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Ash vs Evil Dead (new tv series)

This episode has bugged me a little and I couldn't put my finger on it but I think after the previous episode it didn't quite have Ash down. He was too much the Ash from the beginning and not the one we've seen emerging. I guess maybe we could say he was reverting a bit after all the shit going down but I think it lost his character a bit.
 
I liked some of Kelly and Pablo's lines.

"Maybe we're veterinarians, really bad ones."
"Or hunters."

"It was just a raccoon. What the hell?
"You know it - it makes for real good eatin'."
"I never heard that before."
"Oh yeah it makes a real robust and savory stew."

"Yeah, he's the only one standing in their way (to pretty hiker) and me too I stand in their way all the time."

"So your entire plan to save the world came from a bong hit?"
"No I didn't smoke the drug, lady, I drank it."

"Just let her take your load, jefe."

Plus Pablo's face when Deadite Fisher has the puppet Pablo profess his love to Kelly.

And just how nasty is it to tell hiker girl there's no heaven as she attacks her?


"Just let her take your load, Jefe!" was hilarious.

Kel and Pablo did kinda piss me off when they were firing into the young, dying Australian couple. Of course, they both were always impulsive with their weaponry. (And the young wife was kinda hot. Of course, I'm upset with what happened with Fisher, who was hot and tough but overpowered by evil Ash).

It was probably brought up before, but I know Diablo Cody's remake is probably more gruesome and serious than the original and even the TV series. Still, I would like to know from others how it compares.

I'll probably never see it since I value my stomach and sanity.
 
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^ You've never seen the movies!?

Go. Watch.

I have issues with gore and think it would be difficult to watch a whole 90 minute movie with my hands in front of my face. ;)

As it is, I spend only about 10 minutes a half hour doing that with this show. :eek:

As for great lines, it killed me that the forester kept getting lost because the trees just "moved in" on him. :rolleyes:

Re: the ghost-beaters and their weaponry, I kept wondering why they didn't just step to the side to kill Fisher when the married couple's bodies proved dense enough to protect her from a sub machine gun and a (?) 45 magnum revolver. :p
 
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^ If I (who hates horror and gore more than ANYTHING), can sit through the second and third without crying, then you should have no problem attempting AOD.

Be brave!

Btw, I was nearly crying when Kelly was possessed so you've got nothing on me!

P.S. The Secret Of NIMH still gives me nightmares, and it's a kids movie!
 
True, there is no "gore" in "Army of Darkness". Shoot, I think it was rated PG-13. The "worst" is a cartoonish geyser of blood spouting from a pit, but you didn't see it erupting from a body. Most of the violence is subjected against skeletal Deadites and it's often played for laughs. What mayhem Ash himself suffers is lifted straight from "Three Stooges" shorts. I mean, he falls face first upon a cast iron stove and after he uses a spatula to dislodge his face (like Moe Howard), there's little more than a pink region of skin when he should have looked more like "Two-Face" from Batman. You're seeing far, FAR worse in this series.

Sincerely,

Bill
 
It was probably brought up before, but I know Diablo Cody's remake is probably more gruesome and serious than the original and even the TV series. Still, I would like to know from others how it compares.

I'll probably never see it since I value my stomach and sanity.

Fede Alvarez.

It's about 90% serious with a few gags returning from the older films but with modern twists. Jane Levy went through a lot to make the movie and she's the best part of it.

She gets to play two different evil versions of her self and go from a college drop out to Deadite killer in a single movie rather than 2-3, managing all three roles well.

The other characters are completely forgettable. About the only thing that stops the gore being so bad at times is wanting to see the Kandarians clean these idiots out of the gene pool.

It also uses real meat, pigs blood and the odd animal bone, nearly no CGI for any of the gore. So...yeah it's in the top teir of nightmare inducing stuff.

As for great lines, it killed me that the forester kept getting lost because the trees just "moved in" on him. :rolleyes:

It's a reference to the first two movies and the reboot. The Necronomicon has resided in the cabin for so long, the spirits that roam the forest inhabit the trees and can reconfigure everything to trap people forever.

True, there is no "gore" in "Army of Darkness".

The pillar of blood, Ash's "itchy shoulder" problm, Evil Ash being inside out, shotgunned, burned to a skeleton with eyes and his brain popping out cartoon style at one point.

Granted no where near as bad as anything else in the franchise. :lol:
 
I always notice in every article that Lucy is a part of, they always mention her being married to Rob. Don't we all know that by now?
 
I always notice in every article that Lucy is a part of, they always mention her being married to Rob. Don't we all know that by now?

You gotta remember that someone in the casual audience might only see one or two of those pieces.

I used to get annoyed when I had a job on the road that one of the radio stations I liked had a really obvious three-hour playlist. They were probably thinking that most people listened to the channel for a smaller window and wouldn't notice.
 
I have issues with gore and think it would be difficult to watch a whole 90 minute movie with my hands in front of my face. ;)

As it is, I spend only about 10 minutes a half hour doing that with this show. :eek:
The TV series is way worse than anything depicted in the Army of Darkness. AoD is more of a time-traveling fantasy comedy with minor aspects of "horror" thrown in just to fit with the theme of the franchise. It's not really a horror movie at all.
 
^Ironic given Universal gave us nearly all of the old monster classics and are forming their own Combined Monster Universe these days. Then again Dracula Untold was remarkably toned down over what it could have been.

Ghost House/Studio Canal are far more forgiving for that kind of thing. You can get away with about anything with them.
 
I honestly don't think AoD would have become the cult classic it is if it had gone as deep into the gore as Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2. Horror didn't really play a major theme in the movie at all, and it's not like they seemed to expressly cut back on depictions of gore. In fact, adding some in would just be frivolous gore for the sake of it.

Sure, you could say the same about the other movies and the tv series, but those are definitely more horror-themed rather than AoD which, again, is more of a comedy than anything else.
 
And it's why the franchise has largely disowned it. Evil Dead was first and foremost about a group of more evil than evil demons that deserved their own reputation.

Not that I don't love it, I do dearly, and the iOS game around it is hilarious. But I'm glad the series didn't go down that route.
 
How has it been disowned? Ash just doesn't talk about it, because even he knows how ridiculous it sounds.

In fact the only thing actively ignored about it is the loss of his cybernetic hand, which could easily just be explained by him losing it somehow. (And the fact that they gave him a new one suggests that they're not entirely ignoring it either, by the simple fact that the technology actually works.)
 
Not decanonised, they don't do that. But they do gloss over things by giving it less attention. The series has spent a lot of time on Evil Dead 2 which most productions since 1993 have done.

Army of Darkness just tends to get treated as the black sheep, the games mostly ignore it's existance, the comics twist the story, interviews go a little quieter when it's brought up.

Evil Dead the Musical slaps together ED1 and 2 and throws all the one liners of AoD into it but ends with Ash making it out. The reboot ignores the idea of time travel altogether, that the Kandarians are as stuck with linear space and time as us.

Whether fans love it or not, it's going to get the short end of the stick from here on.
 
I was curious and looked into it.

The running theory is that they simply don't have the rights to reference Army of Darkness, including things like calling his shotgun his boomstick or even quoting himself. I'm not sure how accurate that is, but thinking on it, I can't quite remember any uses of any of that stuff. I could be wrong, of course.
 
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