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Hey, I never noticed that before....

The detail on the rank stripes in "The Cage" and "Where No Man...".

According to an anecdote told at a convention by Richard Arnold, the rank stripes in "The Cage" were created very quickly. They are gold-painted, wide elastic bands, originally used to bundle envelopes, co-opted from the Desilu mail room!

Not sure I believe that based on the detail in the screencap Bill posted - I can't imagine they'd put in more effort for a briefly glimpsed junior crewman, and considering the source...

Therin is likely talking about the full rank stripes. They do look like banding straps now that he mentions it.
 
According to an anecdote told at a convention by Richard Arnold, the rank stripes in "The Cage" were created very quickly. They are gold-painted, wide elastic bands, originally used to bundle envelopes, co-opted from the Desilu mail room!

Not sure I believe that based on the detail in the screencap Bill posted - I can't imagine they'd put in more effort for a briefly glimpsed junior crewman, and considering the source...

Therin is likely talking about the full rank stripes. They do look like banding straps now that he mentions it.

Can somebody pull up a screen capture?

I'm hesitant to believe any original series related trivia when it comes from the mouth of Richard Arnold. I'm writing a fact check of his Mission Log interview currently, and it seems like he's fallen for a lot of Roddenberry's tall tales.

Plus, it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd make the extra effort for a supporting player, but go cheap on the costumes for their lead.
 
Well, they're not "rubber bands" - however, it seems like you could get gold fabric trim which would both be simple to acquire and easier to work with than plastic banding straps painted gold.
 
Based on this remark (in another thread):
Watching "The Cage" and I never realized there is a small trickle of water coming off of the rocks just below the Talosian elevator on the planet surface.

And this remark:
One day I might get the BluRays just so I can see if there's something in the live-action footage I might have missed all these years.

Hey, wait a minute... That could make an interesting thread. :)

Here we are.

For those of you who have TOS on BluRay can you share something you saw onscreen that somehow you never noticed before in all your previous viewings over the years?

Unfortunately I see a lot of 'sanding marks' and areas where you can tell the black paint has been touched up on the Bridge consoles from time to time. I DON'T fault to production crew as there's no way in hell they thought that would ever be discernible because I'm sure they never thought anyone would view these episodes at such high resolution on giant clear monitors 45+ years later. ;)

It also really highlights that in general the stunt doubles they often use look VERY different from the actual actor they're standing in for (most notable in 'Court Martial' and 'Space Seed'.)

Also in "Arena' it's really obvious Captain Kirk is either wearing black climbing shoes or tennis shoes after he's transported from the Bridge to the alien Planet (aka vasquez Rocks in California) :lol:

yep, in the days of the original broadcasts and in the 1970ies, the above wasn't really visible or so blatantly obvious at the TV resolution of that era.
 
I've heard (never seen it for myself) that to watch TOS in HD television treatment, the seam between Leonard Nimoy's prosthetics and his real ears is obvious.
 
William Shatner's toupee seam is now more evident than ever before. Especially in the teaser for "Charlie X." Spock's ear seam is visible more often, too. This is the downside of HD viewing. There's a point where too much is revealed. I don't always like to look behind the curtain. Just because I know a magician is performing an illusion doesn't mean I want to see how he does the trick.
 
I've heard (never seen it for myself) that to watch TOS in HD television treatment, the seam between Leonard Nimoy's prosthetics and his real ears is obvious.

I'll have to take a closer look the next time I watch. But nothing stands out as glaringly obvious when it comes to his ears.
 
Unfortunately I see a lot of 'sanding marks' and areas where you can tell the black paint has been touched up on the Bridge consoles from time to time. I DON'T fault to production crew as there's no way in hell they thought that would ever be discernible because I'm sure they never thought anyone would view these episodes at such high resolution on giant clear monitors 45+ years later. ;)

Yep, there is one episode where you can faintly see those little football-shaped inserts used to repair knots in plywood - but painted over and at 60s TV resolution you never knew they were there. The wires on the Sylvia and Korob puppets are more visible as well.

I only notice Spock's ear seam on rare occasions, so it isn't too obtrusive. I'm usually more distracted by the amount of eye-shadow on particular characters, particularly Spock and Sulu (but that's been since the upgraded video masters rolled out in the early 80s).

However, everything that doesn't look that great in HD is made up for by the occasional amazing thing, like the matte painting of Rigel in "The Cage", which looks incredible on bluray.
 
Plus, it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd make the extra effort for a supporting player, but go cheap on the costumes for their lead.

I wonder if at some point they had plans for "Garison" to be a more prominent character. In one of the script revisions he changed from "crewman" to "Bridge Chief Petty Officer," and was apparently given a special insignia to go along with it. To give a more naval feel, or to be like the bosun in Forbidden Planet maybe?

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Whatever that banding/strapping material was, it took the metallic gold really well.
 
Plus, it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd make the extra effort for a supporting player, but go cheap on the costumes for their lead.

I wonder if at some point they had plans for "Garison" to be a more prominent character. In one of the script revisions he changed from "crewman" to "Bridge Chief Petty Officer," and was apparently given a special insignia to go along with it. To give a more naval feel, or to be like the bosun in Forbidden Planet maybe?

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Whatever that banding/strapping material was, it took the metallic gold really well.

Adam Roarke (Garrison) was intended to be a regular, believe it or not. He had a contract and everything.
 
There is also a nice coffee stain down the side of the M-5 control box on the side of Kirk's chair. Maybe that's why M-5 went crazy; coffee in the circuits...:rommie:

"This unit must . . . de-caffeinate". ;)

Maybe M-5 also dispensed coffee. After all, what else would it expect of Kirk but sitting there and sipping a latte after it deemed him to be "non-essential personnel."
 
There is also a nice coffee stain down the side of the M-5 control box on the side of Kirk's chair. Maybe that's why M-5 went crazy; coffee in the circuits...:rommie:

"This unit must . . . de-caffeinate". ;)

Maybe M-5 also dispensed coffee. After all, what else would it expect of Kirk but sitting there and sipping a latte after it deemed him to be "non-essential personnel."
Nomad looks more likely to make and dispense coffee.
 
I'm hesitant to believe any original series related trivia when it comes from the mouth of Richard Arnold. I'm writing a fact check of his Mission Log interview currently, and it seems like he's fallen for a lot of Roddenberry's tall tales.

I recently re-listened to that podcast and I thought the same thing I thought on my initial listen: "This would be ripe for Harvey's 'Star Trek Fact Check.'"

Arnold pontificates a lot on stuff he has no real first hand knowledge of.
 
Also in "Arena' it's really obvious Captain Kirk is either wearing black climbing shoes or tennis shoes after he's transported from the Bridge to the alien Planet

yep, in the days of the original broadcasts and in the 1970ies, the above wasn't really visible or so blatantly obvious at the TV resolution of that era.

Actually, I was very aware of the stunt boots back in the 70s, because the lace-ups or the flat boots did not match any of the distinctive "hero" styles the actors regularly used, and actors also ran in a more natural fashion when wearing the stunt shoes than in the thick-heeled boots.
 
Arnold's "facts" aren't factual.

I think my "favorite" gaffe from that interview has to be Arnold's rant about how the WGA screwed Roddenberry and Coon out of the full writing credit for "Bread and Circuses."

Roddenberry and Coon share the "written by" credit for the episode. No other writer has a credit!
 
Arnold's "facts" aren't factual.

I think my "favorite" gaffe from that interview has to be Arnold's rant about how the WGA screwed Roddenberry and Coon out of the full writing credit for "Bread and Circuses."

Roddenberry and Coon share the "written by" credit for the episode. No other writer has a credit!

And all the hoops Arnold goes through to explain why the episode has a reference to the "son of god" and how it must've slipped by Roddenberry!

Um, Richard, Roddenberry's revised script is the one that got shot and he was still writing pages as the episode was being filmed.
 
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