Supernatural: Season 10 (Spoilers!)

[Kemaiku]

I know the show does so, probably to save on money, but one of the primary charactaristics of a seraph are their 6 wings folded around themselves, it would have been nice for them to have made a little more effort and shown that variety.

Then again the show is going down some very lazy routes the last few years. It just feels like it's dragging along, like seasons 6-10 could have been condensed down to half the amount of episodes if they'd really tried.

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

I know the show does so, probably to save on money, but one of the primary charactaristics of a seraph are their 6 wings folded around themselves, it would have been nice for them to have made a little more effort and shown that variety.

On Supernatural, since we only ever see the shadows of angel wings, how could they depict "6 wings folded around themselves?" Silhouetted, wouldn't that be confusing to look at?

However, I do agree that it's probably a budgetary decision. Two is cheaper than six, presumably, and a pair of wings is visual short-hand for angels in most people's minds anyway.

 

[tnpir4002]

Then again the show is going down some very lazy routes the last few years. It just feels like it's dragging along, like seasons 6-10 could have been condensed down to half the amount of episodes if they'd really tried.

I think this is why we see less displays of powers from things like the angels than we used to except on special occasions. Like when Cas got his grace back in "Book of the Damned," it didn't really seem to pack quite the same punch as when Anna got her grace back.

That's also why I think we've heard more about the destructive effects of the Mark of Cain and seen less; it's cheaper to tell than it is to show. Personally, the Mark of Cain plotline struck me as being too similar to season 9's angel war plotline--something that people wrung their hands about in their spare time but that only seemed to peak at midseason break time and at the season finale.

As for the condensed seasons, believe me, I'd have loved it if we had more mythology episodes and fewer filler episodes--the Monster of the Week stories were great the first few years, but around season 3 they started introducing bigger mythos and that should've become the bigger focus of the show. Maybe it would be better to have two arcs per season, so that we have fewer filler episodes and more A-story episodes.

Just my two cents of course.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Just saw the two previous episodes. Man! They keep killing off characters that I like - Bobby, Kevin, and now Charlie. R.I.P.

Dean is definitely getting darker by the minute, but that could be because he wanted revenge on the House of Frankenstein. Speaking of which, he easily dispatched of the family members. Why didn't Castiel just use his angel powers to incapacitate Dean? The guy got pretty beaten up.

Things didn't go very well for Sammy either, and he should have seen it coming. Rowena is a deceitful and manipulative witch, and Crowley is too powerful for him to take on.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I have two requests for the finale...please don't suck and kill of Rowena.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I have two requests for the finale...please don't suck and kill of Rowena.

I predict Rowena succeeds in removing the mark, but it doesn't disappear, it'll either appear on herself OR on Crowley (now that is scary).

 

[Snaploud]

I just hope the writers don't use the criticism about killing-off female characters as an excuse to keep Rowena alive.

 

[Thestral]

They've certainly never let it stop them before, why would they now? I mean, they just had a fan-favorite female character pointlessly killed off by probably the lamest and quickest-dispatched villains in the show's run. "House of Frankenstein," please.

This raises a rather sticky point, specifically about Cas. Earlier this season, when he was surviving on borrowed grace, he managed to sneak up behind Demon Dean and trap him, with nothing but his hands. Last night, he tried that again, only this time Dean broke the grip seemingly without effort.

Then, although we've seen that angels are (supposedly) invulnerable to harm, we see Cas get beaten and bloodied, despite the fact that he's supposed to be a full-power seraph again.

What am I missing here?

Consistency in strength levels if it gets in the way of "Dean being an angry badass"? Pfftt....

I'm sure they'll find some way to cheapen Death next week too.

 

[eyeresist]

So I saw this episode. If the preceding season had been good, this would have been a fine episode. But as things are, it's built on a rotten foundation.

I did like the darkness here: The Styne kid was a well-used character, and I actually cared when he died. Sam being sadistic while watching Crowley suffer was tasty. I enjoyed Dean being a bad-ass, though I wish the way he moved was a bit more dynamic. Maybe Jensen is all tired out from being in his 30s?

Why did Crowley leave rather than eviscerating Sam? Because the writers want Sam alive, no other reason.

When the Stynes went to rob and burn the clubhouse, I was all hopeful. Maybe the writers finally realised that having their heroes live in a luxurious demon-proof mansion was bad for drama? But no. The Winchesters will continue to have a safe place to whine. Even as favourite side characters get the shaft for no good reason.

I guess Dean overpowering Cas is explained by the Mark giving Dean demonic power. But still, Cas should act like a powerful angel, not a punching bag.

 

[tnpir4002]

I guess Dean overpowering Cas is explained by the Mark giving Dean demonic power. But still, Cas should act like a powerful angel, not a punching bag.

If you saw the last few minutes of tonight's show, this got stepped up another notch. Early on, yes, we had Crowley verbally acknowledging Cas' still-broken wings, but in the final few minutes we had something that completely broke the story for me:

Rowena, who up until now has been shown to not be nearly so powerful as all that, cast the attack-dog spell on Cas--who, I remind you, is supposedly a full-power seraph again--and it seemed to work! And this was *after* casting another spell that froze his feet (and Crowley's, for that matter) in place.

 

[Snick27]

Yawn of a final. Just like each season final they unleash something bad to only drop the ball the next season. Remember Demon Dean for what 2 or 3 episodes then back to same old filler. Or when the Angels fell all we got were boring angels fighting each other an Sam taken over by an angel. Always the big promise with little payoff. I'm calling it now, Cas won't kill Crowly, Dean an Sam escape an after 2 episodes it be back to filler, then mid season they deal with Crowlys mother an at the final they will pull some weapon out of their ass to trap the darkness.
So wish the writers would surprise me but it's the same formula each year.

Now if Dean would of killed Sam then hey that would be new or if Demon Dean would of lasted half a season. But I know by episode 3 Sam an Dean will be out working on a case and back to the brother drama and your be thinking these new episodes feel like the last 5 seasons an are inter changeable with those prior seasons episodes.

 

[Kelthaz]

Rowena, who up until now has been shown to not be nearly so powerful as all that, cast the attack-dog spell on Cas--who, I remind you, is supposedly a full-power seraph again--and it seemed to work! And this was *after* casting another spell that froze his feet (and Crowley's, for that matter) in place.

She's been studying the codex.

 

[auntiehill]

Dang....I really hope they haven't actually "killed" Death, because that would suck, not to mention make no sense. He's fucking DEATH. I hope he comes back and is really pissed off.

So, once again, a brother refuses to let his brother die and this time, the entire world is well and truly fucked. If Dean truly was the "good person" Sam said he was, he'd have killed Sam.

However, the darkness seems like scary stuff. I'm really interested in finding out what it actually is. I'm hoping that Rowena becomes the big bad so everyone will have to work together to finally kill her annoying ass.

 

[Gryffindorian]

So Dean is finally cured of the Mark of Cain, but they've unleashed the Smoke Monster! Season finales have become so formulaic on this show, either with Dean or Sammy dying or transforming into something or releasing some kind of evil. Maybe the darkness will be similar to the Leviathans.

 

[Aragorn]

However, the darkness seems like scary stuff. I'm really interested in finding out what it actually is.

Darkness while require a human form that won't kill the Winchesters immediately, but rather throw them against the walls for a while and then tie them up so he can tell them his master plans, giving them enough time to escape and kill Darkness with the Infinity Stone Light Saber of Jesus that they found out about in the second half of the season.

 

[Tzenkethi]

I take it Lucifer drew power from the darkness, used it to corrupt humans and the black smoke at the end was actually demons. Maybe the boys just gave all demons a power boost.

Either way I got vibes of season 4's finale and season 7's Leviathan unleashing in this episode.

 

[QCzar]

Well, that was...special. An entire season of faux-peril and we get as a prize a literal giant puff of smoke. Sums up this season nicely, right? They couldn't even do Death justice. DEATH!

Now imagine for a moment how much more impacting this all would have been if they'd mentioned "the Darkness" from the start. Why didn't they? It's obvious, silly. There was no "the Darkness" until they'd written themselves into a nice, comfy corner.

It looks like I'm going to be downgrading my viewing of this show. As much of a completist as I can sometimes be, this series just no longer engages me. I don't want to end up where I was with series like Voyager, Lost and Heroes (among others), watching out of habit but rarely being entertained. I may tune in to see what this Darkness stuff is all about, but I'm sure, as Aragorn has pointed out, it'll be be something underwhelming or outright stupid.

Supernatural now stands at a paltry 1.9, down from a high of 3.7 during the season 5 run.

Not that anyone cares, but here's my viewership grading scale:

4.0: Rabidly Obsessed - Religiously devours any and all aired episodes, various other media and content related to the series.

3.0-3.9: Committed and Engaged - Looks forward to tuning in every airing and follows all of the story and character developments.

2.0-2.9: Regular Viewing - Tunes in frequently, occasionally missing some, DVR'ing others but still following the plot and characters.

1.0-1.9: Casual Viewing - Infrequently tunes in, missing many episodes, DVR'ing some and only generally following the narrative. Mostly informed on development by perusing other media.

0.1-0.9: Passive Interest - Rarely tunes in unless some major event is happening (premiere, finale, series ending, big change or big guest star) and only loosely follows development by perusing other media.​

 

[tnpir4002]

My main problem is that they can't quite seem to keep their own mythology straight. We've now seen God in the persona of Chuck this year, so they haven't forgotten about him. We saw Gabriel last season, and we know from producers' comments that he's actually still alive. We know they haven't forgotten about angels losing some of their powers when Metatron cast his spell, since Cas' wings are shown as broken (and Crowley even refers to them as such in as many words in the finale).

Yet, despite the perfect setup at midseason with the references to misbehaving children being straightened out by their fathers, where was God? We know at least one archangel is still up and kicking (meaning not trapped in the cage), why have we not seen him since "Meta Fiction"? It's now been two full seasons since "Sacrifice," why haven't they reopened Heaven's gates and found a solution for the angels' broken wings? It's maddening to see an angel having to summon a demon for help because the latter can still zap around, like we did last night--when early in season 6, Cas went to grab ingredients for a spell in the blink of an eye.

And, for the love of all that's holy, can we get some consistency about Cas and his powers? Seasons 6-8, as a seraph there's no way he'd ever have gotten bloodied like he did last week, and even before that bullets were shown to have no effect on him. Now that he's supposedly a full-power seraph again, he's getting the crap kicked out of him in circumstances where it simply makes no sense.)

And mentioning Lucifer's cage raises another issue. What about Adam, and Michael for that matter? Are they simply condemned to spend the rest of eternity (or the rest of the show's run, whichever comes first) stuck down there?

Those are the mythology plots I want to see them tackle. Yes, the show is primarily about Sam and Dean, but

 

[Kemaiku]

Well that certainly came out of nowhere.

Death deserved more than that, unless his avatar can be killed but he as an eternal concept can just make another, Cas has been fully physically dissociated and come back.

And now the First Evil from Buffy gets a make over by ripping all the demons out of hell and glueing them to itself in some LOST envy display of 'argh! look at me!' with no specific actual demonstation of power. Swell.

 

[Mr Light]

Interesting finale even though it's just recycling the same stories over and over. I am surprised Dean killed Death though; that'd be cute if nobody could die next year!

Hopefully the Darkness will mean the return of God from his retirement, since they said only God and his Archangels could defeat it. That'd be a good way to end the series.