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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

Admiral2 said:
I'll say it outright. I would have preferred it if Cat confirmed Kara's secret. It would make their relationship much more interesting.

So she fires Kara. Good. She treats her like shit all day. I don't care how many friends she has in that building, being treated like a body slave by your immediate superior is mentally and even physically draining, even for someone who can bend steel in her bare hands, and eventually you need to get away from that. And it's not like she'd be out of work for long. J'onn Henshaw indicated he'd take her on. That would likely mean better pay plus benefits and hazard pay, and she'd have people much better at keeping secrets helping her protect hers.

As for Cat, she went from somebody who would potentially be intriguing to somebody who's just annoying again.
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While I agree it would have been nice to see Cat in on the secret, the character did raise a (surprisingly) good point when she pointed out Supergirl would be better off saving people 24/7 than toiling away as her lowly assistant for much of the day (although if she had any idea how many times Kara already sneaks out every day, I imagine it might not bother her as much).

But whether she knows or not, I'm one of those who still finds the Cat and Kara relationship to be the best and most interesting one on the show. There's always a certain tension there, with Cat being at once a mentor figure to Kara and an adversary, that I just find incredibly fun to watch.

And off course this being a Berlanti show, you know she's going to find out the truth eventually (or find it out again I suppose), so I don't see much harm in postponing that moment til later in the show.
 
Christopher said:
Heck, it might be fun to resurrect the old Silver Age dynamic of the superhero's suspicious coworker constantly trying to expose their secret identity and the hero having to come up with new ways to keep them from getting proof.
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Ugh, I hope not. That character would either be evil or buffoonish.
 
Corran Horn said:
Ugh, I hope not. That character would either be evil or buffoonish.
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No, that's not how it played out. In the '50s TV series, for instance, Lois was often suspicious of Clark being Superman, driven to find the truth because she was a reporter, and he often had to think quickly to avoid giving himself away. The fact that she was never entirely convinced by his excuses or tricks meant that she wasn't buffoonish. And the challenge she created kept him on his toes. She certainly came off as less gullible than, say, Teri Hatcher's Lois, who went two years without suspecting that Superman even had a secret identity, even though Dean Cain did virtually nothing to differentiate his Clark and Superman personas and voices.

Anyway, I think Cat would come off as far more buffoonish if she let herself forget her suspicions of Kara completely.
 
I still think the biggest strength of this show is Benoist, and it's why I keep watching every week. I loved her roller coaster of emotions through the show last night, the talk with Astra, the reaction to the torture scene, and her just throwing her hands in the air and saying F it with Winn and James there. Also liked that Hank finally revealed himself to Kara so we don't have to keep riding that when will she know storyline much longer. I have a feeling something big will happen, which is why that whole thing was revealed as early as it was.

Overall, a decent episode. Would have liked to see Cat and Kara's relationship grow with Cat knowing who Kara was. Kinda felt like we returned to the status quo, making the winter finale not seem nearly as powerful as it was.
 
I think that they did a good job last night of demonstrating why Cat couldn't be trusted with the secret. As to her being deceived by the impersonation, this is somebody who's selectively oblivious enough to have not known who Winn was.

Yet I can't be too proud to be among those who guessed that J'onn would impersonate Supergirl, because it's another example of how weakly predictable the writing of the show is.
 
http://www.supergirl.tv/blood-bonds-ratings-soar

The ratings were 20% higher than the previous new episode. Which is back to the range of the 2nd episode. Which is amazing given how many weeks of reruns we have had. What baffles me is why they scheduled another rerun next week. After no preview for the next episode they may lose the ground they have re gained. The audience might not be sure if or when the show is really back. They would have been better off saving this episode for next week.
 
Dick Whitman said:
http://www.supergirl.tv/blood-bonds-ratings-soar

The ratings were 20% higher than the previous new episode. Which is back to the range of the 2nd episode. Which is amazing given how many weeks of reruns we have had. What baffles me is why they scheduled another rerun next week. After no preview for the next episode they may lose the ground they have re gained. The audience might not be sure if or when the show is really back. They would have been better off saving this episode for next week.
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My DVR says it's not airing next week at all.
 
The Old Mixer said:
Yet I can't be too proud to be among those who guessed that J'onn would impersonate Supergirl, because it's another example of how weakly predictable the writing of the show is.
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I'd say it's less predictable, and more a trope of DC superheroes. Both Batman and Superman have used the exact same trick multiple times. Heck, they even did it back on the old 60's Batman show.

But at least it demonstrated that Kat wasn't entirely dense and figured it out before the first season was even over. As Tempus so fondly stated once in reference to Lois Lane: "Hello! Duh! Clark Kent is Superman. Ha, ha, ha. Well, that was worth the whole trip. To actually meet the most galactically stupid woman who ever lived."
 
Arrrrgggh said:
I'd say it's less predictable, and more a trope of DC superheroes. Both Batman and Superman have used the exact same trick multiple times. Heck, they even did it back on the old 60's Batman show.
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Usually with Alfred impersonating Batman, though there was one time when it was a remote-controlled Bat-dummy and Bruce's ventriloquism.

I wonder who knows Superman's identity in the show's universe. We know James is in on it -- and so is Winn, thanks to James's big mouth -- but does Lois know? Are she and Clark a couple?

I'm not sure there's precedent for Jimmy knowing Superman's identity before Lois, or at all. The closest thing I can think of is in the first couple of years of the '40s radio series. Oddly, prior to WWII, Superman was treated as a secretive, urban-legend type of figure rather than the public presence he was in the comics, newspaper strips, and animated shorts. He tried to keep hidden as much as possible, only confronting villains whom no one would believe anyway (or who died by the end of the story), and when he was glimpsed or had to act openly to save Lois or someone, he never stuck around to talk. Jimmy, who had been introduced a few months earlier as an audience-identification figure for the young listeners, was the first non-villainous person that Superman actually revealed himself to long enough to have a conversation, the first person to become "Superman's pal." So he was more "on the inside" than Lois was. Though he certainly didn't know that Superman was his journalist mentor Clark Kent, even though he thought they were equally swell.
 
That's all you remember from the greatest supervillain riff ever?

"In the future, Lois Lane is almost as famous as Superman, people write books about you as long as my arm, you even have you own breakfast serial, but down through the ages, one question has persisted more than others: HOW DUMB WAS SHE!!!!????"

With moments like that peppered across the series, you sometimes forget how %95 of that show was right junk.
 
No? I really wouldn't have felt put out if you'd fixed the typo.

Do you know the origin of Krypton?

Krypton was discovered by Sir William Ramsay and Morris William Travers (GB) in 1898. The origin of the name comes from the Greek word kryptos meaning hidden. It is a colourless, odourless rare noble gas that reacts only with fluorine. Krypton is obtained from production of liquid air.
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George and Joe's reasoning was that Clark was pretending to be human so well that his superhumanism was effectively invisible to any observer. It's supposed to be a little insidious that he's hiding in plain sight, and maybe anything else could just as effectively hideout in your cities and your suburbia...

It was 1937. I doubt they meant it like that, and if they did mean it like that, it's probably not about who you think.
 
nx1701g said:
Dick Whitman said:
http://www.supergirl.tv/blood-bonds-ratings-soar

The ratings were 20% higher than the previous new episode. Which is back to the range of the 2nd episode. Which is amazing given how many weeks of reruns we have had. What baffles me is why they scheduled another rerun next week. After no preview for the next episode they may lose the ground they have re gained. The audience might not be sure if or when the show is really back. They would have been better off saving this episode for next week.
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My DVR says it's not airing next week at all.
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think your DVR is right. CityTV which airs Supergirl in Canada said on Monday night that it returns January 18th.
 
Looking at a photo of the scene of Kara and Supergirl together, I've been wondering -- did J'onn make his version of Supergirl a bit taller to reduce the resemblance to Kara? Or does Kara slouch more? Or is it the heels on Supergirl's boots?
 
Next week is a rerun of How Does She Do It? due to the College Football Championship Game being played, which would suck the oxygen completely out of the room.

Childish Things will air on the 18th.
 
davejames said:
Admiral2 said:
I'll say it outright. I would have preferred it if Cat confirmed Kara's secret. It would make their relationship much more interesting.

So she fires Kara. Good. She treats her like shit all day. I don't care how many friends she has in that building, being treated like a body slave by your immediate superior is mentally and even physically draining, even for someone who can bend steel in her bare hands, and eventually you need to get away from that. And it's not like she'd be out of work for long. J'onn Henshaw indicated he'd take her on. That would likely mean better pay plus benefits and hazard pay, and she'd have people much better at keeping secrets helping her protect hers.

As for Cat, she went from somebody who would potentially be intriguing to somebody who's just annoying again.
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While I agree it would have been nice to see Cat in on the secret, the character did raise a (surprisingly) good point when she pointed out Supergirl would be better off saving people 24/7 than toiling away as her lowly assistant for much of the day (although if she had any idea how many times Kara already sneaks out every day, I imagine it might not bother her as much).
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That's not really true. It would be better for the rest of the world, sure, but not for Kara herself. She has a reg'lar job for the same reason her cousin does - normal life is their down time. What Cat's proposing would be the quickest way to burn Kara out that anybody could think of. Sure, she could just get another job, but Cat's proposal is just Cat being her usual bitchy self to Supergirl that she always is to "Kira."

But whether she knows or not, I'm one of those who still finds the Cat and Kara relationship to be the best and most interesting one on the show. There's always a certain tension there, with Cat being at once a mentor figure to Kara and an adversary, that I just find incredibly fun to watch.
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Yeah, people keep talking about Cat being mentor, but mentorship's only a benefit if you're being taught something useful, and the sum total of Cat's teachings this season boil down to exactly this:

-"I'm the only one who gets to abuse you."

-"Only acknowledge people who are useful to you."

-"Suppress your anger forever."

-"You're Supergirl. Be Supergirl every waking moment."

Forgive me if I find the notion of a mentoring Cat Grant disturbing...

And off course this being a Berlanti show, you know she's going to find out the truth eventually (or find it out again I suppose), so I don't see much harm in postponing that moment til later in the show.
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I suppose...
 
I said it before.. i dislike the aunt character and since this episode i also dislike the decison to roll back Cat's discovery of her identity when she did such a marvelous job at deducing the identity herself, would have made for a cool new dynamic in the show.

So 2 big negatives in the episode makes it one of the worst till now.. 'nuff said.
 
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