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Arrow - Season 3

[And Ra's pronounces his own name as "raysh" here per various DCAU entries et. al., where everyone else sticks to the more Nolanesque "rahs" except for the DJ guy last week. Methinks some actors are researching outside the script's pronunciation guide]

The Nolan's movie pronunciation is correct and closer to the actual Arab pronunciation. BTAS and O'Neil seemed to have used the Hebrew pronunciation of the word, I guess pre-Internet it was probably harder to find an Arabist.
 
If Ray is going to shrink by accident rather than design, then I'm really not going out on a limb here, but maybe like how speaking backwards is spellcasting, then maybe speaking in acronyms is also spell casting? F.I.R.E.S.T.O.R.M. made a burning man and A.T.O.M. made a skrinking man, and hell, S.T.A.R. Labs made a man that can run at the speed of light (or at leat will approach light speed to break the time barrier somewhere down the line.).
 
In Arabic it's pronounced rahs...

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Denny O'Neil knew the Hebrew version, which is where he got his idea for the pronunciation. Although I've heard it depends on the dialect of Arabic and some do say Reysh.
 
Sarah Lance, Atom, and Captain Cold are getting their own spin off show. Guess she ain't so dead after all.
 
Maybe Malcolm had Thea kill a double that could stand up to the scrutiny of an autopsy?

Hell, he could have Hypnotized/drugged everyone into believing that Sarah died when she hadn't?
 
Not sure what to make of the spin-off, but I posted a theory I have over in the thread for it.

I loved this episode.
That was a hell of a twist at the end, but I know there have been a few comic stories with Ra's looking for an heir, so it's not without precedent. I believe Bane and Batman have both been candidates, and since Arrow is very Batmanesque that direction does make sense.
We found out why the Yamasiro's son wasn't with them, which was something I was curious about before.
I was shocked when Thea told Laurel she killed Sara, I didn't expect anyone to just come out and tell her like that. I was glad that she actually blamed Malcolm rather than Thea.
I was glad Ollie actually did bring Diggle with him this time.
While I can definitely understand people wanting Malcolm to be left in Nanda Parbat to die, I think Ollie does have a point about Thea, and I can understand why he went to rescue him. It looked like Thea was already starting to regret what she did by the end of the episode.
I loved Ray in the suit, although it is still a little weird they're turning Atom into Iron Man rather than giving him his shrinking powers from the comics.
Really curious to see what's going to happen with Nyssa and Thea. I really don't see Thea standing much of a chance one on one against the Demon's daughter. Hell, I question what the outcome of a three on one fight between Nyssa, and Thea, Laurel and Roy would be.
This really felt like it could have been a season finale, so I am very curious where the rest of the season is going to go.
 
I was shocked when Thea told Laurel she killed Sara, I didn't expect anyone to just come out and tell her like that. I was glad that she actually blamed Malcolm rather than Thea.

I think it's pretty refreshing that Thea will have none of this "We have to keep this secret" obsession that everyone else has on this show, and is just going around telling everybody everything. And you know what? It kinda works! The secrets the others kept mostly ended up doing more harm than good. It's better to get things out in the open and actually deal with them rather than trying to hide from them and letting them fester.

And it's in keeping with her personality. She's always been big on honesty and hated being lied to, so she's just being true to herself.


I loved Ray in the suit, although it is still a little weird they're turning Atom into Iron Man rather than giving him his shrinking powers from the comics.

On the other hand, in that episode where Ray took Felicity to dinner to convince that guy to grant him mining rights, it turned out that what was being mined was a deposit of dwarf star alloy. So I think he will shrink eventually. You don't need dwarf star alloy to be Iron Man. But this is Arrow, so they have to ease into the kookier stuff. Heck, Ray and Felicity will be showing up on The Flash soon, so that might be where he gets his full Atom powers.
 
Yeah, I know that is the Flash theory going around, and it would make sense. I guess I was just expecting him to shrink as soon as he first activated the suit.
And it's definitely starting to look like that is a Lazarus Pool Ra's has been soaking in. We got the 1854 story this week, and during the mid-season break, I think it was Stephen Amell who said we had already seen a Lazarus Pool.
Oh, and I forgot to mention before how much I loved Thea and Roy bonding over both having killed people while under the effects of mind altering drugs. I'm starting to wonder if they are heading toward getting them back together now that Thea knows everything. That's definitely the impression I've gotten from the last couple episodes.
 
On the other hand, in that episode where Ray took Felicity to dinner to convince that guy to grant him mining rights, it turned out that what was being mined was a deposit of dwarf star alloy. So I think he will shrink eventually. You don't need dwarf star alloy to be Iron Man. But this is Arrow, so they have to ease into the kookier stuff. Heck, Ray and Felicity will be showing up on The Flash soon, so that might be where he gets his full Atom powers.

How do you mine for dwarf star alloy? That actually sounded like a Doctor Who reference, His suit being made of dwarf star alloy though shouldn't mae him shrink or fly either for that matter.
 
On the other hand, in that episode where Ray took Felicity to dinner to convince that guy to grant him mining rights, it turned out that what was being mined was a deposit of dwarf star alloy. So I think he will shrink eventually. You don't need dwarf star alloy to be Iron Man. But this is Arrow, so they have to ease into the kookier stuff. Heck, Ray and Felicity will be showing up on The Flash soon, so that might be where he gets his full Atom powers.

How do you mine for dwarf star alloy? That actually sounded like a Doctor Who reference, His suit being made of dwarf star alloy though shouldn't mae him shrink or fly either for that matter.

yeah the slavers ship in Warriors Gate was contrusted out of dwarf star alloy.

looking at the wiki entry for the Atom under Ray Palmer it mentions the use of "white dwarf star matter" in his first appearance back in 1961

perhaps the writers felt that "alloy" flowed better from an audience perspective than "matter".
 
On the other hand, in that episode where Ray took Felicity to dinner to convince that guy to grant him mining rights, it turned out that what was being mined was a deposit of dwarf star alloy. So I think he will shrink eventually. You don't need dwarf star alloy to be Iron Man. But this is Arrow, so they have to ease into the kookier stuff. Heck, Ray and Felicity will be showing up on The Flash soon, so that might be where he gets his full Atom powers.

How do you mine for dwarf star alloy? That actually sounded like a Doctor Who reference, His suit being made of dwarf star alloy though shouldn't mae him shrink or fly either for that matter.
The same way you come back to life from a pool of water, or get super speed powers from lightning.
 
On the other hand, in that episode where Ray took Felicity to dinner to convince that guy to grant him mining rights, it turned out that what was being mined was a deposit of dwarf star alloy. So I think he will shrink eventually. You don't need dwarf star alloy to be Iron Man. But this is Arrow, so they have to ease into the kookier stuff. Heck, Ray and Felicity will be showing up on The Flash soon, so that might be where he gets his full Atom powers.

How do you mine for dwarf star alloy? That actually sounded like a Doctor Who reference, His suit being made of dwarf star alloy though shouldn't mae him shrink or fly either for that matter.
The same way you come back to life from a pool of water, or get super speed powers from lightning.

There's no reason to believe that dwarf star alloy would turn one into a dwarf though.
 
And gamma radiation doesn't turn you into a Hulk, and genetically engineered/radioactive spiders don't give you spider-powers.
 
Now I get it's ddwarf star matter not alloy, you can't mine for an alloy anyway. And in theory it's supposed to shrink things to a sub atomic level. Still I'm looking forward to whenever that happens.
 
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Grumble.

I'm too young for dementia.

VICTORYISMINE!

33 minutes (no ads) into episode s03e09, Ray says that he want's to shrink all of applied sciences into the palm of his hand, then says that Queen Consolidated calls the program O.M.A.C., but that he's renamed it A.T.O.M.

The idea to become a masked avenger might of been his, even the idea to turn the O.M.A.C. technology into an armour might have been his, but he "found" O.M.A.C. when he bought Queen Consolidated, or he bought Queen Consolidated to get his hands on O.M.A.C. legally.

Ray...What are you doing with Queen Consolidated? Why did you buy it?

Because it was for sale.

My life is a little more complicated than I let on.

Suffice it to say, I have gotten very good at keeping secrets, particularly the kind of secrets someone like you keeps.

Someone in pain.

Wasn't easy for me to tell you about Anna.

You told me about Anna, but you didn't tell me the truth about what it is you're doing.

So tell me, or I walk.

I can't tell you.

I have to show you.

The dawn of the computer age, developers thought the only way a machine could process information as fast as a human brain was to build a mainframe the size of Texas.

But one developer realized that the only way to reduce heat and power consumption was to bring the components closer together.

Which meant making them smaller.

But why stop at computers?

What if it could take other things, like, say, all of the military-grade technology in Applied Sciences, and make it smaller, too? So small that it can fit in the palm of my hand.

I can help a lot of people that way.

I don't understand.

This will help.

Whoa.

What is it?

OMAC is a Queen Consolidated designation.

But I'm kind of partial to A.T.O.M.

Advanced Technology Operating Mechanism.


A.T.O.M.

What are you going to use it for?

To protect the people of this city.

And I want you to help me.

[Exhales]

Why does this keep happening to me?

OMAC might still stand for One Man Army Corps, but it probably doesnt.
 
This last episode made no sense. None of what happened made any sense. Chewbacca living on Endor made more sense than this episode.
 
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