Series 9 - Coming September 19! (And a trailer!)

[Turbo]

Yeah, that was rather a large cheat, though I suspect Matt Smith leaving early had a lot to do with it. I'd love to see Big Finish fill that gap when they start doing Eleventh Doctor stories.

And as to the Christmas special, a short gap could give more credence to that crazy Sherlock/Doctor Who crossover rumor.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm hoping for a decent Dalek story. There hasn't been one since RTD.

If you want to be completely accurate, there hasn't really been a decent Dalek story since Eccleston's season. Although Into the Dalek did have its moments, I guess.

Not even the Stolen Earth three parter?

Again, it has its moments, but it is largely fanwank. Although, I did enjoy Davros.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

A bit of fanwank is nice and ok sometimes, especially if it is done like the Stolen Earth story.

It should not be like that all the time, but I always enjoy it.

It shows the impact the Doctor has on the world in general and his companion specifically even long after they go their seperate ways.
The world might be faced with the biggest alien invasion ever, but they all keep fighting no matter what where they probably had quietly given up if not for their time with the Doctor.
They might not all make the right decision all the time (Jack, Martha, Rose, Harriette Jones...), but they are the best they can be all the time and come through at the end.

 

[Starkers]

The stolen Earth storyline was really good until the dancing Daleks resolution.

I still think Into the Dalek and even Asylum are good Dalek stories myself. For all that its terrible Victory did give us that iconic Dalek WW2 poster and the Ironclads

 

[MacLeod]

Seems like the season is starting later than previous seasons.

And once again, they've extended the time period of longest gap between episodes, we're now at nine months between Last Christmas and the new season. Remember when Moffat said he was going to cut back on the gap between seasons? Instead it's been extended twice under his reign.

Plus this means the season won't end until December 5, essentially three weeks prior to Christmas. Which I guess means we won't get the traditional Christmas special preview at Children in Need.

Well aside from the years gap between 1989 and 1996 and the 8 year gap between 1996 and 2005. 9 months is nothing compared to those gaps.

But perhaps the BBC just feel it performs better in Autumn/Winter months. Rather than the Spring/Summer Months.

As for CiN perhaps they'll be a minisode like "Time Crash"

 

[Ithekro]

That, Sherlock crossover shenanigans, or maybe even the Eight Doctor again.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

That, Sherlock crossover shenanigans, or maybe even the Eight Doctor again.

Are there rumors of an actual Sherlock crossover, or are we talking about Moffat's vague statement at SDCC that he has an idea for one but the actors and Sue Vertue aren't on board?

 

[ATimson]

Are there rumors of an actual Sherlock crossover, or are we talking about Moffat's vague statement at SDCC that he has an idea for one but the actors and Sue Vertue aren't on board?

It didn't even go as far as him having an idea (at least in the one I saw, during the Lego Dimensions panel) - just that he was willing.

 

[Candlelight]

I'm hoping for a decent Dalek story. There hasn't been one since RTD.

If you want to be completely accurate, there hasn't really been a decent Dalek story since Eccleston's season. Although Into the Dalek did have its moments, I guess.

Dalek - 8/10

Great story. Great character for the Dalek. The Dalek actually slaughtered people, something which Moffat is crap at getting his Daleks to do.

Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways - 9/10

Brilliant. Best of the new series. Plus a regeneration to boot.

Army of Ghosts / Doomsday - 7/10

Great story but overshadowed by the impending departure of Rose.

Daleks in Manhatten / Evolution of the Daleks - 6/10

If you look past the pig slaves and six-penis-head Sec it's not really a bad story, and paints the Daleks in a very tragic light.

The Stolen Earth / Journey's End - 4/10

Very average story which tries to do for companions what The Five Doctors did for Time Lords - and fails. Davros was never a favourite of mine, and the 'Daleks lose control' scene at the end was just embarrassing.

Victory of the Daleks - 5/10

It had potential. I try and see that whenever I watch it but it's hard.

The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang - 6/10

Not a proper Dalek story but they feature prominently. At the end of RTD's first season the Dalek death toll was off the scale. At the end of Moffat's the death toll was four (from memory).

Asylum of the Daleks - 5/10

Tried too hard for it's own good. The fanwank JNT-esque name dropping doesn't even save this one.

Into the Dalek - 2/10

Pathetic. Dr Who meets Fantastic Voyage. Embarrassing to watch but then you forget this is a kids show first. At least people get shot in this one.

 

[Mr Awe]

^ Disagree about Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways. The magical solution really spoiled it for me.

On the other hand, Into the Dalek was really good. I'd give that 8.5/10.

Mr Awe

 

[Candlelight]

^ Disagree about Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways. The magical solution really spoiled it for me.

I liked it but I'd hoped the Doctor would absorb the power from Rose before she wiped out the fleet, in order to save her life (from burning out). He then uses the power to destroy the Daleks, but injures himself in the process, triggering the regeneration.

It just seemed out of character for Rose to do it, and significantly weakened Eccleston's season in the last few minutes. Not to mention the reason for the Doctor's regeneration made little sense (Rose survives but the Doctor doesn't??).

Otherwise it was awesome.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Dalek - 10/10

Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways - 9/10

Army of Ghosts / Doomsday - 7/10

Daleks in Manhatten / Evolution of the Daleks - 3/10

Turn Left / The Stolen Earth / Journey's End - 8/10

Victory of the Daleks - 2/10

The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang - 8/10 (not really a Dalek story, though)

Asylum of the Daleks - 5/10

Day of the Doctor - 9/10 (not a Dalek story like others, but they're important in their inclusion)

Time of the Doctor - 8/10

Into the Dalek - 7,5/10

 

[Green Lantern]

Dalek - 9.5/10

Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways - 9.5/10

Army of Ghosts / Doomsday - 8.5/10

Daleks in Manhatten / Evolution of the Daleks - 6/10

Turn Left / The Stolen Earth / Journey's End - 8/10

Victory of the Daleks - 2.5/10

The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang - 3.25/10

Asylum of the Daleks - 3.5/10

Day of the Doctor - 9.75/10

Time of the Doctor - 3/10

Into the Dalek - 6.5/10


Not watched some of these in a while so I struggled judging some of these. But basically, Eccleston's Dalek stories and DotD are gold, Tennant's overall are very good, Smith's are pretty shit and Capaldi's thus far are quite standard.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Wait, you don't like the series 5 finale? I thought everyone loved that one.

 

[kirk55555]

Dalek - 10/10

Bad Wolf / The Parting of the Ways - 9/10

Army of Ghosts / Doomsday - 7.5/10

Daleks in Manhatten / Evolution of the Daleks - 5/10

Turn Left / The Stolen Earth / Journey's End - 9/10

Victory of the Daleks - 5/10

The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang - 8/10

Asylum of the Daleks - 7.5/10

Day of the Doctor - 9.5/10

Time of the Doctor - 7.75/10

Into the Dalek - 7.5/10

 

[DWF]

Wait, you don't like the series 5 finale? I thought everyone loved that one.

I didn't love it either and niether didn't did alot of people.

 

[The Wormhole]

Not to mention the reason for the Doctor's regeneration made little sense (Rose survives but the Doctor doesn't??).

A possible explanation that I've worked with is that when the energy first went inside Rose, it was at a low level, and raised incrementally while within her. Then when it transferred into the Doctor, it was already at a much higher level, and it was in fact the intensity of the energy rather than the energy itself the Doctor can't take. Although, I assume if it had been inside Rose a few minutes longer, she would have been past the point of safety as well.

 

[Candlelight]

Not to mention the reason for the Doctor's regeneration made little sense (Rose survives but the Doctor doesn't??).

A possible explanation that I've worked with is that when the energy first went inside Rose, it was at a low level, and raised incrementally while within her. Then when it transferred into the Doctor, it was already at a much higher level, and it was in fact the intensity of the energy rather than the energy itself the Doctor can't take. Although, I assume if it had been inside Rose a few minutes longer, she would have been past the point of safety as well.

Rose: Has power in her for a good five minutes, channels energy into Dalek fleet over a range of several hundred kilometres. Survives

The Doctor: Has the energy in him for less than 30 seconds, channels energy into the Tardis a few feet away. Forced to regenerate.

Just seems a bit silly to me, unless the Doctor was able to repair the damage to Rose at the cost of his own life, either in the Tardis or via the kiss.

Or you argue that Bad Wolf saved her in a very circular way.

 

[Green Lantern]

Wait, you don't like the series 5 finale? I thought everyone loved that one.

Wait, you don't like the series 5 finale? I thought everyone loved that one.

I didn't love it either and niether didn't did alot of people.

Well the series 5 finale was nothing special in the least. Rather dull really. No a big Smith fan AT ALL really, his whole era save for a few exceptions was just one large disappointment.

 

[The Wormhole]

The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang was probably the best of Moffat's finales. for whatever that's worth.