^^^ I read the above comment using my inner Hank Azaria's "Comic Book Guy" voice in order to keep it in the proper perspective.
Star Trek Continues, Episode 4 - "The White Iris"
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^^^ I read the above comment using my inner Hank Azaria's "Comic Book Guy" voice in order to keep it in the proper perspective.
We're fans. It's what we do. But if someone hadn't posted a comparison pic I might not have caught it.
^^^ I read the above comment using my inner Hank Azaria's "Comic Book Guy" voice in order to keep it in the proper perspective.
A strong performance by everyone on board. Once again, this felt like a continuation of the original. Very effective use of McKennah as well, she's a ship's counselor who helps, rather than just states the obvious as Troi all too often did.
I like Haberkorn as Spock better in every episode, and Mignogna's Kirk is just so good. Actually I wonder if even Shatner could have played Kirk's breakdown as well as Vic did...
I like Haberkorn as Spock better in every episode, and Mignogna's Kirk is just so good. Actually I wonder if even Shatner could have played Kirk's breakdown as well as Vic did...
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Magnificent! I loved it so much, I even clapped at the end when the credits started to roll (I'm a dork)! 
Seriously, I am impressed every single time STC releases a new episode. The cast are terrific, the photography and lighting are flawless, the sets, and environment in general is accurate and feels right at home in the classic Trek universe.
The story for this episode, I think, was strongest during the intial 3/4, but the last act was a little weaker, though that may be more to the way the story chose to resolve itself. Still, I enjoyed it, and I totally totally didn't cry toward the end because of a particular scene involving an adorable little girl, who said anything about crying? I'm not!
Again, I have to give a shout out to Vic. The entire cast is wonderful, but Vic nails. it. every. single. time. I watch him on screen. All in all, a terrific episode from a terrific production. Please, please continue creating these wonderful stories for us to watch!
Seriously, I am impressed every single time STC releases a new episode. The cast are terrific, the photography and lighting are flawless, the sets, and environment in general is accurate and feels right at home in the classic Trek universe.
The story for this episode, I think, was strongest during the intial 3/4, but the last act was a little weaker, though that may be more to the way the story chose to resolve itself. Still, I enjoyed it, and I totally totally didn't cry toward the end because of a particular scene involving an adorable little girl, who said anything about crying? I'm not!
Again, I have to give a shout out to Vic. The entire cast is wonderful, but Vic nails. it. every. single. time. I watch him on screen. All in all, a terrific episode from a terrific production. Please, please continue creating these wonderful stories for us to watch!
I will just point out that our RL existence and Star Trek (in any existence) are not the same universes. TOS had no holodeck, and having one here makes it seem less TOS and more TNG.
At least he had the option to use a briefing room. Did the Counselor? It just seems bizarre that someone responsible for looking after the crew's mental health would have nowhere to keep counseling appointments except in her own quarters.
If I hadn't known of STC, I would swear this is a still from an outtake from Paradise Syndrome.
Well. I think much of the shot *is* a still from "The Paradise Syndrome." It looks like the STC actors were simply matted into the shot from the original TOS shot.
I liked it. Good work!
They should make the soundtrack music available somehow. I like listening to Star Trek soundtracks, and this would fit right in.
They should make the soundtrack music available somehow. I like listening to Star Trek soundtracks, and this would fit right in.
Correct - I wonder if CBS has any word on this. I think so far no fanfilm has used original footage as their own.
Some of the other shots were only "ok" CG shots/Greenscreen combinations (especially the Engineering room and the New York scenes). Since the people doing the fx are pros and have been working on the original shows, I somewhat expected something better. Don´t get me wrong, it looks ok and is perfectly fine for a fan film, just my expectations were maybe a bit too high.
Agreed. Excellent work by Andy Farber and the Empire Film Music Ensemble.
It's not exactly footage, though; just a still. They used a TOS still of Michael Forest in "Pilgrim of Eternity."
Didn't like this one. A lot made no real sense and most explained why so I won't go into it again, but this felt like the first episode of New Voyages to me. They really need to get real Trek writers who know how to do it. The dialog was stilted, the acting worse than ever before, and the Captain Kirk on this episode isn't one I recognize as the TOS Captain Kirk. I give it 1 star of 5.
If I hadn't known of STC, I would swear this is a still from an outtake from Paradise Syndrome.
Well. I think much of the shot *is* a still from "The Paradise Syndrome." It looks like the STC actors were simply matted into the shot from the original TOS shot.
I think Vic was matted in on top of the original actress. (Just kidding).
Hiring a full orchestra to perform an original score is a few steps beyond fan film territory. I'm continually amazed of what goes into this production.
Here's the ensemble performing music from ET ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMhWzaXtUvs
If I'm not mistaken, this episode is funded by the first Kickstarter which brought in about 125k and split between 3 episodes - How can they even afford to do something like this?
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The New York shots can be explained away by the fact that it's supposed to be a fake CG backdrop anyway. Engineering no, but they'll soon be past that problem.
Really good episode with a strong emotional storyline. Well done!
I watched the episode yesterday. I enjoyed it a lot. They are improving with every new one.
Magnificent! I loved it so much, I even clapped at the end when the credits started to roll (I'm a dork)!
SNIP!
The story for this episode, I think, was strongest during the intial 3/4, but the last act was a little weaker, though that may be more to the way the story chose to resolve itself. Still, I enjoyed it, and I totally totally didn't cry toward the end because of a particular scene involving an adorable little girl, who said anything about crying? I'm not!
SNIP!
Yeah, that scene with the little girl hit me as well. I am reminded of a similar scene which was in Justice League Animated, episode, "For The Man Who Has Everything" (based on an actual comic), in which Superman was trapped in a illusion, and had to let his perfect world go to save his IRL friends. One particular scene was when he had to tell his "fake" son that he had to let him go, even as his perfect world go. That episode reminded me of a TNG episode, called "Future Imperfect", where Riker, in spite of it all, still considered to protagonist his family, because he really did care for him. Same with an episode called "The Inner Light", which featured Picard in a similar situation.
It's those types of episodes that get to me on a personal level. Sigh...
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The episode was bland, meandering for a sense of urgency. While I applaud the effort to reveal something about Kirk, it didn't reveal anything that we didn't know already about the captain — he is the lonely commander. Worse, it didn't do it in the most interesting of ways.
Everything in the episode is motivated by "because the plot needs it" and not out of character actions or decisions. Once again, we have a reactive story rather than an active one. Kirk doesn't make any tough decisions. If I have one major criticism of most fan films, it's that nothing hinges on a decision the captain has to make. Fan productions should really deconstruct and study "Where No Man Has Gone Before" — it's the quintessential "Star Trek" episode because it all hinges on Kirk making a decisive, difficult decision.
The shoehorning of both the counselor and the holodeck to resolve Kirk's inner conflict felt more like TNG than a TOS episode. In fact, the whole plodding plot and character drama all felt like it belonged in TNG's first season than in all 3 seasons of TOS. The holodeck is — and always has been — a dramatic non-start. We're exploring space, for god particle's sake! Why in the hell do we need to use the holodeck as a story telling device?
Kirk, Spock and McCoy all turn as functions of the plot. For example, the scene in Kirk's quarters — McCoy amps it up mid-scene. It's not built up to his outburst. He just bursts out because that's what the script says, not because the conversation has built to that. Nothing feels earned in that scene. Another example, Kirk's bridge outburst. None of the emotions feel earned throughout the script. It's all a bit too melodramatic.
The whole plot of the planet didn't make sense and I forgot about it for huge chunks of the episode. When we got another mention of it, I was like, "oh right, that's going on." But it had no urgency as a ticking clock. It didn't feel like it was that important to anyone or anything, including the script. And it left a lot of questions: why would the Federation need to have proof that this planet was worthy of a defense grid and not being obliterated out of existence by an unseen enemy? That part seemed a bit incredulous. The whole thing stank of "we need a ticking clock" rather than anything well thought out.
Also, they need to really tighten up their scripts. For example, the teaser is way too long and should've really ended when Kirk gets hit on the head. Continues needs to practice more restraint. Constraints help make for great drama. The "kitchen sink" approach does not.
That being said, there's some good camera work in this episode. Lots of interesting angles. And the original music blended well with the standard TOS tracks. And I appreciate that there wasn't a huge space battle in the episode.
For their next outing, I'd like to see them do more of a "Lolani" — original, something that explores a theme and tries to tackle some tough subject matter.
Everything in the episode is motivated by "because the plot needs it" and not out of character actions or decisions. Once again, we have a reactive story rather than an active one. Kirk doesn't make any tough decisions. If I have one major criticism of most fan films, it's that nothing hinges on a decision the captain has to make. Fan productions should really deconstruct and study "Where No Man Has Gone Before" — it's the quintessential "Star Trek" episode because it all hinges on Kirk making a decisive, difficult decision.
The shoehorning of both the counselor and the holodeck to resolve Kirk's inner conflict felt more like TNG than a TOS episode. In fact, the whole plodding plot and character drama all felt like it belonged in TNG's first season than in all 3 seasons of TOS. The holodeck is — and always has been — a dramatic non-start. We're exploring space, for god particle's sake! Why in the hell do we need to use the holodeck as a story telling device?
Kirk, Spock and McCoy all turn as functions of the plot. For example, the scene in Kirk's quarters — McCoy amps it up mid-scene. It's not built up to his outburst. He just bursts out because that's what the script says, not because the conversation has built to that. Nothing feels earned in that scene. Another example, Kirk's bridge outburst. None of the emotions feel earned throughout the script. It's all a bit too melodramatic.
The whole plot of the planet didn't make sense and I forgot about it for huge chunks of the episode. When we got another mention of it, I was like, "oh right, that's going on." But it had no urgency as a ticking clock. It didn't feel like it was that important to anyone or anything, including the script. And it left a lot of questions: why would the Federation need to have proof that this planet was worthy of a defense grid and not being obliterated out of existence by an unseen enemy? That part seemed a bit incredulous. The whole thing stank of "we need a ticking clock" rather than anything well thought out.
Also, they need to really tighten up their scripts. For example, the teaser is way too long and should've really ended when Kirk gets hit on the head. Continues needs to practice more restraint. Constraints help make for great drama. The "kitchen sink" approach does not.
That being said, there's some good camera work in this episode. Lots of interesting angles. And the original music blended well with the standard TOS tracks. And I appreciate that there wasn't a huge space battle in the episode.
For their next outing, I'd like to see them do more of a "Lolani" — original, something that explores a theme and tries to tackle some tough subject matter.
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I'm supposing Farber and the orchestra donated their services.
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