An old opinion but not a story, certainly not one based on fact.
Pegg updates on script
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An old opinion but not a story, certainly not one based on fact.
Righfully so. GotG felt like a big-budget Farscape ripoff, sans the clever (adult) humour. Chris Pratt is OK, but he's no Ben Browder.
So, first they aim to put more "wars" in "trek", and when that worked (because the numbers prove that it definitely fucking DID), they decide it didn't work well enough, because, HEY, only one in ten people who payed money to see the Avengers went to see STID.
Honestly, who here believes that ST XIII has real potential to become a billion dollar movie?
Sorry to go off topic, but I had a feeling something was fishy about "her." I just read the whole Reddit scoop and it all makes sense now.
It reminds me of the Seinfeld episode called "The Susie" where "Susie" was completely made up to begin with and "dies" and a funeral is even held for her. Peterman is so emotional.
I will have to look that Reddit up...
Indeed. In the end though, "smart" is a very subjective term, and it seems to be used most often to denigrate a particular form or example of entertainment that a person simply doesn't like.
Doesn't really matter as Paramount is the one footing the bill.
No, "smart" is a RELATIVELY subjective term, at best.
But it really does matter, because if the movie doesn't meet their ambitions, Paramount will be the one pulling the plug.
And?
Death is a part of life. I have more than enough Star Trek to keep me entertained for the rest of my life if they never make another movie/episode/comic/novel...
Can two people agree on the same definition for a "smart" film?
I doubt it.
I agree. Even if two or three managed to agree, there would be countless more people who disagreed. It's a subjective term.
Two people? Yea, probably... A crowd, no way
Me too. And I've never read comic or novels. But as much as I genuinely enjoy rewatching TV episodes (and fanfilms - for good or bad), I perhaps naively and optimistically look forward to new visual incarnations.
I have a bad feeling about this!
If people felt that Abrams first two Star Trek films weren’t “Star Trek-y”enough I have a feeling they are going to hate Justin Lin’s film.
I’m hoping for the best, but to think that Star Trek is going to be directed by the man behind the Fast and Furious films doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence…Quite frankly ST is better than those films. ST is for the thinking man. FF is for dopes who like to see cars crash into each other and “actors” like Vin Diesel and The Rock act like tough guys…It’s bottom of the barrel stuff.
To add to that Star Trek isn’t Guardians of the Galaxy or The Avengers. Those films, while entertaining are comic books. Star Trek at it’s best always aims higher than that.
From what I know about Orci’s script, as a die hard ST fan I think I would much prefer his concept rather than trying to make the next film…”a western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it’s more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent” If that’s the case perhaps those people should go see a western or a thriller or a heist movie and leave Star Trek alone…Every time TPTB try to make ST into something it isn’t it never works.
This is all about greedy accountants trying to make Star Trek into Guardian’s of the Galaxy or The Fast and the Furious…I don’t think its going to work. Orci’s concept would be much better.
If people felt that Abrams first two Star Trek films weren’t “Star Trek-y”enough I have a feeling they are going to hate Justin Lin’s film.
I’m hoping for the best, but to think that Star Trek is going to be directed by the man behind the Fast and Furious films doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence…Quite frankly ST is better than those films. ST is for the thinking man. FF is for dopes who like to see cars crash into each other and “actors” like Vin Diesel and The Rock act like tough guys…It’s bottom of the barrel stuff.
To add to that Star Trek isn’t Guardians of the Galaxy or The Avengers. Those films, while entertaining are comic books. Star Trek at it’s best always aims higher than that.
From what I know about Orci’s script, as a die hard ST fan I think I would much prefer his concept rather than trying to make the next film…”a western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it’s more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent” If that’s the case perhaps those people should go see a western or a thriller or a heist movie and leave Star Trek alone…Every time TPTB try to make ST into something it isn’t it never works.
This is all about greedy accountants trying to make Star Trek into Guardian’s of the Galaxy or The Fast and the Furious…I don’t think its going to work. Orci’s concept would be much better.
Wasn't a problem for me.
I like the F&F films quite a bit, and most Star Trek films are not better. As for being a "dope"... I'll have to await some evidence that you're brighter than I am.
I expect that Lin and Pegg are going to make an awesome film. Having directed several of the F&F films is not a deficiency on Lin's part but an asset.
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You can't really believe this?
This. Several films with ensemble casts that are technically heavy would seem to make Lin the perfect person for Star Trek.
An example of applying another genre to Trek is Star Trek VI. It's basically a Columbo whodunit in outerspace with some Glasnost symbolism and obligatory action bolted on here and there.
So it's hard to know what Pegg means when he says he doesn't want it "Star Trek-y" since there are examples like the above where Trek has gone off in more unusual directions.
Really, his statement is an inkblot. People will interpret it the way they want. Having Justin Lin on board would lend one to believe that the film will indeed be the very sort of Pew Pew that Pegg says he wants to get away from. So what we will wind up with is anyone's guess.
So it's hard to know what Pegg means when he says he doesn't want it "Star Trek-y" since there are examples like the above where Trek has gone off in more unusual directions.
Really, his statement is an inkblot. People will interpret it the way they want. Having Justin Lin on board would lend one to believe that the film will indeed be the very sort of Pew Pew that Pegg says he wants to get away from. So what we will wind up with is anyone's guess.
And what about Voyage Home? It's the least Star Trekky (what ever that meant) of all 12 existing films, IMO.
And it's still a fantastic adventure movie. My favorite of the bunch.
I'll always crave fresh Trek.
You are right - the same people who hated the first two nuTrek films will also hate the third, no matter who was directing.
I like to think of myself as a rather smart, sophisticated individual, and I loved the FF films. They were highly entertaining, and occasionally quite poignant. Not every film has to be Shakespeare.
No. Star Trek aims to be entertaining and profitable, and slides in a message or two to give it a shiny profile of awesome. The franchise's "aim" is not to be a groundbreaking, progressive, message - delivering revolutionary show. It's aim is to make money, and if it manages to do nice things along the way, so be it.
If we are at the point where some fans are now clamoring for Orci's script - the same Orci they hated a few months back, the the crazy has really hit the fan.
Indeed. So am happy to wait and see.
Personally, ST6 is one of my least favourite original cast films (bar one or two good scenes), though Meyer obviously intended well.
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