I remain cautiously optimistic that DS9 will see an HD upgrade. With TVs now moving into Ultra HD and computer screens now in HD, DS9 will be a much more viable commodity for CBS (whether streamed or on physical media) in HD.
Looks like DS9 will not get Blu Ray
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I remain cautiously optimistic that DS9 will see an HD upgrade. With TVs now moving into Ultra HD and computer screens now in HD, DS9 will be a much more viable commodity for CBS (whether streamed or on physical media) in HD.
c. $10 an episode in the 90s. Season 7 of DS9 cost me £180 ($290).
Get 20,000 people to buy the sets at that price ($2k for the series) and I'm sure it would get released
I just don't think various content providers are as interested in these shows as the fans think they are. BBC America has the first two seasons of TNG in HD but haven't progressed beyond that point and Netflix still doesn't have it.
Yes but the reason for those high prices (besides greed of course, but that's capitalism for you) was the high cost of the remaster and CBS trying to profit despite said cost.
As everyone, rightly, sought out discounts or waited for sales, those all important full price purchases didn't happen, and less money was made. There is totally nothing wrong with that, but CBS has overestimated the blind devotion of Trek fans.
It seems to be that having learned from this they are not rushing to do a Blu Ray of the less popular, less valuable shows. It actually makes some sense.
We ill definitely, definitely never see VGR HD, it was less popular even than DS9 and used tons of CGI, a lot of it crappy looking even in SD. I think, given there is not thread like this in the VGR forum fans are realistic about this.
Heck, I'd love to be wrong about DS9 but there is so much stacked against it I think CBS would actually be mad to green light a remaster!
Then if they are released, you won't be getting them. There's no way a full season blu ray box set will be £80.
I believe he was talking about the original DVD release.
On a re-read, quite right. Doh!
Guy who runs Eaglemoss' starship model collection (tweet link is to the first tweet, I edited it all together):
https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson/status/613048897557016576
https://twitter.com/BenCSRobinson/status/613048897557016576
I've seen the costs for DS9 and Voy in HD. Scary. In my personal totally non-official capacity I'd say HD versions of DS9 and Voy won't be funded by a Blu-ray release.
> Ben, do you have an estimate for just DS9, or is you knowing a confidential thing? Just curious.
I was told in passing. It's in the millions. It's not the VFX that stops it but re-editing the original footage which was was originally transferred to video to be cut. You have to find original film elements, digitise and re-cut. lots of work.
> I assumed the re-editing cost/process would be same as TNG HD, but rebuilding digital VFX would be more expensive
A bit of that but TNG and TOS sell much better than the other series.
> Ben, do you have an estimate for just DS9, or is you knowing a confidential thing? Just curious.
I was told in passing. It's in the millions. It's not the VFX that stops it but re-editing the original footage which was was originally transferred to video to be cut. You have to find original film elements, digitise and re-cut. lots of work.
> I assumed the re-editing cost/process would be same as TNG HD, but rebuilding digital VFX would be more expensive
A bit of that but TNG and TOS sell much better than the other series.
Wow what a difference!
I don't see why not. I paid under £40 for the complete new Galactica Bluray box and even less for the complete Fringe Blurays a little while ago. A couple of weeks ago I picked up a complete Stargate Atlantis Bluray box for £46. All brand new, all from major retailers.
The trick is biding your time.
The complete TNG Blu set has already gone below £130 on Amazon, would expect it in a lightning deal for < £100 by Xmas, I wouldn't be surprised if it reaches < £80 in a year or so.
You'd never get that set for £80. Not brand new at least. The TNG Blu-ray set is currently £114.79 on Amazon, and that's the cheapest I've seen it since it released in December. I'd be surprised if it went any lower than that, and I reckon the same would be true if a DS9 set was released.
Yes, and I paid £29.99 for the BSG set on Black Friday, but at the end of the day it's a 4-season set (plus a TV movie) and was easier to release on Blu-Ray due to the way it was filmed. DS9 has 3 more seasons and would need significantly more work to bring the series up to Blu-Ray quality.
To be honest, with all the usual youtube caveats, I'm not seeing much difference there aside from obvious colour correction and a little extra clarity.
The difference is nowhere near as extreme as it was with TNG.
I don't dismiss the difference in clarity. I'm sold on that alone. The difference is pretty dramatic on my large computer screen. I'm sure without the added compression from ripping, transcoding, then exporting this edited video, then YouTube doing its own compression on top of all of that...the difference would be even more remarkable.
Indeed. I was able to pick it up for £80 * last week from Rakuten in fact. I'm eally enjoying watching through them again with more detail apparent. Whilst it used doubtful DS9 would get blu-ray, I probably would pay more than this for it even though I would not have paid any more for TNG than I did.
* might have been a clearance of stock by The Entertainment Store though. Don't see it listed at that price anymore - or any Trek media in that store anymore.
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Right now, a dutch retail website has TNG Bluray for 20 euro's a season. That's a 140 euros for the entire show. That's about 160 dollars, or about 100 British Pounds.
And that's for single seasons, boxsets are usually cheaper, but there's not Dutch packaging for that I'm afraid.
And that's for single seasons, boxsets are usually cheaper, but there's not Dutch packaging for that I'm afraid.
It wouldn't get the sort of attention TNG did, it's not financially viable.
As I don't have the DVD's it would only have to be a cleaned up, uncompressed, skilfully 'tweaked' product to sell it to me. At the right price...
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