Why CBS is taking the wrong approach to nutrek.

[Autistoid]

Alright if you can guess I'm quite upset about kurtzman being attached to the new series. Anyways long story I don't think I'm alone so I figure it's useful to have a thread dedicated to what the perceived flaws are in the next series.

MODS:
I think it's better if we have a place for criticism instead of having complaints in every other thread. Also maybe if we air out our criticism maybe we'll decide we might actually like it.

 

[Mudd]

Here's a thought: why not watch the first episode of the show - which will be on "free" broadcast TV - before "perceiving flaws" in it?

Oh, wait - we are Trekkies!

 

[Autistoid]

Here's a thought: why not watch the first episode of the show - which will be on "free" broadcast TV - before "perceiving flaws" in it?

Oh, wait - we are Trekkies!

Because everything that needed to be fixed won't be fixed.

As star trek fans, there were some basic expectations for a new series that aren't being met.

#1 Stop duexmachina, instead they hired someone who's in love with it.

 

[Mudd]

Here's a thought: why not watch the first episode of the show - which will be on "free" broadcast TV - before "perceiving flaws" in it?

Oh, wait - we are Trekkies!

Because everything that needed to be fixed won't be fixed.

None of your preemptive complaints about the series will have any effect whatever on what they decide to do. Fannish whinging is just a way to kill time on the Internet.

 

[Campe]

Here's a thought: why not watch the first episode of the show - which will be on "free" broadcast TV - before "perceiving flaws" in it?

Oh, wait - we are Trekkies!

Because everything that needed to be fixed won't be fixed.

As star trek fans, there were some basic expectations for a new series that aren't being met.

#1 Stop duexmachina, instead they hired someone who's in love with it.

Star Trek fans have a really odd sense of entitlement. CBS is giving us a new TV show. That's fantastic news! I'm not saying you have to absolutely love the idea. I'm a little apprehensive myself! But I'm not going to pass judgment until at least three minutes into the pilot.

 

[Dukhat]

Alright if you can guess I'm quite upset about kurtzman being attached to the new series. Anyways long story I don't think I'm alone so I figure it's useful to have a thread dedicated to what the perceived flaws are in the next series.

Okay, I'll start. I already hate this new show that hasn't even been produced yet and that I know nothing about because it's not giving me what I want, because only my opinions matter. Yay, now I sound like every other whiny asshole on the internet.

 

[stardream]

Because everything that needed to be fixed won't be fixed.

What if some of us like the things that others think need fixing and what if some of us want to fix the things that other fans don't think need fixing.

Who gets to decide what needs to be fixed?

Did this fandom elect a government without telling me?

 

[Autistoid]

Alright if you can guess I'm quite upset about kurtzman being attached to the new series. Anyways long story I don't think I'm alone so I figure it's useful to have a thread dedicated to what the perceived flaws are in the next series.

Okay, I'll start. I already hate this new show that hasn't even been produced yet and that I know nothing about because it's not giving me what I want, because only my opinions matter. Yay, now I sound like every other whiny asshole on the internet.

No actually there are more than a few of us walking around who saw flaws in the movies.

Obviously the vast majority of people who had trouble with star trek left this site a long time ago but there are alot of us who were turned off from the franchise in large part by production decisions.

 

[stardream]

Obviously the vast majority of people who had trouble with star trek left this site a long time ago but there are alot of us who were turned off from the franchise in large part by production decisions.

I'm sure that is true but there is also a possibility that there are fans who left this site because of the attitude of other fans. They got tired of bickering and the griping.

I admit freely that I left a Doctor Who site and fandom mainly for that reason. It wasn't the show, it was the other fans. The same might well have happened here.

 

[Autistoid]

Obviously the vast majority of people who had trouble with star trek left this site a long time ago but there are alot of us who were turned off from the franchise in large part by production decisions.

I'm sure that is true but there is also a possibility that there are fans who left this site because of the attitude of other fans. They got tired of bickering and the griping.

I admit freely that I left a Doctor Who site and fandom mainly for that reason. It wasn't the show, it was the other fans. The same might well have happened here.

The whole point of this thread is to keep the complaints contained to one thread.

 

[Dukhat]

No actually there are more than a few of us walking around who saw flaws in the movies.

Movies? I thought you were talking about this new series that doesn't exist yet, and which the only thing that we know about and that you seem to have some issue with is (one of) the (two) executive producer(s). So, fine, you don't like Kurtzman. You still cannot have a bitch topic about something you haven't seen yet and know nothing about other than that.

Obviously the vast majority of people who had trouble with star trek left this site a long time ago but there are a lot of us who were turned off from the franchise in large part by production decisions.

How the hell do you know any of that? Have you been on this site since its inception?

Also, the last two quotes above this post are being mistakenly attributed to me. Please fix that, Stardream and Autistoid.

 

[Citizen Cook]

I disliked the Abrams movies. And I'm really worried about the new series already since kurtzman is attached.

I guess that makes me a hater as well.

 

[stardream]

Also, the last two quotes above this post are being mistakenly attributed to me. Please fix that, Stardream and Autistoid.

Done.

The whole point of this thread is to keep the complaints contained to one thread.

Good luck with that.

 

[Dukhat]

Also, the last two quotes above this post are being mistakenly attributed to me. Please fix that, Stardream and Autistoid.

Done.

Thanks

I disliked the Abrams movies. And I'm really worried about the new series already since kurtzman is attached.

I guess that makes me a hater as well.

Luckily for you, I hear that Heather Kazin owns a whip and has been told to beat Kurtzman every time he makes a decision that she thinks trufans will hate.

 

[137th Gebirg]

This thread will end well...

 

[RAMA]

Alright if you can guess I'm quite upset about kurtzman being attached to the new series. Anyways long story I don't think I'm alone so I figure it's useful to have a thread dedicated to what the perceived flaws are in the next series.

MODS:
I think it's better if we have a place for criticism instead of having complaints in every other thread. Also maybe if we air out our criticism maybe we'll decide we might actually like it.

Writers Guild of America, USA

2010 Nominated
WGA Award (Screen) Best Adapted Screenplay
Star Trek (2009)
Shared with:

• Roberto Orci

2009 Nominated
WGA Award (TV) New Series
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• J.J. Abrams
  Jason Cahill
  Julia Cho
  David H. Goodman
  Felicia D. Henderson
  Brad Kane
  Darin Morgan
  J.R. Orci
  Roberto Orci
  Jeff Pinkner
  Zack Whedon

Long Form - Original
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• J.J. Abrams
  Roberto Orci

Hugo Awards

2013 Nominated
Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• Joe Chappelle (director)
  J.J. Abrams (writer)
  Roberto Orci (writer)
  Akiva Goldsman (writer)
  J.H. Wyman (writer)
  Jeff Pinkner (writer)

For the episode "Letters of Transit".
2010 Nominated
Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Long Form
Star Trek (2009)
Shared with:

• Roberto Orci (screenplay)
  J.J. Abrams (director)

For the pilot episode.

 

[JoeP]

Alright if you can guess I'm quite upset about kurtzman being attached to the new series. Anyways long story I don't think I'm alone so I figure it's useful to have a thread dedicated to what the perceived flaws are in the next series.

MODS:
I think it's better if we have a place for criticism instead of having complaints in every other thread. Also maybe if we air out our criticism maybe we'll decide we might actually like it.

Writers Guild of America, USA

2010 Nominated
WGA Award (Screen) Best Adapted Screenplay
Star Trek (2009)
Shared with:

• Roberto Orci

2009 Nominated
WGA Award (TV) New Series
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• J.J. Abrams
  Jason Cahill
  Julia Cho
  David H. Goodman
  Felicia D. Henderson
  Brad Kane
  Darin Morgan
  J.R. Orci
  Roberto Orci
  Jeff Pinkner
  Zack Whedon

Long Form - Original
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• J.J. Abrams
  Roberto Orci

Hugo Awards

2013 Nominated
Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Short Form
Fringe (2008)
Shared with:

• Joe Chappelle (director)
  J.J. Abrams (writer)
  Roberto Orci (writer)
  Akiva Goldsman (writer)
  J.H. Wyman (writer)
  Jeff Pinkner (writer)

For the episode "Letters of Transit".
2010 Nominated
Hugo Best Dramatic Presentation - Long Form
Star Trek (2009)
Shared with:

• Roberto Orci (screenplay)
  J.J. Abrams (director)

For the pilot episode.

I wish I could make that my sig.

 

[BillJ]

Because everything that needed to be fixed won't be fixed.

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!

There hasn't even been a script written or actor hired. How can there be things to fix?

 

[sttngfan1701d]

Be thankful we're getting a series at all, and friggin' wait 14 more months until you actually SEE the pilot episode to start complaining? How's that for a novel idea?

 

[dansigal]

If anyone ever wonders why Star Trek fans get a bad name on the internet, point them to a thread complaining about the direction of a show that no one knows a damn thing about other than speculation based on the name of one individual involved with it.