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Star Trek: Renegades

I'm not doubting sincerity, just realism.
I think that plays into it, though. Just stump for the production, and if CBS does make an offer, crap yourself in surprise and let everyone else know (about the offer, not the crapping in surprise)! Don't lead with it as if it's a sure bet, when history has shown otherwise.
 
In all fairness to Renegades, considering the cast and production team they've put together, they have as good or better chance as anyone else of getting their film seen by CBS.

I don't think any fan film has a snowball's chance of getting picked up, but if they manage to get it screened for the brass that's one hell of an accomplishment.
 
In all fairness to Renegades, considering the cast and production team they've put together, they have as good or better chance as anyone else of getting their film seen by CBS.

I don't think any fan film has a snowball's chance of getting picked up, but if they manage to get it screened for the brass that's one hell of an accomplishment.
I'm not sure it would make a difference. Tim Russ? Star Trek: Voyager, back in the mid 1990s to early 2000s. Walter Koenig? The original Star Trek series in the 1960s, and the Star Trek movies ending in 1994. Richard Herd? A few bit parts, and an episode of Rizzoli & Isles back in 2013. Robert Picardo? Star Trek: Voyager, a handful of movies, and a few episodes on various sci-fi shows.

As much as I love these people, there's nothing there to spark CBS' interest.
 
In all fairness to Renegades, considering the cast and production team they've put together, they have as good or better chance as anyone else of getting their film seen by CBS.

I don't think any fan film has a snowball's chance of getting picked up, but if they manage to get it screened for the brass that's one hell of an accomplishment.
I'm not sure it would make a difference. Tim Russ? Star Trek: Voyager, back in the mid 1990s to early 2000s. Walter Koenig? The original Star Trek series in the 1960s, and the Star Trek movies ending in 1994. Richard Herd? A few bit parts, and an episode of Rizzoli & Isles back in 2013. Robert Picardo? Star Trek: Voyager, a handful of movies, and a few episodes on various sci-fi shows.

As much as I love these people, there's nothing there to spark CBS' interest.

That's pretty much what I said, but more cynical. :P
 
In all fairness to Renegades, considering the cast and production team they've put together, they have as good or better chance as anyone else of getting their film seen by CBS.

I don't think any fan film has a snowball's chance of getting picked up, but if they manage to get it screened for the brass that's one hell of an accomplishment.
I'm not sure it would make a difference. Tim Russ? Star Trek: Voyager, back in the mid 1990s to early 2000s. Walter Koenig? The original Star Trek series in the 1960s, and the Star Trek movies ending in 1994. Richard Herd? A few bit parts, and an episode of Rizzoli & Isles back in 2013. Robert Picardo? Star Trek: Voyager, a handful of movies, and a few episodes on various sci-fi shows.

As much as I love these people, there's nothing there to spark CBS' interest.

That's pretty much what I said, but more cynical. :P
Yeah, but I was making the case seem more desolate. :p
 
Walter Koenig? The original Star Trek series in the 1960s, and the Star Trek movies ending in 1994.

Duuuuude.

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That's like talking about Shatner and forgetting Denny Crane. :p
 
No one saw that either.

Oh, I know. I was among the blind. ;) B5 was doing the space wars thing better by then anyway. (Sorry Niners, I love Sisko too.)

You'll like this one:

"There were 12 people at the last supper. Half a dozen at Kitty Hawk. Archimedes was on his own in the bath." - Tony Wilson
 
Every week on TOS they discovered awesome shut that they forgot a week later. That's not a flaw in a fan film; that's Star Trek.

That's most of television before 24.

With a rare exception being, ironically, Deep Space Nine.

Neither 24 nor Deep Space Nine were on the cutting edge of serialized storytelling when they premiered (although the ticking clock, real time gimmick of the former was certainly unconventional). Hill Street Blues, St. Elsewhere, L.A. Law, and several others were all there first.

The trailer looks flashy, I'll grant you that, but it seems pretty empty to me. I'll never understand why most fan films try so hard to show off big set pieces rather than develop any interesting characters. Why not make "Duet" or "The Naked Time?"
 
^ Agreed. Interpersonal drama means more to me than pewpew VFX and set pieces.
 
Why not make "Duet" or "The Naked Time?"

Because the "pewpew" impresses people that you've actually been doing something with their money, probably.

If they'd made "Duet" -- a worthy aspiration, I would add -- dollars to doughnuts Dennis (or others similarly) would be in here saying "No one saw that." ;)
 
Considering that the most wildly successful of these crowd funded fan films (Axanar) raised funds from less than 9,000 people, the fact that "no one saw that" hardly seems relevant. These things are by their very definition niche.

Regarding "pew pew" being an easier way of impressing backers, that's probably true. With a significant chunk of the rhetoric surrounding fan films being about presenting a counterpoint to the action-adventure movies produced by Bad Robot, though, It sort of surprises me that no one has raised money for a genuine "two-hander."

All I know is if I had $300,000 and change along with actors like Walter Koenig and Gary Graham, I would be more interested in what the two could do in a room together than stretching that money paper thin trying to tell an epic story that would need ten times the budget to begin to do it justice.
 
C\All I know is if I had $300,000 and change along with actors like Walter Koenig and Gary Graham, I would be more interested in what the two could do in a room together than stretching that money paper thin trying to tell an epic story that would need ten times the budget to begin to do it justice.

I completely hear you, and I completely agree.
 
I know it probably sounds silly, and wouldn't at all fly, but I've always wanted to see a Star Trek version of 12 Angry Men.
 
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