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^ But that could have just as easily been a throwaway reference to Harry Mudd and nothing more. People who've never read those comics would still understand it.
 
^I really doubt the filmmakers would draw anything from the comics.

And then on the other hand they make really strange extraneous references to it like in STID "The Mudd Incident."

Other way around. Movies take far, far longer to make than comics. The line in the film was written first, and then the comic was written to "explain" it (and in an entirely bizarre way, inexplicably turning Mudd into a female Bajoran, which strikes me as entirely missing the point of the movie line).
 
I think the reference to "The Mudd Incident" in the film was just a nod to the character. Then the comics decided to fill in the blanks.

ETA: And Christopher beat me to the punch. "Missed it by that much."
 
She could be Zahra, a red shirt security (IDW comic), but TrekCore said "difficult to recognize with all the make-up" and that "her costume dramatically changed her look".
So it will be difficult to be a Andorian or another character with human face.

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99% sure she's the comic version of this lady we saw in stid

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I don't see Boutella playing her but I'd love for her to appear in the next movie. In the comics she's a badass security officer, love her!

there is a possible issue though:

And how many looks has Zahra had in the comics by this point? She was supposed to be based on the character from "Operation -- Annihilate!," but then she was carelessly drawn as a blonde, and now it looks like she's been identified with some nameless bridge extra with white hair? It seems like there's an ongoing lack of communication between writer and artists.

original Zahra from tos was a woman of color and she was one in the first comics from the reboot ongoing series too
It would be whitewashing if this other Zahra is the same character, it would be super lame if it's two characters with the same name. Solution? make them sisters or married.



^I really doubt the filmmakers would draw anything from the comics.

And then on the other hand they make really strange extraneous references to it like in STID "The Mudd Incident."


and I might argue that Spock PTSD that is only hinted in the last movie was more developed in the comics.
 
and I might argue that Spock PTSD that is only hinted in the last movie was more developed in the comics.

It certainly was, but that's still a case of the movie script being written first and the comics then picking up on elements from it.
 
^I really doubt the filmmakers would draw anything from the comics.

And then on the other hand they make really strange extraneous references to it like in STID "The Mudd Incident."

Other way around. Movies take far, far longer to make than comics. The line in the film was written first, and then the comic was written to "explain" it (and in an entirely bizarre way, inexplicably turning Mudd into a female Bajoran, which strikes me as entirely missing the point of the movie line).

I agree that it took a weird turn, but the Bajoran female is implied to be Harry Mudd's daughter, if I remember it correctly.

However, thinking about it now, having "The Mudd Incident" reference one of Harry Mudd's ongoing financial endeavors now strikes me as more appropriate and amusing.
 
another way to consider it is that the comics, since were approved by Orci, might have implemented and expanded ideas suggested by him regardless if they'd be in the movies or were in the script. Though, Spock's PTSD seems to be the other way around as if in the actual movie it's treated as an afterthought. Uhura's pov too is way more layered if you read the comics.

now who knows how much the comic writer will be able to put seeds and hints about trek3 since the script wasn't written by Orci. Unless Johnson is in talks with Pegg or the other writer too, he's left more in the dark though Orci is still listed as a collaborator and he surely read and had to approve the current script so he can still help Johnson not deviate too much from the movie.
The current comics while not canon canon still have, from what I understood, the goal to be as consistent as they can be with the movies. You don't need to read them to understand the movies but they are nice as an 'extra' between the movies (if you're realistic enough to understand that you can't expect too much from the comic format). It's also a great opportunity for artists as there are many collaborating and adding their own style. It's fun.
 
another way to consider it is that the comics, since were approved by Orci, might have implemented and expanded ideas suggested by him regardless if they'd be in the movies or were in the script.

Even so, the movie script would still come first. Generally there's a year or two between the completion of a script and the release of a film, versus mere months for comics.


Though, Spock's PTSD seems to be the other way around as if in the actual movie it's treated as an afterthought. Uhura's pov too is way more layered if you read the comics.

That doesn't mean the ideas originated in the comics. It means they originated in the movie script as minor details, and the comics picked up on them and fleshed them out more fully. It's the same thing I and other novelists do where we pick up on minor details from episodes and flesh them out more extensively.


now who knows how much the comic writer will be able to put seeds and hints about trek3 since the script wasn't written by Orci.

I think Orci is still a producer on the film. So he'd still be in the loop.


The current comics while not canon canon still have, from what I understood, the goal to be as consistent as they can be with the movies.

Which is the goal of all tie-ins, so there's nothing new there. But the movies are under no obligation to be consistent with the comics. The first four or five issues of the Star Trek Ongoing comic depicted multiple crew fatalities, and then STID came along and said that nobody had died under Kirk's command. As with any other tie-ins, the comics try their best to be consistent -- and they have the added advantage of being in the loop about the script to the upcoming movie -- but they could still be contradicted by something from the movies at any moment.
 
I really dig these videos. Is Elvis joining the cast? Are we going to have a transporter split and he plays an alien dog? Is that Elvis' mask?!? ;)
 
Neat video. Nice promotion. I'm old and cynical, but when I watch something like that, I think I'd be crushed if I found out the cast really doesn't enjoy each other's company.
 
It's too much like Star Wars aliens. Justin Lin only cares about Star Wars! :mad:

There's still no script or budget! How can there be a movie?!?!?

:shrug:

When the $$TRUTH$$ is revealed about Abrams drafting all of Into Darkness' profit into the budget for The Force Awakens and Bad Robot is punished for being a Bad Robot, we're all going to feel really silly.

Y'know, I swear, no matter the quality of Beyond, I'm always going to remember its pre-release phase for the unstoppable "truther" meme surrounding its production. :lol:
 
A large group on an Internet forum is an extremely tiny group of the population at large. Forum posters are very, very far from being a statistically representative sample, both because they're a really, really tiny sample and because the sample is biased in favor of more vocal and involved fans. As a rule, people who are dissatisfied with a thing are more motivated to speak up than those who are satisfied, so the group that writes letters or posts online or whatever is always going to be more biased toward the negative.


You've also explained the gigantic turnover rate in Customer Service jobs. Why don't the happy people ever call?
 
Cute video! Anton holding that dog reminds me the sedated dog scene from the movie "There's Something About Mary" :lol:
 
Y'know, I swear, no matter the quality of Beyond, I'm always going to remember its pre-release phase for the unstoppable "truther" meme surrounding its production. :lol:

Oh, I don't think it's stopping anytime soon.

I really want to jokingly start a petition to end their pettiness. I bet I'd get more signatures more quickly than they have. :cool:
 
Y'know, I swear, no matter the quality of Beyond, I'm always going to remember its pre-release phase for the unstoppable "truther" meme surrounding its production. :lol:

Oh, I don't think it's stopping anytime soon.

I really want to jokingly start a petition to end their pettiness. I bet I'd get more signatures more quickly than they have. :cool:

I signed the petition, and left a comment...

Because I'm obviously a freaking loon with no life. I'm actively protesting a Hollywood film when we are a country facing real problems such as hunger, homelessness and illiteracy. I think I'm being true to "Roddenberry's Vision" by wasting my time on such an inconsequential matter. I feel it is a far better use of my time than helping those less fortunate in my community.

Gene Roddenberry would be proud!
 
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