In truth is there no beauty?

[Melakon]

You are right, but there WERE some extras in that episode--so the idea is to use them to maximum effect. using the limited "extras budget" to put them in the room when Miranda makes her statement is better than a few extras on the bridge or corridors.

The other problem is how much screen time the extras get. If you can only afford let's say 3 extras for an episode, as director you want to be careful where you place them. If you use 1 of those guys in Miranda's "thinking of murder" scene, he's now associated with her and Marvick. His face has been seen, so he can't be at a bridge console a few minutes later. There aren't any more scenes you can use that extra's character in, so he's released for the day. Now you've just got 2 guys left for the rest of the shoot.

 

[Doug Otte]

There's an episode with a title something like this...

To be clear, the actual title is "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"

But I find that title gets scrambled a lot.

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173629

 

[kirkfan]

The idea of a being so ugly that even getting a glimpse of it would damage your mind forever is silly though. Imagine that: Someone put a picture on an internet site and the whole planet turns into homicidal maniacs.

 

[Metryq]

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173629

Herbert!
(Sorry, if I didn't say it, someone else would have. )

The idea of a being so ugly that even getting a glimpse of it would damage your mind forever is silly though. Imagine that: Someone put a picture on an internet site and the whole planet turns into homicidal maniacs.

Then there's Monty Python's "World's Funniest Joke" skit.

The episode could be interpreted as having a Buddhist thread where desire and ignorance are the root of all suffering. Characters attempting to possess beauty end up suffering and losing their way. (Even Spock was so moved as to tell Dr. Jones, "I almost envy you your assignment.") Seek truth and beauty will follow.

 

[T'Girl]

Miranda is sitting at a table with Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty and MARVICK and says

"someone in this room is thinking of murder."

Ah, but what if Miranda had been referring to ... herself !!!!

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

Lots of strange choices made...

Miranda is sitting at a table with Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty and MARVICK and says "someone in this room is thinking of murder."

Hmm...???
They couldn't have had a few non-speaking extras beam aboard with Marvick and be in the room when she makes that statement so the audience could have some choices.

I watched this episode about a week ago, so my recall is fresh from that scene that the one thinking of murder was McCoy.

And why did they insist on pretending kollos was so UGLY he drove people insane. that's bizarre and non-sensical.
Why not say that the intense and psychedelic light that his race puts outs damages humans brains.

Oh wait, then they couldn't use the title they did and the episode story should always serve the title not the other way around.

Is There in Truth No Psychedelic Light? as a title would really have prematurely dated the episode!

other parts of the episode are pretty well done.

I especially liked Nimoy's emotional utterance of "So soon?" when asked to end the mind link.

 

[Doug Otte]

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173629

Herbert!
(Sorry, if I didn't say it, someone else would have. )

I'm no Herbert...we reach?

For some reason, I thought the title was a Shakespeare quote, so I was surprised when Googling that it was actually a poet I'd never heard of.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Then there's Monty Python's "World's Funniest Joke" skit.

That's a clever way of looking at it (no pun intended).

I think it's also important to keep in mind that, by human standards, Medusans have extrasensory perception. It seemed to me that Kollos might have been telepathically sensitive beyond his interactions with Spock and Miranda. If Medusans really are telepathic, then what a being sees when looking at a Medusan might depend upon the experience of the perception itself. In that case, it would not be apt to discuss the appearance of a Medusan as if it were a static or fixed thing.

 

[Maurice]

Think about how some epileptic seizures are triggered by flashing lights. Mayve something about the Medusan appearance triggers some sort of short-circuit in most humanoid brains and makes them go cuckoo.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

They couldn't have had a few non-speaking extras beam aboard with Marvick and be in the room when she makes that statement so the audience could have some choices.

Not when the budget was reduced every season while the cost of everything was going up. Even 2 no-dialogue extras probably were a few hundred dollars, and that's just their salary. There would also be associated wardrobe and makeup costs, so it's more than just the actors' union mandated salaries. And then the effects costs to beam aboard two more guys. We rarely saw unnecessary characters in the corridors the third year. It was a constant battle for directors, who always wanted extras so that sets wouldn't look empty.

You are right, but there WERE some extras in that episode--so the idea is to use them to maximum effect. using the limited "extras budget" to put them in the room when Miranda makes her statement is better than a few extras on the bridge or corridors.

Yeah, there were a bunch of extras. I would guess they're all wearing pre-existing costumes, but the show had a few civilian costumes on the rack as well by that time.

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x05hd/isthereintruthnobeautyhd0137.jpg

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x05hd/isthereintruthnobeautyhd0134.jpg

Edit: it looks like they're wearing old velour uniforms from S1 and S2.

 

[kirkfan]

Then there's Monty Python's "World's Funniest Joke" skit.

That's a clever way of looking at it (no pun intended).

I think it's also important to keep in mind that, by human standards, Medusans have extrasensory perception. It seemed to me that Kollos might have been telepathically sensitive beyond his interactions with Spock and Miranda. If Medusans really are telepathic, then what a being sees when looking at a Medusan might depend upon the experience of the perception itself. In that case, it would not be apt to discuss the appearance of a Medusan as if it were a static or fixed thing.

Well, given that only severely crazy people have even seen a Medusan. It's unlikely that they would even give a description of what they saw, that wasn't tainted by madness.

 

[Melakon]

I watched this episode about a week ago, so my recall is fresh from that scene that the one thinking of murder was McCoy.

McCoy: If you want my professional opinion Jim, I can only tell you one thing. If you look at Kollos without one of these protective visors, it will fk you up for life.

 

[kirkfan]

I watched this episode about a week ago, so my recall is fresh from that scene that the one thinking of murder was McCoy.

McCoy: If you want my professional opinion Jim, I can only tell you one thing. If you look at Kollos without one of these protective visors, it will fk you up for life.

I thought humans couldn't look at medusans EVEN with the protective visor.

 

[Melakon]

I thought humans couldn't look at medusans EVEN with the protective visor.

Dr. Jones disproves this by wearing the visor, but claims it's because of training or something, not mentioning THE BIG SECRET in the story.

 

[kirkfan]

I thought humans couldn't look at medusans EVEN with the protective visor.

Dr. Jones disproves this by wearing the visor, but claims it's because of training or something, not mentioning THE BIG SECRET in the story.

You mean that she's blind.

 

[Melakon]

Now you've just ruined it for anyone who hasn't seen it.

 

[Nebusj]

There's an episode with a title something like this...

To be clear, the actual title is "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"

But I find that title gets scrambled a lot.

My brain insists on rendering it as ``Is There No Truth In Beauty'', probably because that's almost as good a question.

 

[kirkfan]

There's an episode with a title something like this...

To be clear, the actual title is "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"

But I find that title gets scrambled a lot.

My brain insists on rendering it as ``Is There No Truth In Beauty'', probably because that's almost as good a question.

Is there no beauty in truth?

Is beauty in truth not there?

Is truth not there in beauty?

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

Is there beauty in no truth...

 

[Lance]

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x05hd/isthereintruthnobeautyhd0137.jpg

Is it just me, or does the guy on the left in science division blue bear some minor resemblance to Chris Pine?