STC just released a BTS video of the scoring. Amazing professional quality.
https://vimeo.com/131927987
https://vimeo.com/131927987
Star Trek Continues, Episode 4 - "The White Iris"
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Ah. I see what happened now. You wrote "I want to thank you both..." and I assumed by that use of "both" you were referring to James Kerwin and Red Omega. I read it as you were addressing both posters, not referring to Kerwin's work as well as his coming here to discuss it with us.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Nice! Thanks for that. Kudos to them - I didn´t even notice there was new music, so I guess - mission accomplished!
Incredible! I would have loved to sit in on that session.
While I hesitate to call myself well versed in TOS music I think I've been pretty consistent in noticing new music in the STC episodes from the beginning. I will also say I think they've done a good job of catching the TOS vibe in the new music sufficiently enough that allows it to fit seamlessly alongside the already familiar TOS tracks created near fifty years ago.
LOL, I couldn't agree more.
Finally saw TWI.
I don't care if TOS technically never had a 'counselor'
I don't care if TOS technically never had a 'holodeck'
My reaction, Niagara Falls.
Good Work!
I don't care if TOS technically never had a 'counselor'
I don't care if TOS technically never had a 'holodeck'
My reaction, Niagara Falls.
Good Work!
Ok, a person who calls himself a Star Trek fan who hasn't heard of these episodes by now must be living in China! Which is why I only found Star Trek Continues last week. (I've given up on being current). And why I'm commenting on them right here and now. I read about 11 pages into this thread but I can't wait to say something, so please forgive me if this has been mentioned before. Also, not writing a full review or critique, just random observations.
First Wow moment: Apollo!
Second Wow moment: Ferrigno!
And OF COURSE, everyone and everything else! Like a machine gun spray of What the - moments.
I didn't realize it was Ferrigno. Wow, what an entrance! I think Ferrigno's Zaminhon should have made an entrance as a ghost in White Iris. Who's Lolani?
When Lou beamed in, I stopped steeling myself against some fanwanky thing to jar me out of the suspension of disbelief - nay, hypnosis - of this production, and started to let the Trekkervescence take me away. Lolani? Tears. Pilgrim? Riveting. But possibly a fluke. Ferrigno sealed the deal for me.
Fairest? Brilliant.
White Iris?
Moving. As in, "Fatherhood is moving."
Vic's portrayal - actually I will say this for the writing and production in general - is lovingly familiar, an extremely unlikely proposition brilliantly executed, and, as far as I'm concerned, free to take it where it will. This production - and others - shouldn't be an exercise in crystallizing what has been seen before - but should pick up the baton and carry it forward.
It has been mentioned "Why a holodeck?" Well because there is really nowhere a story cannot go, and that includes the fantasies of characters. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with a counselor (stop. Doctor McKenna. Let me just take a moment for us to ponder and appreciate this character and actress - simply stellar). Don't care if it's a forecall to TNG. The ship is a living organism and anything we have in the world today is fair game to make an appearance as far as I'm concerned. That goes for Virtual Reality, smartphones, chopsticks, Nascar, and anything that they feel is integral to a story. By the way - this is one fan who has always favored morality plays over action from Star Trek, FWIW. I mean, if I had to choose.
Terrific job. And let me take this opportunity to say that Star Trek Phase II is also full of win and I've been a fan since the vignettes.
I don't care how many Trek productions are made, I can live with 100 Captain Kirks. You know what? I can also live with an entirely new cast at the helm of the Enterprise as well, different ships, different missions, it's all good.
Art is about, well, like the Starfleet Charter - going where no one has gone before. If fans want to produce a vignette - super. If fans want Kirk to also be Pike's long lost brother - super. If fans want the Uhuraprise - I'm there. Not only do I refuse to look this gift horse in the mouth, I wish to congratulate all involved for your very great achievement. I personally want to express my appreciation as a fan for these works before any artistic criticism - which is also helpful for my appreciation and very interesting to read, by the way. (As the saying goes, you can learn more about yourself from your enemy in five minutes than in a lifetime from your friends).
I would just remind any creatives out there that you're gonna piss some people off the moment you set pen to paper and say, "It's got this one ship in it."
So many people deserve mention I can't even start. They are all - each and every one of them - a thrill to watch. Go ahead and break new ground, too. Not as if TV always gets it right. I think it's more important to free the imaginations from the confines of static canon.
For me, I don't need a McCoy to take on Deforest Kelley's mannerisms. I am perfectly fine with an entirely new persona taking over the role of "heart" and "head", etc. That is life. Keep the same character. Replace it. Play with it. Free your play.
I mean, you gotta admit it would be fun and illustrative to see a completely different Vulcan and Doctor advising even a new captain, right? So why choose roles based on how well they imitate? Shatner, Kelley and Nimoy had no one to imitate. They created those roles. Why shouldn't anyone else?
Keep 'em coming, guys. "It's a dream worth holding onto." And we need it now as much as we ever have.
First Wow moment: Apollo!
Second Wow moment: Ferrigno!
And OF COURSE, everyone and everything else! Like a machine gun spray of What the - moments.
I didn't realize it was Ferrigno. Wow, what an entrance! I think Ferrigno's Zaminhon should have made an entrance as a ghost in White Iris. Who's Lolani?
When Lou beamed in, I stopped steeling myself against some fanwanky thing to jar me out of the suspension of disbelief - nay, hypnosis - of this production, and started to let the Trekkervescence take me away. Lolani? Tears. Pilgrim? Riveting. But possibly a fluke. Ferrigno sealed the deal for me.
Fairest? Brilliant.
White Iris?
Moving. As in, "Fatherhood is moving."
Vic's portrayal - actually I will say this for the writing and production in general - is lovingly familiar, an extremely unlikely proposition brilliantly executed, and, as far as I'm concerned, free to take it where it will. This production - and others - shouldn't be an exercise in crystallizing what has been seen before - but should pick up the baton and carry it forward.
It has been mentioned "Why a holodeck?" Well because there is really nowhere a story cannot go, and that includes the fantasies of characters. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with a counselor (stop. Doctor McKenna. Let me just take a moment for us to ponder and appreciate this character and actress - simply stellar). Don't care if it's a forecall to TNG. The ship is a living organism and anything we have in the world today is fair game to make an appearance as far as I'm concerned. That goes for Virtual Reality, smartphones, chopsticks, Nascar, and anything that they feel is integral to a story. By the way - this is one fan who has always favored morality plays over action from Star Trek, FWIW. I mean, if I had to choose.
Terrific job. And let me take this opportunity to say that Star Trek Phase II is also full of win and I've been a fan since the vignettes.
I don't care how many Trek productions are made, I can live with 100 Captain Kirks. You know what? I can also live with an entirely new cast at the helm of the Enterprise as well, different ships, different missions, it's all good.
Art is about, well, like the Starfleet Charter - going where no one has gone before. If fans want to produce a vignette - super. If fans want Kirk to also be Pike's long lost brother - super. If fans want the Uhuraprise - I'm there. Not only do I refuse to look this gift horse in the mouth, I wish to congratulate all involved for your very great achievement. I personally want to express my appreciation as a fan for these works before any artistic criticism - which is also helpful for my appreciation and very interesting to read, by the way. (As the saying goes, you can learn more about yourself from your enemy in five minutes than in a lifetime from your friends).
I would just remind any creatives out there that you're gonna piss some people off the moment you set pen to paper and say, "It's got this one ship in it."
So many people deserve mention I can't even start. They are all - each and every one of them - a thrill to watch. Go ahead and break new ground, too. Not as if TV always gets it right. I think it's more important to free the imaginations from the confines of static canon.
For me, I don't need a McCoy to take on Deforest Kelley's mannerisms. I am perfectly fine with an entirely new persona taking over the role of "heart" and "head", etc. That is life. Keep the same character. Replace it. Play with it. Free your play.
I mean, you gotta admit it would be fun and illustrative to see a completely different Vulcan and Doctor advising even a new captain, right? So why choose roles based on how well they imitate? Shatner, Kelley and Nimoy had no one to imitate. They created those roles. Why shouldn't anyone else?
Keep 'em coming, guys. "It's a dream worth holding onto." And we need it now as much as we ever have.
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Not an excuse. China is the 11th most common country visitor to Star Trek Reviewed since January of 2014. And that's without even a single Star Trek Fan Film (that I know about) having subtitles in Chinese.
And yes, that's an invitation to anyone who is willing to provide subtitles in Chinese to ANY production to contact both me and them.
I recently watched it, I just didn't really get sucked into this one. Kirk just came off as an Ass really, I know they are trying to capture the whole "How men on t.v. would act in the 60's" thing, but everything just really felt cardboard, I couldn't understand why Kirk had to relieve himself of duty, Spock and McCoy should have done that long ago. It just wasn't a well done story to me, not well written, I groaned a little at the end of this when Kirk just struts on the bridge like nothing happened, all jokes and smiles. It just didn't feel right, It should have ended with him having a good cry in his quarters or something.
Send me a PM and I can share some STC music cues via dropbox.
I tried watching Lolani last week, i just couldn't get through it. No doubt that Vic and his crew have done amazing work trying to recreate the TOS feel, but watching it still feels like a bunch of trekkies playing dress up in a really expensive museum.
This is my criticism of fan films in general; no matter how much they try to make a "real" or "authentic" trek, 99% of them fail at delivering a professional "tv experience".
This is my criticism of fan films in general; no matter how much they try to make a "real" or "authentic" trek, 99% of them fail at delivering a professional "tv experience".
That's how I feel about nuTrek. The only way that Star Trek Continues could be any more faithful to the original series would be if they could have retrieved Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley, et. al from 1969 and had them reprise their roles instead of the people they do have - who are quite good, in my opinion.
I could not disagree more. While they have not yet made a "City on The Edge of Forever" or a "Doomsday Machine" classic yet they certainly have the potential. The attention to detail and acting puts almost every other fan production in a totally separate lower category. Every one of their episodes is better than 50% of the original episodes some of which I still have trouble watching. I am waiting for them to knock one out of the park and I think it's only a matter of time.
Yes me too. I would also like to see Spock and Dr Mckennah get into it too I think that would be great as would Kirk saying the hell with Star Fleet I am going to do what I know is right like he wanted to do at the end of Lolani.
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