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Dark Matter (Firefly ripoff?)

MarsWeeps

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I just started watching Dark Matter on Netflix and it's pretty decent so far but it seems to me like it's almost a Firefly reboot. Anyone else watch it?
 
Pal, if you think Firefly's the only thing it's ripped off you haven't seen enough of it yet, or you weren't paying attention.
 
I enjoyed it, but I won't deny that it wasn't exactly the most original thing ever.
 
I doubt anyone can make a show that people won't compare to other shows at this point. There are several crew members and they are in a ship and they go places! Just like etc etc.
Dark Matter is ok and I don't really see rip offs, just the same genre.
 
Dark Matter is ok and I don't really see rip offs, just the same genre.

Yeah, not necessarily a rip off but I think Firefly was definitely the template. Good show so far, but only 13 episodes in the first season.
 
I'm pretty ambivalent about Dark Matter in general, but I wouldn't call it a Firefly rip-off exactly. Any similarities are pretty much just superficial and since the show itself is so highly derivative and clichéd you could probably draw comparisons to any number of vaguely similar properties.

Firefly, Blake's 7, Cowboy Beebop, Outlaw Star all feature a rag-tag group of outlaws on a spaceship, flying about at the fringes of society, making ends meet and fighting The Man. And that's just in sci-fi.
 
Isn't Firefly a ripoff of Blake's Seven?

I don't know, I never saw Blake's Seven.

It starts off with the evil and oppressive totalitarian government brainwashing some children into believing that they have been sexually molested by a radical political opponent to the "Federation" (Blake).

After Blake was convicted to life imprisonment on a penal colony in another solar system, half way there, the prison transport finds a massive alien ship adrift that is of an unknown classification from parts even more unknown, but it's ten times faster and 10 times more powerful than anything the Federation has in their fleet.

The convicted kiddy fiddler escapes, takes the alien battleship, and decides to knock over the Government of Earth, the Terran Federation with the help of 5 other convicts from the Federation Transport London, and probably set up free elections so that the people can actually have a voice in their own leadership.

They pick up a girl telepath an episode or two later, and the Blake counts himself as one of his own Seven, but it's basically a story about the enlightened face of terrorism smashing the Federation, which doesn't sound much like Firefly to me.
 
I just started watching Dark Matter on Netflix and it's pretty decent so far but it seems to me like it's almost a Firefly reboot. Anyone else watch it?
Put a bunch of mercenaries together on a spaceship, and it's automatically a ripoff of a short-lived television series watched by a total of 15 people over a decade ago... :rolleyes:

I swear to God, sci-fi fans shouldn't be allowed on the Internet.

Myself included.
 
I'm pretty ambivalent about Dark Matter in general, but I wouldn't call it a Firefly rip-off exactly. Any similarities are pretty much just superficial and since the show itself is so highly derivative and clichéd you could probably draw comparisons to any number of vaguely similar properties.

Firefly, Blake's 7, Cowboy Beebop, Outlaw Star all feature a rag-tag group of outlaws on a spaceship, flying about at the fringes of society, making ends meet and fighting The Man. And that's just in sci-fi.
Yep.

I just started watching Dark Matter on Netflix and it's pretty decent so far but it seems to me like it's almost a Firefly reboot. Anyone else watch it?
Put a bunch of mercenaries together on a spaceship, and it's automatically a ripoff of a short-lived television series watched by a total of 15 people over a decade ago... :rolleyes:

I swear to God, sci-fi fans shouldn't be allowed on the Internet.

Myself included.
Yep.
 
Blake's 7 is about a small group of people in active rebellion against a repressive government. Firefly is about a group of outlaws actively trying to avoid all contact with their repressive government. Blake's 7's ship is a powerhouse. Firefly's ship is a rattrap.

Their only significant commonality is the small group of people.

And to answer the OP question: Three is Jayne. That's about all it took from Firefly.
 
Wow...I wonder why they even took the time to create a new CGI for this space station, they should have just flat out stolen it.

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I just started watching Dark Matter on Netflix and it's pretty decent so far but it seems to me like it's almost a Firefly reboot. Anyone else watch it?

Dude, everything SyFy makes these days is a Firefly derivative in some manner. Dark Matter, Killjoys, Defiance, The Expanse, they all share common elements with Firefly.

And no, I'm not holding Firefly up on a pedestal as some sort of ultimate original masterpiece. And of the shows I mentioned, I actually like Defiance and enjoyed The Expanse novels enough to look forward to the show.
 
It starts off with the evil and oppressive totalitarian government brainwashing some children into believing that they have been sexually molested by a radical political opponent to the "Federation" (Blake).

After Blake was convicted to life imprisonment on a penal colony in another solar system, half way there, the prison transport finds a massive alien ship adrift that is of an unknown classification from parts even more unknown, but it's ten times faster and 10 times more powerful than anything the Federation has in their fleet.

The convicted kiddy fiddler escapes, takes the alien battleship, and decides to knock over the Government of Earth, the Terran Federation with the help of 5 other convicts from the Federation Transport London, and probably set up free elections so that the people can actually have a voice in their own leadership.

They pick up a girl telepath an episode or two later, and the Blake counts himself as one of his own Seven, but it's basically a story about the enlightened face of terrorism smashing the Federation, which doesn't sound much like Firefly to me.

As I understand it, the Alliance from FF is not even close to being as evil as the Terran Federation.
 
We never really knew the full extent or intent of the Alliance, but we do know they created a Pax drug to make people docile and do what the government wanted and created a psychic super weapon that clearly had no good intents, so much so that even thinking the names of secret government operatives in her presance ended up bringing out a secret government muderous operative. And they were willing to extend an entire fleet to destroy Firefly.
 
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