Yes, so it leads me to believe speculation was correct and there is more than one Reverse-Flash.
The Flash - Season 1
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Yes, so it leads me to believe speculation was correct and there is more than one Reverse-Flash.
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You didn't like that year where he was braindamaged and super nice to everyone?
I didn't mind Linda and Barry, but I'm not always good at picking up on that kind of stuff.
They've been building up the Firestorm stuff for a while now, so it was nice to get his big episode.
I got a kick out of seeing Joe and Cisco working together, that's not really a pairing I would have expected. The stuff with their investigation was interesting. I think pretty everyone knew Barry was there, but it's still nice to get confirmation.
I wonder if they're going to introduce any speedsters other than Barry and Wells? I know in the Pre-New 52 comics they introduced a whole ton of different speedsters.
They've been building up the Firestorm stuff for a while now, so it was nice to get his big episode.
I got a kick out of seeing Joe and Cisco working together, that's not really a pairing I would have expected. The stuff with their investigation was interesting. I think pretty everyone knew Barry was there, but it's still nice to get confirmation.
I wonder if they're going to introduce any speedsters other than Barry and Wells? I know in the Pre-New 52 comics they introduced a whole ton of different speedsters.
I could see them introducing Wally if the show goes on for a few seasons. They could have him get powers, and give us a sidekick team up with Roy and Wally 
Or, if they really want to go crazy with time travel, Bart Allen would be cool. Its too bad that super powers really only come about in the Arrow/Flash universe because of the accident at STAR Labs, having an elder speedster like Jay Garrick or Max Mercury could be interesting. Maybe have someone like that as a hero from back in the day who had another type of science accident that became a hero but stayed in the shadows, so they weren't really publicly known. I doubt it would happen, but it would be cool. Or, maybe an alternate Dimension? Recreate the Flash of Two Worlds thing, and have Barry meet a Jay Garrick from another world. I could almost see them doing that, we already have time travel and an evil Gorilla.
Or, if they really want to go crazy with time travel, Bart Allen would be cool. Its too bad that super powers really only come about in the Arrow/Flash universe because of the accident at STAR Labs, having an elder speedster like Jay Garrick or Max Mercury could be interesting. Maybe have someone like that as a hero from back in the day who had another type of science accident that became a hero but stayed in the shadows, so they weren't really publicly known. I doubt it would happen, but it would be cool. Or, maybe an alternate Dimension? Recreate the Flash of Two Worlds thing, and have Barry meet a Jay Garrick from another world. I could almost see them doing that, we already have time travel and an evil Gorilla.
I don't see the point in having a Wally in world where Barry himself is so youthful. This version is sort of a composite character of Barry and Wally.
Guess it depends on whether Barry looks old enough to shave at that point. 
Linda shouldn't have to wax and shave if he doesn't.
Guess it depends on whether Barry looks old enough to shave at that point.
Well, Wally isn't his kid. He doesn't need to be old enough to be Wally's dad. While I know that the actors age doesn't necessarily equal the characters age, Barry probably has to be around Grant Gustin's age (25) at minimum to be a forensic scientist, and even that seems young. By Flash's possible 4-5 season, the actor would be around 28-29, so assuming we go with Barry being the same age he could easily meet a Wally who'd be about 18-19 (with an actor probably a bit older, but that's normal). A ten year or so age gap seems ok, especially since I don't think Roy/Ollie have that much of a gap between each other, either the actors or characters..
They might have to change Wally from Iris's nephew to a cousin or something as Joe doesn't come off as old enough to have a teenaged grandson (Jesse L. Martin is 46).
Unless Joe gets dragged back in time, fathers a sibling to Iris, who fathers Wally despite being part alien genocidal robot.
But then, if Nora does not die (FLASHPOINT!) and the Sky doesn't fall, that would mean that Joe did not raise Barry, so he would have had time to date with only half the children to be responsible for, and maybe get married.
The Universe wiggled in Eureka after events were jostled in 1947, and the autistic kid, Kevin, who had been autistic for the first 4 seasons was suddenly not autistic, and more so he had been a Jimmy Olsen character the whole time hanging out with the sheriff throughout the series that was very different from our dvds.
Um.
On paper (squint) Iris and Barry are brother and sister, since Joe was his father (legal guardian), so if they get married, Barry's children are Iris' nephews and nieces, and vice versus.
But then, if Nora does not die (FLASHPOINT!) and the Sky doesn't fall, that would mean that Joe did not raise Barry, so he would have had time to date with only half the children to be responsible for, and maybe get married.
The Universe wiggled in Eureka after events were jostled in 1947, and the autistic kid, Kevin, who had been autistic for the first 4 seasons was suddenly not autistic, and more so he had been a Jimmy Olsen character the whole time hanging out with the sheriff throughout the series that was very different from our dvds.
Um.
On paper (squint) Iris and Barry are brother and sister, since Joe was his father (legal guardian), so if they get married, Barry's children are Iris' nephews and nieces, and vice versus.
Especially since we haven't heard anything about Joe having any other kids. But, like you suggested, saying Wally is Iris's younger cousin would be a very easy solution.
This show nails so many cool moments its pretty awesome. Grodd at the end was great, the Pittsburgh reference for Ronnie, the Wells reveal, the special weapons to slow down Barry, Barry realizing he fails in the past and then can use that knowledge to help him win next time. With the exception of Barry revealing himself to Mrs. Stein I liked it all.
Didn't Mrs. Stein already know about Barry's super speed? I thought it had been revealed to her when it was necessary to convince her of what happened to her husband/Ronnie.
I liked the Firestorm matrix and how it looked just like his logo in the comics. Why is it that Professor Stein seemed to have forgotten that Wells drugged him and allowed Eiling to take him to the base? If Eiling is some kind of evil general, how the hell does he get away with it? I suppose he's been dealt with by Wells, or Grodd.
I liked the Firestorm matrix and how it looked just like his logo in the comics. Why is it that Professor Stein seemed to have forgotten that Wells drugged him and allowed Eiling to take him to the base? If Eiling is some kind of evil general, how the hell does he get away with it? I suppose he's been dealt with by Wells, or Grodd.
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Easy enough. Stein would find it very easy to believe his ability to "hold his liquor" has been compromised by his recent experiences, from which he is still recovering, and simply accept the same story Wells clearly told everyone else about how the big, bad general came and grabbed Stein and Wells could do nothing to stop him.
Works for me.
That was a very impressive teaser and I too like how the placement of the splitter makes it look Firestorm's costume. I doubt that Barry can change time since I still think he's needed to save his younger self. I still wonder about Wells' movations, but he does seem to think of metahumans as secondary citizens hwo need his protection, but he also caused their creation in the first place.
The bit with Eiling's anti-Flash weapon would've been more convincing if Barry hadn't just been standing there watching while Eiling deployed it. Barry could've had Ronnie several blocks away before the grenade even left Eiling's hand.
I'm glad they're going with a version where Ronnie and Stein can combine and separate at will. I'm really only familiar with Firestorm from his animation appearances, so it's been unclear to me whether his selves were able to separate or not, or if it's been done both ways. But this way means Victor Garber still has a presence beyond just his voice.
Speaking of disembodied voices, we now have confirmation that Grodd is telepathic. Not surprising, given how determined this show is to stay true to the comics. Plus Wells is extra-super-confirmed as Reverse Flash now, and he's working with Grodd. And we get more of his motivation now -- "I protect my own." He'll kill ordinary humans, but wants to protect metahumans. So he probably sincerely thinks of himself as being on the same side as the Flash.
Although in that case, I have to wonder why he participated in Stein's abduction. Maybe he wanted to force Stein and Ronnie into recombining? Pretty risky move, though. They were lucky to prevent Eiling from putting a bullet in Stein's head.
Meanwhile, Iris is finally starting to get a clue. They'd be better off bringing her into the loop before she becomes a problem. One way or the other, I hope they end this contrived "Iris is the only one who doesn't know" thing before the end of the season. (Well, Eddie doesn't know either, but he's not as close to Barry as Iris is.)
I'm glad they're going with a version where Ronnie and Stein can combine and separate at will. I'm really only familiar with Firestorm from his animation appearances, so it's been unclear to me whether his selves were able to separate or not, or if it's been done both ways. But this way means Victor Garber still has a presence beyond just his voice.
Speaking of disembodied voices, we now have confirmation that Grodd is telepathic. Not surprising, given how determined this show is to stay true to the comics. Plus Wells is extra-super-confirmed as Reverse Flash now, and he's working with Grodd. And we get more of his motivation now -- "I protect my own." He'll kill ordinary humans, but wants to protect metahumans. So he probably sincerely thinks of himself as being on the same side as the Flash.
Although in that case, I have to wonder why he participated in Stein's abduction. Maybe he wanted to force Stein and Ronnie into recombining? Pretty risky move, though. They were lucky to prevent Eiling from putting a bullet in Stein's head.
Meanwhile, Iris is finally starting to get a clue. They'd be better off bringing her into the loop before she becomes a problem. One way or the other, I hope they end this contrived "Iris is the only one who doesn't know" thing before the end of the season. (Well, Eddie doesn't know either, but he's not as close to Barry as Iris is.)
