X-Men: Apocalypse announced for May 2016
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I hear he could possibly be a young Iceman.
But by the original timeline, Iceman wouldn't have been born yet in the '80s time period of the movie, and Angel might not have either, or would at least be extremely young. Could altering the timeline have caused them to be born sooner? Not sure how that would work. I mean, Abramsverse Chekov is apparently 4 years older than Chekov Prime, but it's easy enough to assume he's just a sort of cross-timeline older brother, a genetically different child born to the same parents. But in this case, we're talking about mutants, individuals with unique genetic variations producing superpowers. And we know that siblings in the same family, like Scott and Alex Summers, Wanda and Pietro Maximoff, or the various Guthries, usually have different mutant powers from one another. So if the same parents conceived a child years earlier, with a different pair of gametes combining, it's unlikely the child would have the same mutant ability.
Yeah I agree he looks like he could be more Warren Worthington III than Bobby Drake, but I'm just basing it off what I've heard from various movie podcasts. It's just a rumor.
As far as the logistical aspects of how either of those characters would even exist in that timeline at that point. I just chalk it up to it being just a movie. An X-Men movie no less. Not like it's the first time they've taken certain liberties to fulfill their needs. (IE Havok being older than Cyclops (still yet to be confirmed if they're even related in this universe) Wanda Maximoff is still a little girl in Days of Future Past (if that was even her) as opposed to Pietro's twin. There's probably a bunch more that I'm missing.
As far as the logistical aspects of how either of those characters would even exist in that timeline at that point. I just chalk it up to it being just a movie. An X-Men movie no less. Not like it's the first time they've taken certain liberties to fulfill their needs. (IE Havok being older than Cyclops (still yet to be confirmed if they're even related in this universe) Wanda Maximoff is still a little girl in Days of Future Past (if that was even her) as opposed to Pietro's twin. There's probably a bunch more that I'm missing.
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Looks like we're back to the old game of 'Will Singer ignore The Last Stand?' then.
Well, yeah, it goes without saying that the movies have diverged from what the comics have done. They've been doing that since the first movie, where Iceman was a generation younger than Cyclops and Jean. Adaptations are supposed to be different from the source -- the whole point is that it's a new reality where you get to start over and reinvent things.
I'm only questioning how this fits into the continuity established within the movies's own universe. This version of Iceman, the one who was played by Shawn Ashmore and who made ice sculptures to flirt with Rogue in the first movie, was too young to have been around in the '80s.
No, Days of Future Past made it clear that every movie in the franchise, even The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine, was still counted as part of the original history, even though that history was rewritten by the time travel. So that question's being resolved. The continuity has been reset, but nothing has been simply ignored. If anything, DOFP made the previous films feel like more of a unified whole than they had before, even as it rendered most of their continuity irrelevant.
While the answer probably should be no, I think I read somewhere the producers are taking the position of yes. Essentially, DOFP let them reboot things to do things differently going forward.
What annoys me is there being Sabretooth in X1 and an arguably separate Sabretooth in Origins. And a young Toad in X1 and young Toad in Days of Future Past. Who thought those were good ideas?
Same Sabretooth for me, and the Toad in X1 was played by Ray Park who was pushing 30 - not that young !
I think it's meant to be the same pair of gametes combining, but the event taking place at a different time. This could apply to a lot of stuff post DOFP.
I think we have to accept that with the DOFP reset, all continuity issues are resolved. Even if they aren't. We're lucky they cleared up as much as they did.
Now if the new continuity doesn't stay true to itself, then we can bitch...
I think they'll just say that Alex is Scott's father in this universe instead of his older brother. As for Toad, it's easier to think he was really young draftee in DOFP (about 20) which would make him pushing 50 in the first X-Men movie (but well preserved).
And Victor is never once called "Sabretooth" in the Origins movie, so we can assume that he and Tyler Mane's character are two different guys.
And Victor is never once called "Sabretooth" in the Origins movie, so we can assume that he and Tyler Mane's character are two different guys.
Welp, so much for ever getting Corsair and the Starjammers in a movie, if that's the case. :P
With the "realism" of the X-Men movies so far, I wouldn't really want them making an appearance.
Maybe they could show up in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, though!
Given his connection to Scott and Alex, I have a feeling Corsair and the Starjammers would probably be part of the X-Men franchise and thus off limits to Marvel Studios' movies.
Actually, I agree with RoJoHen. It'd be good to see it done right. It got messed up before because the studio wanted to shoehorn the Whedon "mutant cure" storyline into the film, so Phoenix got sidelined.