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What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!

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Different strokes. I find the characters in Voyager to be the worst group in Trek. And Voyager is at the bottom of list when I rank the shows. It's the only Trek show I stopped watching.
Well, on this I will agree. ENT is not on the bottom of my list, and has one of the best episodes in Star Trek in Terra Prime.

VOY, however, is not enjoyable for me. The fact that Janeway became among the highest ranking admirals seen on screen after all that happened in VOY just makes me go :sigh:
 
Different strokes. I find the characters in Voyager to be the worst group in Trek. And Voyager is at the bottom of list when I rank the shows. It's the only Trek show I stopped watching.
Well, on this I will agree. ENT is not on the bottom of my list, and has one of the best episodes in Star Trek in Terra Prime.

VOY, however, is not enjoyable for me. The fact that Janeway became among the highest ranking admirals seen on screen after all that happened in VOY just makes me go :sigh:

I'd put Enterprise at the bottom of my list but I don't think Voyager was particularly great either. Berman and Braga should have hung it up long before Enterprise and handed the franchise over to someone prepared to keep it fresh. After the first 3 Trek shows I couldn't help but think Voyager and Enterprise were running on empty and it effected Enterprise worse, in my opinion, because it was running on empty from day one.
 
I really like Voyager but so far I have not been able to bring myself to watch Enterprise again. I don't hate it...it just didn't reach the point where I cared that much about it or the characters except for Trip and we know what happened there. I made it through the deaths of Tasha and Jadzia...but for whatever reason Trip's still bothers me after all this time.
 
I think having problems with continuity issues in a prequel is a valid concern. If this was Star Trek in the 25th century we would not be having this discussion
No more than any other show. And yes, a 25th Century show would generate continuity concerns.

Just because the other shows had minor mistakes it doesn't mean it's okay for a prequel series set before those shows to impose major continuity errors. It's like saying "he stole an apple so it's okay for me to steal an apple". Being a prequel it had a duty to stick to the facts. No Enterprise NX-01 played any part in the on screen history of Trek until 2001 and no amount of retconning and backwards bending is going to change that
The "facts" are what ever pops up on screen. That includes new information from new installments. Spock doesn't have a brother, until he does. Kirk didn't date Carol Marcus, until he did (In fact Carol Marcus is never mention in TOS. I guess she's not as important to Jim as Ruth :lol:). There isn't a ringship Enterprise, until there is. There isn't an NX-01, until there is. That's how fiction works. Stuff is constantly being added to the "past".

Nothing after the explosion of Romulus and Spock's disappearance is written in stone as far as the Prime Universe goes. In 2001 Trek began with TOS and ended with Voyager's finale. The future of the franchise had not been written yet and still hasn't been apart from the Abrams movies set in a different universe.
And nothing prior to the Cage was written in stone until Enterprise.

The thread asks the question "what is the worst continuity error in Star Trek history?".

My answer is Enterprise, a prequel full of continuity errors.
Nah. The only one that ever held up to scrutiny was the cloaking device in "Minefield". A better record than the other shows.

Riker and Troi casually using the holodeck during "The Pegasus" as if Riker's entire career isn't about to be ripped away from him. Their demeanours in this episode are completely wrong as is the timeframe available to them to take part in this silly escapade.
Not sure what the continuity error is here. TATV is a horrible episode. But that's not a continuity issue.


Phlox finding a cure for Borg assimilation. The Borg showing up on the NX-01. Not one person thought to "google" that incident in the 24th century? Janeway can look up an unimportant captain's log from 100 years earlier but Picard can't look up this very Borg-like incident from before Q Who?
Since Earth and the NX-01 weren't attacked by "The Borg" why would Picard be googling the Borg? The facts are the Borg (or at least a culture of cyborgs) have been a known threat for decades prior to "Q Who". ("Scorpion")The Hansons must have gotten their information from the NX-01 logs and the accounts of the 23rd Century El-Alurian refugees. (Generations) Then there are Romulan records. ("The Neutral Zone") So,"The Borg" are part of the historical record going back Centuries. Enterprise builds on the current state of continuity of the Borg. Looking at the episode, Picard went to Guinan, who had first hand experience with the Borg, rather than a computer,which doesn't mean that information isn't available. It also makes more sense dramatically.

As for Phlox's cure, three words: The Borg adapt.

NEXT!

Trip failed to mention the aliens he encountered had enormous ears and were obsessed with profit? Hmmm. Who does that sound like?
Who says he didn't? There was no visual record of a race call "the Ferengi" available to the E-D. (kind of the point of the episode) The profit driven, big eared aliens encountered by the NX-01 were not called "the Ferengi". No reason to link the two, until DaiMon Tarr appears on screen. From that point on the profit driven, big eared aliens are the Ferengi. That's how xeno-anthropology works.

NEXT!


The Defiant, complete with state of the art 23rd century machinery, arrives in the 22nd century of the Mirror Univese. Over 100 years later technology has not progressed at all by the time of Mirror Mirror?
Cultural and technological stagnation are not unknown in the real world.

More anthropology.

What else you got?
 
The Defiant, complete with state of the art 23rd century machinery, arrives in the 22nd century of the Mirror Univese. Over 100 years later technology has not progressed at all by the time of Mirror Mirror?
Cultural and technological stagnation are not unknown in the real world.

Especially in a society like the Terran Empire, which is probably not very intelligent as far as engineering goes (just look at Mirror Trip, who is badly scarred by radiation produced by the Imperial Starfleet's shoddily constructed engines). They probably had no idea how to reverse-engineer the Defiant's advanced tech.
 
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Different strokes. I find the characters in Voyager to be the worst group in Trek. And Voyager is at the bottom of list when I rank the shows. It's the only Trek show I stopped watching.
Well, on this I will agree. ENT is not on the bottom of my list, and has one of the best episodes in Star Trek in Terra Prime.

VOY, however, is not enjoyable for me. The fact that Janeway became among the highest ranking admirals seen on screen after all that happened in VOY just makes me go :sigh:

I'd put Enterprise at the bottom of my list but I don't think Voyager was particularly great either. Berman and Braga should have hung it up long before Enterprise and handed the franchise over to someone prepared to keep it fresh. After the first 3 Trek shows I couldn't help but think Voyager and Enterprise were running on empty and it effected Enterprise worse, in my opinion, because it was running on empty from day one.

I absolutely agree. Star Trek hit rock bottom with Enterprise and I thank God it never went to the fifth season.
 
Also, another continuity error is in "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" is that the ship they are on is an Intrepid class which reused stock footage of Voyager, including registry number. Whoops ;)

Not just that, but the Bellerophon's mess hall also has a kitchen like Voyager has, despite the fact the kitchen is not part of the original design and is in fact an addition Neelix made. In Caretaker we see a wall of additional replicators in the spot that the kitchen's counter eventually is, and we learn the kitchen space itself was originally the captain's dining room.

I guess when the Doctor made his report to Starfleet Command in Message in a Bottle, someone liked the kitchen idea and ordered the change on all Intrepid class ships?
 
The ones that cause me the most ire are:


  • - Romulan ships having cloaking devices in Archer's era, despite this being totally uneccecary to the plot, and contradicting one of the most famous (and best) Star Trek episodes of all time - Balance of Terror, where Spock acts like cloaking is something new.


  • - A Klingon K'Tinga Class starship showing up in Enterprise, even though some guy had worked his ass off building a new CGI model for a new Klingon ship, in his spare time. The reason? "Not enough windows." Jesus H Christ. Add them in subsequent episodes then!

Those two still just stand out as awful - because they weren't exactly hard to spot. Something where like a bit of dialogue about Q is contradicted is not going to be remembered - it can't be easily looked up. On the other hand, these two fundamentally re-wrote the history of the show, were not necessary to the story, and could have been prevented by simply asking any fan.
 
Continuity error: in "TATV", Riker and Troi look significantly older than in "The Pegasus." :p

Kor
 
  • - A Klingon K'Tinga Class starship showing up in Enterprise, even though some guy had worked his ass off building a new CGI model for a new Klingon ship, in his spare time. The reason? "Not enough windows." Jesus H Christ. Add them in subsequent episodes then!

Well, the Klingons were involved in the Temporal Cold War. Perhaps Vorok was an agent from the future secretly there to confiscate holotechnology from being released too early.
 
Kirk didn't date Carol Marcus, until he did (In fact Carol Marcus is never mention in TOS. I guess she's not as important to Jim as Ruth :lol:).

Personally, I like to think it's Carol Marcus who Kirk and Mitchell are talking about in Where No Man Has Gone Before.

MITCHELL: If I hadn't aimed that little blonde lab technician at you...

KIRK: You what? You planned that?

MITCHELL: Well you wanted me to think, didn't you? I outlined her whole campaign for her.

KIRK: I almost married her!
 
  • - A Klingon K'Tinga Class starship showing up in Enterprise, even though some guy had worked his ass off building a new CGI model for a new Klingon ship, in his spare time. The reason? "Not enough windows." Jesus H Christ. Add them in subsequent episodes then!

Well, the Klingons were involved in the Temporal Cold War. Perhaps Vorok was an agent from the future secretly there to confiscate holotechnology from being released too early.

We really shouldn't have to make up absurd stuff like this to wish it away, should we? :)

I wish they had replaced that scene for the Blu Ray release.
 
Kirk didn't date Carol Marcus, until he did (In fact Carol Marcus is never mention in TOS. I guess she's not as important to Jim as Ruth :lol:).

Personally, I like to think it's Carol Marcus who Kirk and Mitchell are talking about in Where No Man Has Gone Before.

MITCHELL: If I hadn't aimed that little blonde lab technician at you...

KIRK: You what? You planned that?

MITCHELL: Well you wanted me to think, didn't you? I outlined her whole campaign for her.

KIRK: I almost married her!
I'd hope future inventor of the Genesis Matrix and PhD Carol Marcus was more than a lab tech in the 2260s.
 
Why couldn't she be a lab technician, as a twenty-to-thirty-year-old young scientist? Perhaps while working towards her Master's Degree or Ph.D?

And, of course, we're taking Gary's word for it. She might've been a Doctor running a full-on genetic research lab, but he was just being a little misogynistic about it.
 
What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!

Whatever happens in the first episode of the new series will be howled about for ages.
 
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