If anything, I find that most theaters keep the volume a little too quiet, presumably because the walls between theaters aren't soundproofed. Although they always play the commercials and trailers significantly louder than the actual movies.
‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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When we went to get our money back for IMAX Hobbit we asked about the volume and they said that was just the way the IMAX movies are played. I'm perfectly comfortable and happy with regular theaters, so it's not worth the hassle of earplugs or any of that. The IMAX screen we tried to see Hobbit on didn't seem to be much much bigger than a regular screen anyways. I was really kind of disappointed by size, I was expecting to be way, way bigger than a normal screen. I might do the earplug thing if the screen was mind blowingly huge, but with the way it is it's just not worth it.
Welcome to the difference between IMAX and LIEMAX (aka IMAX and Digital IMAX).
I was excited for Batman v Superman and then I saw that last trailer, which genuinely deflated a lot of my excitement. As a huge Batman fan, I can't help but look forward to the film- but I am cautiously optimistic now, verses outright excited like I was before.
I haven't really liked any of Zack Snyder's movies besides Dawn of the Dead (which I almost want to retroactively credit to James Gunn now) and Watchmen, although the film only feels complete if you've seen the Ultimate Cut and most of what I like from that film was derived from the original source material - although Snyder did improve the ending, so I give him credit and kudos for that.
Still, I was severely disappointed by Man of Steel. I liked all of the trailers and previews leading up to the film but like so many others I was extremely frustrated by the film's third act. I was hoping with the addition of writer Chris Terrio that Snyder would avoid some of the mistakes that have plagued his other movies, but the latest trailer for Batman v Superman seems to suggest he hasn't really learned much. Based on the trailer, the third act suggestively looks like more of the same - it looks bloated, featuring an overabundance of characters and a heavy CGI villain creating CGI destruction on an almost cartoonish scale.
Regardless, I hope the movie is good. I love these characters and I really want it to be good, despite my misgivings on Man of Steel and Snyder as a director.
I haven't really liked any of Zack Snyder's movies besides Dawn of the Dead (which I almost want to retroactively credit to James Gunn now) and Watchmen, although the film only feels complete if you've seen the Ultimate Cut and most of what I like from that film was derived from the original source material - although Snyder did improve the ending, so I give him credit and kudos for that.
Still, I was severely disappointed by Man of Steel. I liked all of the trailers and previews leading up to the film but like so many others I was extremely frustrated by the film's third act. I was hoping with the addition of writer Chris Terrio that Snyder would avoid some of the mistakes that have plagued his other movies, but the latest trailer for Batman v Superman seems to suggest he hasn't really learned much. Based on the trailer, the third act suggestively looks like more of the same - it looks bloated, featuring an overabundance of characters and a heavy CGI villain creating CGI destruction on an almost cartoonish scale.
Regardless, I hope the movie is good. I love these characters and I really want it to be good, despite my misgivings on Man of Steel and Snyder as a director.
I never got into ANW, but I watched the original. They had a recurring contestant they called the Japanese Superman, because of his looks and the shape of his body. In all his attempts he never even completed the first course, because he lacked the necessary flexibility (and maybe also the stamina to support his weight from minimal handholds). After seeing this bulked up, minimal body fat hero-type repeatedly fall from grace, I became somewhat sceptical about muscularity as a virtue.
Yeah, I didn't see it in the theater but I remember the end of MoS as just a relentless monotonous mess. The Transformers movies have similar barrages. It's like it becomes white noise after a while.
This movie is heavily influenced by DKR, but they left out a very key aspect that made DKR work.
Batman was never trying to kill Superman. He was trying to hurt him and put on a show.
If he isn't here....well....he's just a fool. Putting aside that Batman doesn't kill (a big thing to put aside). He thinks Supes is a threat, but what's he gonna do? Put Superman in jail?
To stop him he'll have to kill him.
Batman was never trying to kill Superman. He was trying to hurt him and put on a show.
If he isn't here....well....he's just a fool. Putting aside that Batman doesn't kill (a big thing to put aside). He thinks Supes is a threat, but what's he gonna do? Put Superman in jail?
To stop him he'll have to kill him.
Batman in this film is supposed to be in a bad place psychologically...maybe testing his morals is exactly what they plan to do.
Batman in TDKR was also in a pretty bad place psychologically. He started the miniseries basically trying to get himself killed. But his commitment to not killing anyone else remained unshaken -- although he was, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps. ("Rubber bullets. Honest.")
In this case he presumably sees Superman as an alien threat, not as an old friend working for the wrong people.
I'm thinking that if they do this right, this may all end up being about how far these heroes are willing to go and what sort of standard they need to set for the up-and-coming heroes that this film will start to establish. But dramatically, to get there they need to start someplace else.
I'm thinking that if they do this right, this may all end up being about how far these heroes are willing to go and what sort of standard they need to set for the up-and-coming heroes that this film will start to establish. But dramatically, to get there they need to start someplace else.
Yeah, I've never liked the tendency of some superhero stories to go, "Our heroes are committed to never taking a life, unless it's aliens, in which case, kill 'em all!" The Justice League animated series' premiere was like that, and it always bugged me. A sentient being is a sentient being, regardless of species.
But then, most movie superheroes don't have the same commitment to preserving life that their comics and TV counterparts do. The only Marvel Cinematic Universe heroes with a no-kill policy are Ant-Man and Daredevil. Jessica Jones mostly did, but not invariably. And the movie heroes other than Ant-Man tend to kill pretty casually, to the point that Ant-Man considered it a triumph that he took on an Avenger and didn't die. Tim Burton's Batman killed lots of people, Schumacher's didn't have a problem with killing Two-Face, and Nolan's had that whole "I don't have to save you" hypocrisy going (not to mention blowing up a whole monastery full of assassins that one time). And so far, this DC movie universe has decided that the best way to start Superman's heroic career is by snapping a villain's neck and feeling really bad about it. So, yeah, I'm honestly not expecting Affleck's Batman to have an unshakeable code against killing.
The second time I've seen the trailer I got the feeling that it's very character based movie. The idealistic, young people's hero that Superman versus the older, tired, cynical, vigilante that Batman is. Affleck plays off rather nicely against Cavill in their scenes together. Their conflict would seem to more natural than than in the Captain America movie, where Cap. who was an agent of SHIELD and a WWII hero is painted as the vigilante.
More like the Hiroshima of the DCMU, really. As horrific as 9/11 was, its cost was several thousand lives and about eight destroyed or severely damaged buildings. MoS featured the destruction of essentially an entire city, and despite Zack Snyder's claim that the death toll was only around 5,000, a more realistic estimate is more like 130,000 dead and 250,000 missing. That's basically Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if the BvS flashbacks do some retconning to downplay the magnitude of the destruction, dialing back the insanely stupid excess of MoS to a more reasonable level that actually leaves some of Metropolis standing. I mean, in MoS, there was already this huge field of rubble stretching to the horizon before Superman even showed up to fight Zod, but in the trailers, we see Bruce running through a mostly intact city when he sees Superman and Zod smashing into the skyscraper, and the scene with Bruce in the aftermath doesn't seem to feature quite the same level of absolute devastation as the MoS scenes.
I think you've exaggerated just a tad Christopher. You probably haven't watched MOS since 2013, and have illustrated your reasons why. No biggie. Most of Metropolis was still standing though.
If you look at the wide shot of Metropolis before the Black Zero is activated, you can see it's large Metropolitan city. Haha
The artist rendering of the destruction.
And a ground zero look from MOS itself.
In BvS, that area seems to have been turned into a memorial plaza.
For an end of the world type movie, Metropolis made out relatively ok.
I say this, compared to other end of the world type movies.
NYC in Watchmen
The crater left in Fantastic Four (2015)
Sokovia from Avengers Age of Ultron
and Chicago from Transformers 3.
You are talking as though you've already seen the movie! We have no idea how they'll come into conflict, nor what Batman's aim might be in confronting Supes (if that is in fact what he does).
What would be really nice is if the relationship between Batman and Superman is more like the Batman Superman series from a few years back. That series had some nice moments of internal dialogue explaining the thought processes of our two heroes. They both had criticisms of each other, but also great mutual admiration. What's more, Bruce was inspired by Kal's optimism and it helped keep him from going back to really dark places, whereas Kal always admired Bruce's brilliant mind and ability to think ahead of a situation. The comic was all about how they learned from each other to improve upon their own weaknesses, which is ultimately what great friendships are all about.
No, the scenes of Bruce running though the city was taken from MOS, teh only difference in that the building that Zod's heat vision brought down was a Wayne Foundation building.
It's funny how some people pull the "realism" argument when complaining about the scale of destruction in MoS, yet at the same time ignore that there is no "realistic" way that Superman could have stopped Zod without killing him...
