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The First Trailer

I think the second trailer will be better hopefully
Well, the first one is a teaser, so it's more of a "hey, look, a new Star Trek movie is coming out soon!"
It's an attention grabber, and not much beyond that. Later trailers should better flesh out the basic plot and layout of the movie.

For now, though, enjoy it for its high kinetic energy, and (hopeful) ability to draw in people who may otherwise pass it over! :D
 
Re: Star Trek - Beyond Bad

Kirk's uncle had a vintage Corvette, and Kirk had a vintage motorcycle in the first movie. Why should this be any different? He's a collector of vintage vehicles.
LOL Since when? Didn't he casually abandoned his bike to a stranger in the first one? And wasn't the point of that to symbolises Kirk's 'putting aside such childish things' moment? Therefore, it could be argued that Kirk having another bike is a bit of a character regression.
 
Re: Star Trek - Beyond Bad

Kirk's uncle had a vintage Corvette, and Kirk had a vintage motorcycle in the first movie. Why should this be any different? He's a collector of vintage vehicles.
LOL Since when? Didn't he casually abandoned his bike to a stranger in the first one? And wasn't the point of that to symbolises Kirk's 'putting aside such childish things' moment? Therefore, it could be argued that Kirk having another bike is a bit of a character regression.
Or, shit's going down and there's a bike. Hey! Kirk knows how to ride a bike!
Oh wait, we can't use that to rescue anyone. He's put away his childish things. We'll have a meeting instead.

Seriously, there isn't enough there to give any real detail. It's a teaser trailer.
 
Yes, my favorite film is Låt den rätte komma in, which I saw way before the Hollywood version existed. Hollywood sodomized it later on.

I disagree-I thought that the English-language version (I call it that because it wasn't really an American flick due to it being made by Hammer, a British company) was well made, and even ended like a Hammer horror film (in particular the one about the children with the nuclear glow about them.) Besides, it would have gotten remade one day.

Why is it so important that a Star Trek film be so intellectual when the show really wasn't, for you?
 
You know, I think I've been waiting for a Trek trailer with something like modern music since around 1983.

I like the trailer score.
 
Re: Star Trek - Beyond Bad

Seriously, there isn't enough there to give any real detail. It's a teaser trailer.
Exactly, so you cannot assert that Kirk is now a 'collector of vintage vehicles'.
I never asserted it in the first place. My point of contention was with the idea that since Kirk gave his bike to a stranger (he was enrolling in Starfleet after all), he somehow can't use a bike again later because it meant he had put away childish things. That was your assertion.

My belief is he gave the bike to a stranger because he didn't need it (enrolling in Starfleet) and it looked like a bit of a beater anyway, or at least quite dirty. So I doubt the bike was a vintage one.

So you can't say he didn't collect vintage vehicles either, since Kirk does seem to collect antiques of all kinds, and we don't know the full gamut of his tastes.

Again, movie teaser trailer.
 
You know, I think I've been waiting for a Trek trailer with something like modern music since around 1983.

I like the trailer score.


Just Treble Clef So!

I am a woodwind musician of some 40 years, who wishes to Sweet Holdsworth that he had taken up the guitar, and I agree with Leopold Dennis's musical assessment!

Plus, I am a closet backup singer...

Next Life, Baby...Next Life!!!
 
Re: Star Trek - Beyond Bad

Seriously, there isn't enough there to give any real detail. It's a teaser trailer.
Exactly, so you cannot assert that Kirk is now a 'collector of vintage vehicles'.
I never asserted it in the first place. My point of contention was with the idea that since Kirk gave his bike to a stranger (he was enrolling in Starfleet after all), he somehow can't use a bike again later because it meant he had put away childish things. That was your assertion.

My belief is he gave the bike to a stranger because he didn't need it (enrolling in Starfleet) and it looked like a bit of a beater anyway, or at least quite dirty. So I doubt the bike was a vintage one.

So you can't say he didn't collect vintage vehicles either, since Kirk does seem to collect antiques of all kinds, and we don't know the full gamut of his tastes.

Again, movie teaser trailer.
EDIT: Urgh. Forget it.
 
You know, I think I've been waiting for a Trek trailer with something like modern music since around 1983.

I like the trailer score.


Just Treble Clef So!

I am a woodwind musician of some 40 years, who wishes to Sweet Holdsworth that he had taken up the guitar, and I agree with Leopold Dennis's musical assessment!
Wasn't Magic Carpet Ride in a First Contact trailer?

*pushes glasses up* "Well, no, because that song was 30 years old at that point so does not qualify whereas Sabotage is only 20 years old and is the epitome of modernity scoff scoff narf narf"
 
That means Kirk is the ultimate odd one out.

In a nitpick completely unrelated to ST:B, I'd like to point out that the prop also serves as the ENT plasma rifle, with minimal modifications. So we could say Kirk has a 2150s style Starfleet rifle there, and the Gamma version is either a cosmic coincidence or a case of industrial espionage the other way around...

We now return to discussing motorcycles.

Timo Saloniemi
 
So you're calling the man a liar. Boy, "fandom" sure does sink low when it doesn't get what it wants.

I'm saying he was never going to fess up to knowing nothing about Trek, if that was the case. Judging by the trailer, he knew nothing about Trek and still doesn't.

So you're calling the man a liar.

I've been watching Star Trek since 1975 and I love this trailer. It screams TOS to me.

To each their own, but screams TFF and Insurrection with a far more gigantic budget to me. I will wait for trailer #2 before writing this movie off completely, but man was this trailer a gawdawful, confused mess. Unless trailer #2 pulls me in, this will automatically become a netflix special, and I won't be seeing it in the movies.

The good: looks like the Enterprise may be destroyed, so maybe the next movie (if there is one) we may be getting an Enterprise-A. I have to say this version has grown on me, but I am anxious to see what Enterprise-A will look like, if there is one.

Good Spock and McCoy moment.

The FX look beautiful. But so did STID, and I didn't like that movie.


The Bad: Pretty much everything else. How disappointing. For all the criticism Nemesis got for dune buggies, Beastie Boys and dirt bikes don't help things in the latest incarnation of Star Trek. Oh, and if you are going to use Beastie Boys, how about use another song, instead of the one from 2 movies back? Sabataage {insert Shatner pronunciation} Y'all!

Based on the trailer, this movie seems more generic action blockbuster that Paramount slapped the Star Trek name on because they happened to own it, than Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't get where people are even getting that GOTG vibe, aside from the Zoe Saldana connection.
 
The trailer was terrible, really no other way to put it. Of course it strongly adhered to the typical idiotic action movie trailer formula, so maybe the actual movie is better. I think from here on out I'll avoid trailers and ads and just hope that's the case.
 
I'm saying he was never going to fess up to knowing nothing about Trek, if that was the case. Judging by the trailer, he knew nothing about Trek and still doesn't.

So you're calling the man a liar.

I've been watching Star Trek since 1975 and I love this trailer. It screams TOS to me.

To each their own, but screams TFF and Insurrection with a far more gigantic budget to me. I will wait for trailer #2 before writing this movie off completely, but man was this trailer a gawdawful, confused mess. Unless trailer #2 pulls me in, this will automatically become a netflix special, and I won't be seeing it in the movies.

The good: looks like the Enterprise may be destroyed, so maybe the next movie (if there is one) we may be getting an Enterprise-A. I have to say this version has grown on me, but I am anxious to see what Enterprise-A will look like, if there is one.

Good Spock and McCoy moment.

The FX look beautiful. But so did STID, and I didn't like that movie.


The Bad: Pretty much everything else. How disappointing. For all the criticism Nemesis got for dune buggies, Beastie Boys and dirt bikes don't help things in the latest incarnation of Star Trek. Oh, and if you are going to use Beastie Boys, how about use another song, instead of the one from 2 movies back? Sabataage {insert Shatner pronunciation} Y'all!

Based on the trailer, this movie seems more generic action blockbuster that Paramount slapped the Star Trek name on because they happened to own it, than Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't get where people are even getting that GOTG vibe, aside from the Zoe Saldana connection.

I don't get ANY of this from the trailer at all. It's Insurrection because part of it takes place on an alien planet? Seemed like simply an action-packed short teaser trailer to me. A lot of the Trek movies emphasized action in their trailers. So far so good for Beyond.
 
To each their own, but screams TFF and Insurrection with a far more gigantic budget to me.

Because The Final Frontier and Insurrection are both known for being mindless action blockbusters?

You know, I think I've been waiting for a Trek trailer with something like modern music since around 1983.

I like the trailer score.

Why are people so against rock music in a Star Trek trailer? I don't get it.

Only trombones and chamber music survived WWIII.

Of course, that has nothing to do that the rights to broadcast popular music on national syndication would be a budget buster. Nothing at all.
 
I was disappointed in the trailer. We have a chewed-up starship - just like the last film. We have a girl in face paint for Kirk to lust after. We have someone running around in a big plastic chin that I hope isn't Idris Elba. We have the last second save by the transporter. Nothing there that looked fresh or interesting to me. I hope very much that the film is better than the lame trailer. Even the Into Darkness trailer was better than this one.
 
Shit, in the grand scheme of things, this is nothing. Remember when Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica raped the childhoods of an entire generation of fans? Remember Languatron and his high-literature published on Amazon speaking of a Grand Conspiracy between Universal and RDM to shut out Glen Larson? The screaming, histrionics and gnashing of teeth was a thing to behold - went full-on up to "eleven". We're only at a low-"five" boil right now.

The passion just isn't there any more. :D

Speak of the devil....he's still at it!
Goodness - he is indeed! I thought he dropped off the radar after NuBSG went off the air several years back.

I guess evil never sleeps... :devil:
 
I don't understand all the hate for this teaser. It's just a teaser, after all. You can't tell anything about the plot, or the score, or anything else about the movie as a whole. Just what's shown in the fast paced minute and a half. And even with just that, it looks like Star Trek to me.

Here's something I found on YouTube. It's the trailers for the first 11 films. With very few exceptions (one in particular), they focus on the action.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLseLSMlzsk[/yt]

They all look like Star Trek to me.
 
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