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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

‘Supergirl’ Casts Italia Ricci In Recurring Role

Chasing Life alum Italia Ricci has joined the cast of CBS’ superhero drama Supergirl in a recurring role. She will play Siobhan Smythe, Cat Grant’s latest hire who at first becomes a work nemesis for Kara (Melissa Benoist). But she later proves a more deadly foe for Supergirl when she takes on the mantle of DC Comics villain, Silver Banshee.

Supergirl, which launched to overwhelmingly positive reviews, was recently given a seven-episode pickup, bringing its freshman run to 20 episodes.

Ricci is repped by ICM, Protégé Entertainment, Coast to Coast, and Felker, Toczek, Suddleson LLP.

Cool! I always thought Silver Banshee looked great in the comics. How they do her justice in live-action.

Hopefully the Supergirl version looks better than the Smallville version did.
 
I thought the synergy was tremendous - and all tied together with the scene at the very end between SG and Cat.

I do wonder if the decision to cut the scenes together came after the fact, though, in the editing room rather than the writers' room. Because if they happened at the same time, then when did Kara hear Cat's speech so that she could be inspired by it? It feels like the speech was meant to come before the talk-down scene, not simultaneous with it.


(Also what's transpiring between Kara and James is more than a thank-you hug).
On Kara's part, sure, but that doesn't mean she wasn't allowed to hug him at all, and it sure as hell doesn't mean that Winn has any right to judge her for it.


Really? Shoot, I should have paid attention to that show. Yeah, I didn't watch Smallville; the first episode I saw was the two-hour finale. :)

Phil Morris' role was definitely a good part of some otherwise-uninspired material. :techman:
Well, I think J'onn came into the show in its last three seasons, which were kind of a renaissance after a long decline. The original showrunners had left, and the new ones (promoted from within) broke Clark out of his farmboy rut and turned the show into a Superman series in all but name and costume. So there was a fair amount of good stuff in seasons 8 & 9, though it rather fell apart again in S10.
 
Phil Morris was introduced a lot sooner than that. I had to look it up to sure but I was right. His first episode was in season 6. He was great with the little he was given in the part. Way underused. I always thought he should have been a regular cast member instead of Green Arrow. Or at least more episodes than he actually did.
 
I thought the synergy was tremendous - and all tied together with the scene at the very end between SG and Cat.

I do wonder if the decision to cut the scenes together came after the fact, though, in the editing room rather than the writers' room. Because if they happened at the same time, then when did Kara hear Cat's speech so that she could be inspired by it? It feels like the speech was meant to come before the talk-down scene, not simultaneous with it.

Who said Kara had to hear Cat's speech?

As they say great minds think alike and given the time that Cat and Kara spend together they are probably rubbing on on each other.
 
Who said Kara had to hear Cat's speech?

Supergirl said it, at the end. She told Cat that she'd been inspired by Cat's speech. That line seems to suggest that the speech may have been scripted to come before the talk-down. Otherwise, when did Kara hear it, and when did it inspire her?
 
A speech like that would've been rebroadcast again and again; plenty of opportunity for Kara to hear it at some point. Especially in her role as personal assistant to Cat.

(Also what's transpiring between Kara and James is more than a thank-you hug).
On Kara's part, sure, but that doesn't mean she wasn't allowed to hug him at all, and it sure as hell doesn't mean that Winn has any right to judge her for it.

That's rather the point. Wyn isn't perfect, he's flawed like anyone and this particular flaw has been apparent since the first episode.

(It's also not just on Kara's part, but that's not important here)
 
A speech like that would've been rebroadcast again and again; plenty of opportunity for Kara to hear it at some point. Especially in her role as personal assistant to Cat.

I'm not saying it's impossible for me to imagine how she could've seen the speech. I'm talking about the structure of the writing and how the elements of a teleplay come together. To me, viewing it as a writer, Supergirl's line to Cat at the end suggests that maybe the speech was scripted to come earlier but the decision was made to combine the scenes in editing.


That's rather the point. Wyn isn't perfect, he's flawed like anyone and this particular flaw has been apparent since the first episode.

Of course, but it hasn't been expressed this obnoxiously and possessively before. He's gone from crushing to borderline stalkerish without any evident basis for the transition.
 
I gotta stop reading comic book news sites while watching. Spoiled the J'Onn reveal. :lol:
Yeah, I ran into the same thing. I made the mistake of going to Newsarama before I watched it, and the MM reveal was their second headline on the homepage.
This Hankshaw version of MM doesn't appear to have super strength or other powers besides shapeshifting; if he did, he would be out there doing superheroics just like Superman. The Henshaw name was also used as a red herring to detract viewers' realization of his true identity.
We haven't actually seen him acting as J'Onn J'Onzz, just pretending to be Hank Henshaw. The DEO thinks he's a bad guy, so it makes sense that he wouldn't want to draw attention to himself by going around using superpowers out in the open. We did see him use what appeared to be super strength to open the bomb.

I thought this was a great episode, and it was nice to see them address the whole thing with people relying to much on superheroes. I know that's been done before in these kinds of stories, but I thought it was very well done here.
I really liked the scene with her confronting the robber. It was a good scene for the character Supergirl, and it did a lot to show the themes of the episodes.
I was shocked we got the big reveal with J'Onn/Henshaw so soon after they started to address the mystery there. I haven't read any comics with The Martian Manhunter, but I did really like the character in the JL animated series, Smallville, and Young Justice so I'm really looking forward to seeing what the SG version is like.
Cat's speech, and her scene with Supergirl at the end were great.
Winn's behavior after seeing Kara and James hug was annoying. I can understand him being jealous, but with his current relationship with Kara there was no need for him to act the way he did. I think that whole thing might have worked better if we saw him look pissed when he saw the hug, but then try to act normal once he was with Kara. The mistake there was his behavior with Kara.
 
I have to admit, other than the Hank reveal this episode didn't work for me as well as previous ones have. I was really looking forward to seeing a depowered Kara being forced to cope with a citywide disaster, but unfortunately it felt like the writers just took the simplest and most obvious route possible with the story.

I would have expected to see Kara doing everything she could to help out even without her powers, but right off the bat the writers give her a cold and a broken arm to make her seem even more weak and helpless, and then have her spending most of the episode sitting around and feeling sorry for herself it seems like. And the situations she was confronted came across just a bit too fake and contrived for my taste.

And of course it didn't help that both the earthquake and explosion at CatCo were completely unconvincing, or that there was no real sense of tension in either those scenes or in the DEO stuff.
 
I liked all the DEO stuffd in the latest episode, including the cool MM reveal. The other stuff didn't work well with me. I've seen the "currently powerless hero learns that they don't need powers to be a hero" trope so many times it just annoys me at this point, and Supergirl didn't do anything new with it. Max Lord and Cat grant were their normally irritating selves, and Winn was a jerk, too. Overall, this was a pretty weak episode with some good points.
 
Winn's behavior after seeing Kara and James hug was annoying. I can understand him being jealous, but with his current relationship with Kara there was no need for him to act the way he did. I think that whole thing might have worked better if we saw him look pissed when he saw the hug, but then try to act normal once he was with Kara. The mistake there was his behavior with Kara.

Yeah. Honestly, I'm reminded of something I did back in high school. I was always shy and lonely, but in twelfth grade there was this very affectionate and warm (and devastatingly sexy) young lady who befriended me (platonically, alas -- she had a boyfriend and wouldn't even give hugs to any other male). Everything was going great, but there was one day when she, I, and another male friend of hers were in study hall together, and the other two were joking around and laughing, and I made what I intended to inflect as a humorous expression of jealousy at the attention she was giving the other guy, but it came out sounding pretty darn sincere and bitter. I'd let my real insecurity and envy slip out despite my attempt to pass it off as a joke. And it pretty much sabotaged our friendship. She started to feel I was too needy and distanced herself from me. Not that she didn't still like me, but she just didn't feel she could cope with my behavior. I was never able to make amends with her for the rest of the year no matter how I tried -- although at graduation, the last time I ever saw her, she gave me the tightest hug I'd ever gotten.

So I fear that Winn's crossed a line he can't go back from. Kara may not ever trust him in the same way, and it's likely to create distance between them.
 
This episode leaves the door open for Dean Cain to return as the Cyborg Superman, which works on at least two distinct meta-levels.
 
Both were well cast.

They were. I'm taking nothing away from Gustan, but there is a perkiness that Benoist portrays that I really like. I'll say thank god they're both not in Glee anymore. ;)

Grant Gustin (;)) and Benoist's characters share quite some common traits as in they're both adorable dorks from time to time but when the action comes down they go at it full throttle which i like about both characters.

I haven't noticed Gustin much in Glee but Benoist sure made an impression before i quit the show and she has an amazing singing voice ( i hope they use it sometime, they used Gustin's voice in one episode which in context of that episode was adorable as hell).

I thought the episode was a little heavy handed and full off speeches that at times came off a little melodramatic and corny, worst of all was how they drowned Supergirl's store robbery scene in music.. a little more lowkey would have been better (for example like the scene where she goes all out against Red Tornado in the previous episode).

It was a good episode, some character development for Kara but i also disliked her friend's reaction (tech guy, can't remember his name). Just because he is madly in love with Kara obviously doesn't give him any right to drop such a bombshell on her.. especially because the situation was misunderstood by him and he blew up needlessly.

Next week may get worse though.. i absolutely hate her superaunt and the plot that surrounds her.
 
In the New 52, Cyborg Superman is Kara's dad, Zor-El. (Hank Henshaw was of the prior continuity.) Tweaking him into Kara's foster dad would be easy enough.
 
worst of all was how they drowned Supergirl's store robbery scene in music.. a little more lowkey would have been better (for example like the scene where she goes all out against Red Tornado in the previous episode).

But that scene was nearly all music, with Kara screaming her lungs out silently. It was pretty much the opposite of low-key.


It was a good episode, some character development for Kara but i also disliked her friend's reaction (tech guy, can't remember his name).

Neither can Cat. It's Witt, uh, Wick, uh, Winn. ;)
 
I'm really hoping at some point we see Kara changing into her Supergirl costume on screen (beyond just he shirt rip). I know it's kind of the tradition to have Superman or Supergirl just sort of suddenly appear in their costume, but I'd love to see the actual transition at some point. Whether it's a superspeed-style morph like in the Superman II alley scene or something else.
 
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