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The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion

I doubt Enid had anything to do with The Wolves, all implication seems to be The Wolves didn't know about Alexandria until they found Aaron's rucksack with the Alexandria promotional materials in it and that is what drove the town. Enid likely was planning on leaving, hence the angst with her and the other kid as well as the general Teenage Angst Love Triangle. I'd expect to see her again, however.

Yeah I didn't get that sense either. I think by "we" she just meant "people who were able to easily make their way in and out of Alexandria".

And even as much of an apathetic loner as she may be, I'm sure she would still at least say something if she knew there were these Wolves nearby who were watching the town and about to massacre everybody inside.
 
The actress that played Enid revealed on TTD that her character had been without her parents for about a week before finding Alexandria. She wanted it to be a longer period of time, but that's what she was told. (by the director? writer? she didn't say who)
 
(Though how did Morgan get to Alexandria ahead of the rest of the "parade" handlers?)

I didn't catch it the first time, but in the repeat of this episode, in the "Previously, on TWD", they showed Rick telling Morgan to head back, i think to tell them that this "practice" time , which should have been a couple hours, would actually be the real thing, and thus many more hours, so they wouldn't need to worry.

But excellent timing. And apparently, from the previews, the crew isn't heading back right away, but "course correcting' the herd.

I'll post more on this later. While i am not so sure i agree with Kevin Smith that this is one of the top 4 TWD episodes (mine would be "Clear:, Seaosn 6 premiere, and the one where Morgan fails to shoot his Walker-wife -- all Morgan-centric episodes), it was definitely quite good.

LOTS of surprises, form Ninja Carol to the reason behind the horn, i was all in.

I am also surprised #NinjaCarol wasn't the #Hashtag of the night. Rather Kevin Smith repeatedly called it a burka or hajib.
 
I didn't catch it the first time, but in the repeat of this episode, in the "Previously, on TWD", they showed Rick telling Morgan to head back, i think to tell them that this "practice" time , which should have been a couple hours, would actually be the real thing, and thus many more hours, so they wouldn't need to worry.
In the premiere last week, Rick told Morgan to head back and tell everyone exactly what happened after Rick killed the one guy who got bit while shepherding the herd.
 
Brilliant. One of my all-time favourite episodes.

They just came out of nowhere. When Carol sees the guy with the machete just cut that Alexandria resident down all of a sudden, I genuinely was like... fuck!

Then bang, the Wolves have just taken over and it's an all-out assault. I'm then shouting at the screen...WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE!? Then the truck hits and the horn goes and only then did I realise... Oh' that's why none of the useful people are around.

Finally, the molly-coddled idiots of Alexandria find out what's out there and demonstrate epic incompetence. How these people survived this long is anyone's guess. Thank God for bad-ass Carol. She absolutely bossed this episode. I'm a big fan of Morgan but his cumbaya approach started to irritate me. For the first time, I felt Morgan was being a tit. Grow up mate. It's the zombie apocalypse. Part of me thougt he'd get the ultimate come-uppance when he met his old Wolves friend in the house.

The episode absolutely flew by. Season six has started with two beauties.

How did the Wolves know to attack when the Alexadria bad-asses were all away herding zombies. Or was that pure coincidence?

Poor Aaron.
 
I think the Wolves were just lucky that the town's badasses -and likely most of the capable men and women of the town- weren't around.

I liked the side-story with the surgeon lady. I agreed with Tara's approach to convincing her to perform the surgery; it was really a case of "if the woman's injuries are fatal and she has little chance then really, not much is lost by at least trying to save her since there's no other options."

In TTD they seemed to suggest that everyone who saw badass Carol was killed, but they forgot about the woman in the town's pantry who Carol told to stay inside and had to quickly teach how to use a gun. (You point the shooty-bit and the person and pull the trigger. Hard, I know.)

So be interesting to see what develops from that.
 
Thank God for bad-ass Carol. She absolutely bossed this episode

...but do not underestimate her tears; she's tired of losing people--or rather, the innocent. Her Super Carol days might be headed for a psychologically bumpy road.



How did the Wolves know to attack when the Alexadria bad-asses were all away herding zombies. Or was that pure coincidence?

Poor Aaron.

I think its clear they located Alexandria and simply scouted it out--waiting for a time when any (assumed) stronger members were not around. It would not be hard to do that, since all it would take is watching the zombie herd mission and notice the same group of strong members (AKA series stars) are always out and armed.
 
When Morgan was entering that house at the end I mistook it for the armory. My thought was "oh shit! the woman guarding the armory is going to shoot Morgan!"
 
When Morgan was entering that house at the end I mistook it for the armory. My thought was "oh shit! the woman guarding the armory is going to shoot Morgan!"

I know, right? Shades of Night of The Living Dead. ("One more for the fire!")
 
I suspect Enid might be in with the Wolves. If i am not mistaken,in the last season, she often left ASZ to go outside. She might have run into the Wolves and was recruited by them. She could have given the info that Rick and the other "stronger" residents were out planning something and the Wolves decided to attack at that time.

When you are teen, you can get easily braiwashed by cults.

BTW, why were the Wolves taking some people away in chains ?
 
I rewatched the episode and i did notice that the Wolves did suffer a rather high bodycount during the attack.

The Bald Wolf that Marcus and the priest captured, that Carol killed later, said to them that the Wolves were trying to free the ASZ folks because they are trapped and people don't belong here anymore. Freeing them from what ? Life during the zombie apocalypse ?

The Wolves sounds like a demented cult to me.
 
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I suspect Enid might be in with the Wolves. If i am not mistaken,in the last season, she often left ASZ to go outside. She might have run into the Wolves and was recruited by them. She could have given the info that Rick and the other "stronger" residents were out planning something and the Wolves decided to attack at that time.

Earlier this year (during S5), I thought the wolves were within the ASZ walls (meaning a mole lived there), but the S5 finale--and this episode points to Aaron's abandoned backpack being the source of information about the ASZ's location.

Another thing: if Enid was with the Wolves, based on her unfinished line:

"There are too many blind spots. That's how we were able to--"

--then did she fail to get the memo on what a raid means? Or was she just a well trained mole acting her part?

I say that because she was just staring at the scene unfold as Ron was being chased. If she was really "in" with the Wolves, some of her behavior would not make sense.

However, if she turns out to be one of the Wolves--or a plant for another group (perhaps the group who kidnaps Daryl, as seen in the season teaser), will this be another big, dramatic moment for Carl, if he's forced to either abandon Enid to some fate--or kill her?


BTW, why were the Wolves taking some people away in chains ?

Isn't that how they build up their numbers? Or are they using captives for other reasons?
 
were trying to free the ASZ folks because they are trapped and people don't belong here anymore. Freeing them from what ? Life during the zombie apocalypse ?

Freeing them from sane civilisation (which is now over).

"There are too many blind spots. That's how we were able to--"

I think Enid will turn out to be with
Negan.

She's definitely with someone but I think this episode strongly suggested, that it isn't the Wolves. I also think that's why she decided to leave. Spying on them was fine but dealing with crazy cults attacking them..."I didn't sign up for this, I'm off back to my people."
 
Not sure if this is a spoiler, as the info was pretty vague, but what the actress said on The Talking Dead was [SPOILERS] She would return, and the audience would be pleasantly surprised. She also mentioned how she was now a loner & didn't want to get close to anyone, so she wouldn't be hurt like that again. So while i'm guessing she won't be at NinjaCarol or ZenMorgan standards, she'll probably save someone in the nick of time (somehow) [/SPOILERS]

I don't know if there are levels of Wolves..but these guys seem pretty weak. I mean vicious, in attack, but our guys could easily take 'em. I also wonder if they have run out of ammo, or is it just lower level people don't get projectile weapons. (i.e. they need to "prove" themselves).
 
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hooks;11319553 I think Enid will turn out to be with [spoiler=comics said:
Negan.[/spoiler]

That's definitely a possibility, since the series has already been in the planning stages of introducing that plotline. Hopefully, she will be turn out to be have cause for her behavior, and not be another half-assed promise of something deeper for the character, much in the way we were promised Bob's past would play some greater role in the plot...but did not.


Not sure if this is a spoiler, as the info was pretty vague, but what the actress said on The Talking Dead was
She would return, and the audience would be pleasantly surprised. She also mentioned how she was now a loner & didn't want to get close to anyone, so she wouldn't be hurt like that again. So while i'm guessing she won't be at NinjaCarol or ZenMorgan standards, she'll probably save someone in the nick of time (somehow)

Will that someone be the obvious guess--Carl? Or will she save the group, only to be killed?


I don't know if there are levels of Wolves..but these guys seem pretty weak. I mean vicious, in attack, but our guys could easily take 'em. I also wonder if they have run out of ammo, or is it just lower level people don't get projectile weapons. (i.e. they need to "prove" themselves).

Maybe they are forced to prove their viciousness with close contact kills, using hand tools and knives. A gun is a luxury--you can kill from long distances (think season three's Axel) and never know the full impact of the brutal acts committed. Getting blood and gore on their hands, plus, they seem to be directed to paint a "W" on their foreheads in the blood of a victim, and that cannot be accomplished if (for example) a Wolf shoots someone behind the fences of a compaund, but he cannot breach its walls.
 
Maybe this has been mentioned earlier, but I just got caught up last night. Does anybody realize that the beginning of this season's story coincides with the comic that was released when The Walking Dead debuted in 2010?
 
It's interesting to see how brutal and "feral" The Wolves are, it's still fairly important to remember that we're only a little over 2-years into the ZA at this point and apparently these men and women went from ordinary, every-day, people going through life to being utter savages. Yeah, there's a segment of our population who're savages and are only held back by the confines of society and those who aren't usually find themselves in prison sooner or later, but The Wolves seem like a rather large group of people who went savage quickly. I'd think most people would be more like our group. More-or-less still compassionate humans but battle hardened into being jaded and cynical; brutal if need-be.

I may be a cynic but sod two years, I reckon some perfectly normal people could potentially go feral in just two months, maybe even two weeks. When people get scared or hungry enough they'll do things they'd have never countenanced before. Brutality can, sadly, become mundane very quickly, especially where there's a mob dynamic at work. How does the quote go "we're nine meals away from anarchy"

Brilliant. One of my all-time favourite episodes.

They just came out of nowhere. When Carol sees the guy with the machete just cut that Alexandria resident down all of a sudden, I genuinely was like... fuck!

Then bang, the Wolves have just taken over and it's an all-out assault. I'm then shouting at the screen...WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE!? Then the truck hits and the horn goes and only then did I realise... Oh' that's why none of the useful people are around.

Finally, the molly-coddled idiots of Alexandria find out what's out there and demonstrate epic incompetence. How these people survived this long is anyone's guess. Thank God for bad-ass Carol. She absolutely bossed this episode. I'm a big fan of Morgan but his cumbaya approach started to irritate me. For the first time, I felt Morgan was being a tit. Grow up mate. It's the zombie apocalypse. Part of me thougt he'd get the ultimate come-uppance when he met his old Wolves friend in the house.

The episode absolutely flew by. Season six has started with two beauties.

How did the Wolves know to attack when the Alexadria bad-asses were all away herding zombies. Or was that pure coincidence?

Poor Aaron.

Pretty much sums up my feelings. I'd completely blanked out the horn going off at the end of the previous episode. For a minute I thought this was going to be a dull domestic episode...then Carol's looking out of the window and suddenly I'm like Shiiiittttt! :lol:

It really is amazing that Alexandria hasn't fallen prey to some group before now, either of the living or the dead.

Carol to the rescue, yet again. I like Morgan but he's really starting to hack me off now. Yes Carol killing the downed Wolf was going to far (even if you just delay killing him till you get information, intel is important) but in self defence trying not to kill the attackers is only going to backfire sooner or later.

What was the whole thing about the A painted on the porch that Carl saw? If Enid was an inside man could this have been a signal? 'spare this house' something like that?

Chalk me up as someone else who thought Morgan was going to get shot by the woman in the closet!

Top notch episode.

One question, I got the impression that the wolves just didn't have guns, or bullets, and that this wasn't a conscious decision, a cult thing, they just didn't have them. This does seem odd, but the wolf Morgan saw off clearly stopped to pick up a gun. Guess things will become clearer soon enough.
 
They've thrown the Wolves at us pretty early which suggests to me that they might just be machete fodder. How interesting can mindless, feral maniacs be as long term enemies? They dealt with the crazies at Terminus pretty swiftly and moved on which was necessary and I suspect that will also happen here.

It's also the reason I agree with Carol's actions. Taking a prisoner is pretty worthless. There is no meaningful intel to be gained from feral psycho's living in the woods. All you need to know is that they're there and will need to be dealt with; that's it.

Their early introduction in season six makes me think they're just the starter and the main course is still to come.
 
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