool thing about Cat -- she's a very flawed character, but she has hidden depths. Complexity is interesting.
I see it as kind of a modern take on the original characterization of Perry White, who -- at least on the '40s radio series where he was introduced -- was extremely grouchy and prone to anger, constantly screaming imprecations at his reporters and firing them at a whim and rehiring them moments later. He was basically J. Jonah Jameson without the hatred for the superhero. But he was also a deeply principled man and a mentor figure and was very protective of the employees that he constantly insulted and screamed at and threatened to deprive of livelihood. Cat is a cooler, subtler version of that -- as she explained, she had to be, because a woman in the business world couldn't get away with the kind of vehement tantrums that Perry White was known for.
I see it as kind of a modern take on the original characterization of Perry White, who -- at least on the '40s radio series where he was introduced -- was extremely grouchy and prone to anger, constantly screaming imprecations at his reporters and firing them at a whim and rehiring them moments later. He was basically J. Jonah Jameson without the hatred for the superhero. But he was also a deeply principled man and a mentor figure and was very protective of the employees that he constantly insulted and screamed at and threatened to deprive of livelihood. Cat is a cooler, subtler version of that -- as she explained, she had to be, because a woman in the business world couldn't get away with the kind of vehement tantrums that Perry White was known for.
I assume you're kidding?
Comic books generally come out weekly. Does that help?
I was initially only half paying attention and read that word as impregnate - which you have you admit would have been pretty darned unforeseen.
The Martian weakness to fire?
All that burning solar energy inside Kara begging to be heat vision, is that Martian birthcontrol?
Back when birth control was illegal in the states, how illegal was it?
(Wiki, wiki... Interesting.)
Sunlight.
Sunlight is the pill to these Aliens if they coupled with those other Aliens.
Born criminal.
Must be jailed.
Make an example of their flagrant immoral behaviour to take Birth Control in front of every one in a line of sight for 12 hours a day.
Disgusting!
If that is, it was still 1939 and I was a radical conservative.
All that burning solar energy inside Kara begging to be heat vision, is that Martian birthcontrol?
Back when birth control was illegal in the states, how illegal was it?
(Wiki, wiki... Interesting.)
Sunlight.
Sunlight is the pill to these Aliens if they coupled with those other Aliens.
Born criminal.
Must be jailed.
Make an example of their flagrant immoral behaviour to take Birth Control in front of every one in a line of sight for 12 hours a day.
Disgusting!
If that is, it was still 1939 and I was a radical conservative.
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I am a little annoyed that they backtracked on Cat knowing Kara is Supergirl. I really like the dynamic that's built up between them over the season, and I think it would be really interesting if they added all of the Supergirl stuff to that realtionship. I really don't have a problem with her believing the J'Onn/Kara act, she really had no reason not to believe it at this. Sure she lives in a world with super powers, but there was nothing in that situation that appeared to involve powers. If you see two people in a room together, you're not going to jump to the assumption one of them is a shape shifter. I guess you could use the fact they look alike as a justification, but I don't know if Kat really thinks they look that much alike.
I am glad that Kara does know about J'Onn now.
It was also nice to see that Astra is able to be reasonable.
I am glad that Kara does know about J'Onn now.
It was also nice to see that Astra is able to be reasonable.
Yeah for people in this world who haven't been watching Kara in and out of the costume all season, and gotten used to her two different looks, I imagine it might not be as immediately apparent that they were the same person. Especially with the way Benoist gets glammed up a bit more for Supergirl, and then with the Supergirl costume itself commanding most of the focus and attention whenever she enters a room.
I'm not completely sure, but I think I remember either General Lane or Lucy mentioning Lois being involved with Clark.
That would definitely be a more interestingly written show....I was initially only half paying attention and read that word as impregnate - which you have you admit would have been pretty darned unforeseen.
No, he's not.
I have to say that I like the way your brain works. I don't understand it, but I like it.
No, most comic books come out monthly. Yes, new comics on the whole come out every Wednesday, but only a few individual titles come out once per week, which is a punishing schedule. (The Amazing Spider-Man was published weekly for a few years starting with Brand New Day, but that was because it had four rotating creative teams working on it together, so that each team only had to do one book per month.) That's why DC had an event named 52 in 2006-7 -- because its once-a-week format was unusual enough that they could promote it as a defining feature of the event. If it had been routine, it would've been pretty pointless to reference that in the title.
Not to mention that DC is just one comic book company out of many. You don't see Marvel or IDW or Dark Horse using the number 52 as a recurring motif. That's exclusive to DC, and it's something they've been doing ever since their 52 miniseries.
Now that I look into it a bit more, I realize that the miniseries 52 ended with the reintroduction of the DC multiverse, which was arbitrarily said to include 52 different parallel realities -- which I always figured was an attempt at a compromise between having "infinite Earths" and having just one. So it was that decision that established the number 52 as having in-story significance. And for whatever reason, they became fixated on that number and made it the basis for their next reboot, the so-called "New 52" -- which was a pretty dreadful idea, trying to reinvent 52 titles at once, so that only a few of them could really have sufficient editorial attention paid to them or creative thought and care put into them, which is why so many of them tanked quickly.
So of course DC's obsession with the number 52 began with the limited-series event of that title, in the same way that DC has been obsessed with the word "Crisis" in its titles ever since 1986. But why that event out of all their other events?
You're really overthinking things, and apparently getting upset because of it. It's quite clearly because of there being 52 weeks in a year, and they decided they liked that motif enough to interweave it as a common thread throughout their multiverse. There's nothing wrong with that. Would you have preferred some other arbitrary number or reason instead?
What? Why is it that people keep mistaking my "curious" for "upset?" You're the second person to misread me that way in the past couple of days. I just like to question and explore things. That's not being upset, it's being inquisitive and interested about the world. A curious mind questions everything, not just the things that upset it.
The fact that it's the number of weeks in the year is too obvious and trivial to be worth mentioning. It can't be the entire explanation all by itself, because the number of weeks in the year applies to everything in life, and I'm talking about a meme specific to a single comic book publisher over the past decade. Yes, obviously the fact that the 52 miniseries put out one issue a week for a whole year was one of the defining attributes of that particular event -- again, so obvious that it's a waste of time to point it out and a distraction from the more interesting questions.
I'm not making a value judgment. I'm being curious. Questioning is not condemnation; it is exploration.
i don't think so. Berlanti & Co. has been real good about honoring different things of DC's 75+ year history. Sometimes it's blatant, like Barry disappearing in Crisis (Crisis on Infinite Earths). Sometimes more subtle, like the 52 series from the past 20 years.
To be fair, the word "Crisis" already had a proud history at DC before it became associated with that event...it had traditionally (but not always) been included in the titles of the annual JLA/JSA team-ups since 1963.
In another post, you mentioned the 50's Superman TV series, but that gimmick is (as noted two days ago) is more in line with what followed on TV: the Gladys Kravitz nonsense seen on Bewitched, or Dr. Bellows on I Dream of Jeannie. A sitcom character might have time to duck and dodge the nosy neighbor/boss/psychiatrist, however, if Supergirl is to be taken even semi-seriously, the character does not need her boss cutting her eyes, sniffing around and pointing fingers every other episode. Its a pointless, tired gimmick, one that I predict might come back (unfortunately) once Benoist's husband appears as Cat's son.
As it stands, that character--Cat--was designed to be annoying; the bitchy foil is not endearing to anyone. The characterization is so extreme that attempts to humanize her with her family woes still do nothing to justify her biting, complaints, and manipulation. No amount of personal whining justifies 24-hour asshole mistreatment of all around her, so if she's kept at arm's length, that will help the main focus of the series develop.
Supergirl/Kara already has enough personal life issues to deal with, and does not need the "I know who you are!" crap from the boss.
DC wanted to sell a weekly comicbook.
Its not like DC had the stones to call that book "This is a mother fucking Robbery and if see even one of you cock suckers not buying this book, I'll execute every mother fucking one of you".
There is no skipweek. You can't not go to your local comic shop one week, 52 is always coming, and you have to be there always because this week truthfully, finally Animal Man and Starfire are finally going to hook up.
Animal Man should have had an affair with Starfire.
It's not that Corrie is gorgeous I say this, but that death was imminent and almost completely unavoidable, so if Buddy had survived, which he did, the wife would have understood, and if she didn't... Worth it.
Besides that was the entire vibe of the book.
"If it was you in space with the orange princess, you'd totally go there. Congratulations! You're smarter than the lamest Superhero ever. Good job!"
Watching Animalman's decency, loyalty and faithfulness wilt, bend and melt, which it didn't.
Idiot.
#### virtue.
I spent a lot of money 52, and Countdown, and I can still feel where they ####ed me.
Excuse my bitterness.
Action Comics Weekly in the 80s was way cooler than 52.
Its not like DC had the stones to call that book "This is a mother fucking Robbery and if see even one of you cock suckers not buying this book, I'll execute every mother fucking one of you".
There is no skipweek. You can't not go to your local comic shop one week, 52 is always coming, and you have to be there always because this week truthfully, finally Animal Man and Starfire are finally going to hook up.
Animal Man should have had an affair with Starfire.
It's not that Corrie is gorgeous I say this, but that death was imminent and almost completely unavoidable, so if Buddy had survived, which he did, the wife would have understood, and if she didn't... Worth it.
Besides that was the entire vibe of the book.
"If it was you in space with the orange princess, you'd totally go there. Congratulations! You're smarter than the lamest Superhero ever. Good job!"
Watching Animalman's decency, loyalty and faithfulness wilt, bend and melt, which it didn't.
Idiot.
#### virtue.
I spent a lot of money 52, and Countdown, and I can still feel where they ####ed me.
Excuse my bitterness.
Action Comics Weekly in the 80s was way cooler than 52.
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Oh, of course, yes.