I distinctly said picard is certainly not.
Where is the autism talk at?
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I distinctly said picard is certainly not.
Someone mentioned Picard. But fair enough. Still not seeing it with Worf. If anyone in the shows fit that definition, it would probably be Geordi La Forge.
Not sure exactly where it came from, but I remember it specifically it may be about spock, it might of however been the casting director Joseph "Joe" D'Agosta, when I have time I'll look into to it I'm genuinely quite curious.
Geordi would not really fit any of the qualities as far as I can tell.
He's a agreeable, no discernible passion, only of the rarest of occasion has any difficulties with anything.
But if you think he's a possibility and worf is not I think you might need to better understand things.
Worf is obsessive, anti social, not just shy but down right rude, aggressive, no respect for social standings at times, he also seemingly never shows any ability to understand anyone as an actual dynamic person.
Seriously how would worf describe the personalities of his co-workers?
What show are you watching?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs
this one.
Keeping in mind his poor social understanding is kept in check by his strict adherence to protocol and rules.
So when he's on duty, he's cautious about the lives of his shipmates? You got me. Worf is obviously highly autistic.
I still don't know what TV show you were watching? He seemed to understand human socializing fine. He even played poker with his shipmates on a regular basis, got involved in betting pools, dated part-human women.
I really think you're reaching here.
It's not about being completely unable to understand people on an intellectual level it's about the inability to have natural instincts socially(as they are neurologically missing).
Worf is capable of behaving socially in the sense that he can do what is expected of him when the rules are obvious.
However when it's time to be spontaneous, make a joke, laugh, etc he's lacking.
But he actually isn't.
He laughs when Guinan tells him that there are women on the Enterprise that would find him tame.
"Captain, I must protest! I am not a merry man." ("Qpid")
Worf had his share of good one-liners at appropriate moments.
Worf (while I'm incredibly sick of the character) was probably the most human and well-realized character from the modern shows.
D'Acosta didn't cast Nimoy. He came on board with WNMHGB, the second pilot.. Nimoy was cast as Spock in the first pilot. He didn't have many of his traditional characteristics in "the Cage". Those were part of the Number One character instead.
Lol I"ve had multiple relationships not getting your point.
Look at how those relationships develop.
He's a bulldoser either a girl is down with it or they are not, that's pretty much how most aspie relationships work.
http://www.empowher.com/mental-heal...ship-man-who-has-aspergers-or-autism?page=0,1
His mother of his kid, couldn't stand him because of his obsessions and ultimately dumped his giantic ass.
Diana was an experiment that likely had alot to do with her ability to interact with people and not the other way around.
Dax was the perfect relationship, because of sceens like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmZx4yqguYk
She tolerated his obsessiveness, and liked his emotional bluntness.
Oh and there he goes, totally sabotages his chances.
She moved on because Worf wanted to get married. Heck, I'd want to lock that down too. Doesn't make me autistic.
Do you have any actual proof? Because the show has them growing closer together through Alexander. The episode "Parallels" shows them as married with children in another timeline.
You seem to cherry pick a few things and use it to make a diagnosis of autism while ignoring the bulk of what went on with the character over 11 TV seasons and 4 feature films.
Wanting to lock that down, and jumping obviously way to deep way too fast are completely different things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51CTpvCKMZ8
Cherry picking, maybe you have the wrong idea.
THe first scene does that look like he's acting like a normal social person.
When someone asks you to play a game "what this" etc isn't social behavior.
I can't say with 100 percent proof he's autistic.
However without a doubt he does not display typical socially appropriate behaviour, there little debate in that.
Without a doubt he does not act like a typical klingon.
Without a doubt he is obsessed with certain klingon values when nearly every other klingon we meet has a very much broader behaviour.
You don't know have to know anything about autism nor accept that he is, but to deny these basic traits only raises the question how good are your social skills.
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We're use to seeing characters giving the guy a wide birth however it's as just as much to his poor social skills as anything else.
He's a Klingon raised by humans. That's quite enough to make him stand out as asocial in either a group of humans or klingons.
It would be closer to compare him to hearing child being raised by deaf parents in a predominantly deaf society, then getting introduced to the rest of the world. Would you diagnose that person as autistic because of any unusual behaviors they may exhibit?
It would be closer to compare him to hearing child being raised by deaf parents in a predominantly deaf society, then getting introduced to the rest of the world. Would you diagnose that person as autistic because of any unusual behaviors they may exhibit?
There are probably thousands of characters throughout television history who have been written by dozens or hundreds of writers, each with his own interpretation of those characters, and each interpretation filtered through an actor's interpretation, that could be armchair diagnosed as having some sort of medical condition. It doesn't mean the character definitely has it.
I think this is a very good point. There is no singular creative vision behind the Worf character. He is an amalgamation of dozens of writers over a fifteen year period.
Autism test...
http://psychcentral.com/cgi-bin/autismquiz.cgi
I scored '23'.
Which the Duras sisters even pick up on in Redemption when they see Worf uncomfortable hanging out in the bar with Kurn and his friends (and enemies). Although, later on DS9 Worf seemed to have no problem fitting in with Martok and his crew.
